我会加入讨论主要是了板上其他板友,而不是你。 1. 先前主题：公开下位发明的上位技术资讯,申请范围为下位发明内容 2. 102.a.1对应到的是102.b.1, 102.a.1意指"claimed invention"的新颖性要件,即判为先前技术的情况 102.b.1-a意指由inventor,joint inventor或another由发明人处取得"申请专利 之发明"所提供的揭露资讯(DISCLOSURES)可以排除, 即"哪些人(who)"所提供的揭露资讯(disclosure)可以排除 何况条文中的disclosure有说是any disclosure吗? 法条上是 "A disclosure" not Any disclosure 102.b.1-b意指该揭露内容(the subject matter)由102.b.1-a明列的对象(那些人)所 提供的揭露资讯不落入先前技术的范围 (identical subject matter approach) 3. 就一般claim的写法,通常会把发明的上位概念写入claim, 这种情况就会符合identical subject matter (claimed invention) 讨论的情况是: 发明为A1, 公开A(未写入claim)这种情况, 你这次说明和当初讨论的主要内容不同 ※ 引述《deathcustom (about to be couple)》之铭言： : ※ 引述《VanDeLord (HelloWorld)》之铭言： : : US 102(b)(1) & (b)(2) : : Federal Register / Vol. 78, No. 31 / : : Thursday, February 14, 2013 / Rules and Regulations : : comment#30 p11065~p11066 : : http://www.uspto.gov/aia_implementation/FITF_Final_Guidelines_FR_2-14-2013.pdf : : Comment30: : : A number of comments, including comments from a number of universities and : : university groups, opposed the Office's interpretation of the subparagraph : : (B) provision of AIA 35 U.S.C. 102(b)(1) or 102(b)(2) : : (the subparagraph (B) provision), requiring that the subject matter : : previously publicly disclosed by the inventor be identical to the subject : : matter of the disclosure to be disqualified under the subparagraph (B) : : provision (identical subject matter approach). : : The comments opposing the Office's : : interpretation of the subparagraph (B) provision stated that: : : ...blablabla...etc. : 这里讨论的是35 U.S.C 102 (b) (1)(B)/(2)(B) : 但是你忽略了(A)??? : 当我们这一串讨论串再讨论优惠期对於进步性的适用时，我觉得应该一并考虑(A) : 102 (b)(1)(A)整个读起来是 : A disclosure made 1 year or less before the effective filing date of a claimed : invention shall not be prior art to the claimed invention under subsection : (a)(1) if the disclosure was made by the inventor or joint inventor or by : another who obtained the subject matter disclosed directly or indirectly from : the inventor or a joint inventor : 在所请求发明的有效申请日以前的一年以内的揭露(对应於(a)(1)定义者)不应该做为先前 : 技术，如果所述揭露系由发明人、共同发明人或由前述两者处直接或间接得知所请发明主 : 体的第三人所做的 : 发明人在年初的ISSCC研讨会中揭露甲一 : 并且在年中申请相关的专利，独立项请求甲(甲一与甲二的上位概念)，附属项请求了 : 甲一与甲二 : 则在年初的研讨会揭露"依据102(b)(1)(A)"会被排除做为"先前技术的适格性" : 当然如果有人在研讨会後马上去请了一个甲二的专利、或是去揭露一个甲二的变形 : 如果依据102(b)(1)(B)/(2)(B) : 则"除非甲二这个概念是发明人提出来的，并且发明人同时提出甲是上位概念"，否则甲二 : 这个概念对於发明人想请的甲(独立项)就是先前技术，并且因为甲二也会一并使甲一GG : : Response: : : As discussed previously, the starting point for construction of a statute is : : the language of the statute itself. : : Subparagraph (B) of each of AIA 35 U.S.C. 102(b)(1) and 102(b)(2) provides : : that certain disclosures shall not be prior art if ''the subject matter : : disclosed had, before such disclosure [or before such subject matter was : : effectively filed under 102(a)(2)], been publicly disclosed by the inventor : : or a joint inventor or another who obtained the subject matter disclosed : : directly or indirectly from the inventor or a joint inventor.'' : : ...(略) : : The single instance of the phrase ''the subject matter'' in subparagraph (B) : : of each of AIA 35 U.S.C. 102(b)(1) and 102(b)(2) cannot reasonably be read as : : concurrently describing two discrete subject matters. Therefore, the single : : instance of the phrase ''the subject matter'' in subparagraph (B) of each of : : AIA 35 U.S.C. 102(b)(1) and 102(b)(2) cannot reasonably be interpreted as : : including variations within its ambit. : : AIA 35 U.S.C. 100 defines inventor and joint inventor or coinventor with : : respect to the individual or individuals ''who invented or discovered the : : subject matter of the invention, '' and defines "claimed invention'' as ''the : : subject matter defined by a claim in a patent or an application for a patent.'' : : USPTO 这部分的guildline已经出了,很详细,应该很好找。 : : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : : 今日看到智财局布告栏内容,赞声其举,公布USPTO对 102(b)(1)和102(b)(2)的解释给大家 : : 参考。 : : 研拟放宽专利优惠期事由及期间公众谘询会议 : : http://www.tipo.gov.tw/ct.asp?xItem=527343&ctNode=7127&mp=1 -- 乐创意 飙创新 玩专利 超过瘾 --

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