我會加入討論主要是了板上其他板友,而不是你。 1. 先前主題：公開下位發明的上位技術資訊,申請範圍為下位發明內容 2. 102.a.1對應到的是102.b.1, 102.a.1意指"claimed invention"的新穎性要件,即判為先前技術的情況 102.b.1-a意指由inventor,joint inventor或another由發明人處取得"申請專利 之發明"所提供的揭露資訊(DISCLOSURES)可以排除, 即"哪些人(who)"所提供的揭露資訊(disclosure)可以排除 何況條文中的disclosure有說是any disclosure嗎? 法條上是 "A disclosure" not Any disclosure 102.b.1-b意指該揭露內容(the subject matter)由102.b.1-a明列的對象(那些人)所 提供的揭露資訊不落入先前技術的範圍 (identical subject matter approach) 3. 就一般claim的寫法,通常會把發明的上位概念寫入claim, 這種情況就會符合identical subject matter (claimed invention) 討論的情況是: 發明為A1, 公開A(未寫入claim)這種情況, 你這次說明和當初討論的主要內容不同 ※ 引述《deathcustom (about to be couple)》之銘言： : ※ 引述《VanDeLord (HelloWorld)》之銘言： : : US 102(b)(1) & (b)(2) : : Federal Register / Vol. 78, No. 31 / : : Thursday, February 14, 2013 / Rules and Regulations : : comment#30 p11065~p11066 : : http://www.uspto.gov/aia_implementation/FITF_Final_Guidelines_FR_2-14-2013.pdf : : Comment30: : : A number of comments, including comments from a number of universities and : : university groups, opposed the Office's interpretation of the subparagraph : : (B) provision of AIA 35 U.S.C. 102(b)(1) or 102(b)(2) : : (the subparagraph (B) provision), requiring that the subject matter : : previously publicly disclosed by the inventor be identical to the subject : : matter of the disclosure to be disqualified under the subparagraph (B) : : provision (identical subject matter approach). : : The comments opposing the Office's : : interpretation of the subparagraph (B) provision stated that: : : ...blablabla...etc. : 這裡討論的是35 U.S.C 102 (b) (1)(B)/(2)(B) : 但是你忽略了(A)??? : 當我們這一串討論串再討論優惠期對於進步性的適用時，我覺得應該一併考慮(A) : 102 (b)(1)(A)整個讀起來是 : A disclosure made 1 year or less before the effective filing date of a claimed : invention shall not be prior art to the claimed invention under subsection : (a)(1) if the disclosure was made by the inventor or joint inventor or by : another who obtained the subject matter disclosed directly or indirectly from : the inventor or a joint inventor : 在所請求發明的有效申請日以前的一年以內的揭露(對應於(a)(1)定義者)不應該做為先前 : 技術，如果所述揭露係由發明人、共同發明人或由前述兩者處直接或間接得知所請發明主 : 體的第三人所做的 : 發明人在年初的ISSCC研討會中揭露甲一 : 並且在年中申請相關的專利，獨立項請求甲(甲一與甲二的上位概念)，附屬項請求了 : 甲一與甲二 : 則在年初的研討會揭露"依據102(b)(1)(A)"會被排除做為"先前技術的適格性" : 當然如果有人在研討會後馬上去請了一個甲二的專利、或是去揭露一個甲二的變形 : 如果依據102(b)(1)(B)/(2)(B) : 則"除非甲二這個概念是發明人提出來的，並且發明人同時提出甲是上位概念"，否則甲二 : 這個概念對於發明人想請的甲(獨立項)就是先前技術，並且因為甲二也會一併使甲一GG : : Response: : : As discussed previously, the starting point for construction of a statute is : : the language of the statute itself. : : Subparagraph (B) of each of AIA 35 U.S.C. 102(b)(1) and 102(b)(2) provides : : that certain disclosures shall not be prior art if ''the subject matter : : disclosed had, before such disclosure [or before such subject matter was : : effectively filed under 102(a)(2)], been publicly disclosed by the inventor : : or a joint inventor or another who obtained the subject matter disclosed : : directly or indirectly from the inventor or a joint inventor.'' : : ...(略) : : The single instance of the phrase ''the subject matter'' in subparagraph (B) : : of each of AIA 35 U.S.C. 102(b)(1) and 102(b)(2) cannot reasonably be read as : : concurrently describing two discrete subject matters. Therefore, the single : : instance of the phrase ''the subject matter'' in subparagraph (B) of each of : : AIA 35 U.S.C. 102(b)(1) and 102(b)(2) cannot reasonably be interpreted as : : including variations within its ambit. : : AIA 35 U.S.C. 100 defines inventor and joint inventor or coinventor with : : respect to the individual or individuals ''who invented or discovered the : : subject matter of the invention, '' and defines "claimed invention'' as ''the : : subject matter defined by a claim in a patent or an application for a patent.'' : : USPTO 這部分的guildline已經出了,很詳細,應該很好找。 : : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : : 今日看到智財局布告欄內容,讚聲其舉,公布USPTO對 102(b)(1)和102(b)(2)的解釋給大家 : : 參考。 : : 研擬放寬專利優惠期事由及期間公眾諮詢會議 : : http://www.tipo.gov.tw/ct.asp?xItem=527343&ctNode=7127&mp=1 -- 樂創意 飆創新 玩專利 超過癮 --

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