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标题UA CEO:未来美国只有两家全服务航空占领主导地
时间Sun Nov 23 16:44:39 2025
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/united-airlines-ceo-scott-kirb
y-takes-shot-at-american-airlines-predicts-only-two-industry-leaders-everyone-el
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ByShirin Gupta
Published on: Nov 22, 2025 08:48 am IST
United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby has directly questioned the lonf-term viability
of American Airlines and speaks of the future of the U.S. airline industry
United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby has made a striking forecast about the future
of the U.S. airline industry, and in doing so, directly questioned the long-term
viability of American Airlines.
Scott Kirby, chief executive officer at United Airlines Holdings Inc., Photogr
apher: Aaron Schwartz/CNP/Bloomberg(Bloomberg)
In his latest remarks, Kirby insisted that only two “brand-loyal” full-service
airlines will remain dominant, naming United and Delta, and implicitly excludin
g American.
“everyone else … is sort of competing for spill traffic.”
During a recent appearance on the “Airline Confidential” podcast, Kirby stated
that he expects the industry to consolidate into major, revenue-diverse, full-s
ervice carriers. According to him, “everyone else … is sort of competing for s
pill traffic.”
Kirby suggested that many other airlines, including American, are running unprof
itable parts of their network.
He argued that because American is not part of this “brand-loyalty” group, it
may soon be forced to cut unprofitable routes or face serious financial strain.
“I can find at every single one of them [airlines], a double-digit percentage o
f their route network that loses money,” he said during United's Q2 earnings ca
ll in July 2025, as reported by The Street.
Kirby has also taken aim at low-cost and ultra-low-cost airlines in his previous
public interviews. He has labelled the “budget airline model” as “dead,” cr
iticizing the hidden-fee structure and arguing that such carriers lack the brand
loyalty needed to survive long term.
United's aggressive business expansion
Kirby's remarks come as United aggressively started expanding at key hubs earlie
r this year, especially Chicago O'Hare (ORD). According to Aviation A27, United
is increasing its daily departures at ORD as it captures more local and connecti
ng market share.
He has reportedly told United pilots that American could eventually be squeezed
out of Chicago, suggesting what he views as a long-term strategic edge.
CEO Robert Isom vs CEO Scott Kirby
Kirby was asked to depart American in 2016 because of conflicts in the executive
suite. As president, Robert Isom replaced him. Kirby was then appointed preside
nt of United and later promoted to CEO, where he oversaw a change that has cause
d United to overtake American and challenge Delta as the industry leader.
After Kirby departed from American, he has repeatedly made comments about United
being a premier airline and saying American is not.
In Q1, American Airlines CEO Robert Isom finally replied to his comments and s
aid, “I worked for Scott and with Scott for a long time,” said Isom. “I’ve s
een him be right on a lot of stuff. He’s a brilliant man. I’ve seen him wrong
on a lot of stuff. In this case, he’s dead wrong.”
He further added, “Scott says this kind of stuff I’m sure, because he would li
ke nothing better than to not have American Airlines as a competitor. We’re a p
remium product competitor.”
In earlier CEO exchanges, Isom also accused United of painting an overly rosy pi
cture of its strength, while insisting American’s growth, particularly in its
Sunbelt hubs, is real and sustainable.
Kirby's argument is based on the idea of “brand-loyal airlines.” The carriers
that command repeat customers who prefer their brand over competitors are in his
stage. He believes that in a cost-pressured and competitive market, only airlin
es with a strong customer base and diversified revenue will survive and thrive.
UA CEO Scott Kirby表示
未来在美国将只有两家全服务航空公司处於市场主导地位
这两家航空公司就是UA跟DL
也对前东家AA的生存能力产生了质疑
并表示未来没有做到品牌忠诚度
以及在成本、联网以及转机流量无法做到顶尖的航空公司将会被淘汰,只能抢剩下的客人
(个人觉得 应该是指 以价格优先没有忠诚度的客人 )
也提到UA跟AA同一个枢纽芝加哥ORD机场,UA积极扩张巩固转机优势
但AA的执行长则反驳他的论点
以上是本则新闻大致上的内容
UA CEO 尻洗前东家
确实疫情之後 服务下降
藉由AI找寻一些资料
AA现在的两位大头都是US出身的
擅长於成本控管...
嗯...
让我想到了马会计 南廉航...
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1F:推 AuroraSky: 我一直不懂UA怎麽那麽好意思说自己比其他ULCC优秀,他11/23 17:08
2F:→ AuroraSky: 们BE是美国前五大业者中唯一不能带登机箱的,价钱也没 11/23 17:08
3F:→ AuroraSky: 比较便宜 11/23 17:08
4F:→ abian746: 可是我觉得A321neo 还是没有IFE, 就很夸张了 印象中 联11/23 17:17
5F:→ abian746: 合跟大魔王都有11/23 17:17
6F:推 AuroraSky: 你是说AA的321neo吗?AA的路线很明确,国内线除非是原11/23 17:35
7F:→ AuroraSky: 本用321T的,还有少数用787/777的高运量,其他一律旅 11/23 17:35
8F:→ AuroraSky: 客自己用机上网路串流。现在行动装置非常普及,没装I 11/23 17:35
9F:→ AuroraSky: FE的确卖相不好,但美国国内线会在意那个小萤幕的人应 11/23 17:35
10F:→ AuroraSky: 该是越来越少了11/23 17:36
11F:推 lc85301: R1-4 请修正一下11/23 17:40
12F:→ Assisi: 看不出 UA 能成为那唯二之一的理由 11/23 17:58
13F:推 AlainDion: 没有IFE没差,没网路才是落漆 11/23 18:15
14F:推 Mulsanne: UA真的鸟 11/23 19:03
15F:→ a0989876: 那两家是达美和AA11/23 19:43
16F:→ Metro123Star: 要带登机箱就不要买BE 真的不差那一点钱11/23 19:44
※ 编辑: abian746 (111.82.177.239 台湾), 11/23/2025 19:58:30
17F:推 IloveZ: 这类的豪语以前我也听过血红姐讲过。 11/23 21:48
18F:推 jin062900: hTC既视感 11/23 23:43
19F:推 Honorguard06: 达美:他们在吵什麽? 11/23 23:46
20F:→ coolfish1103: 美籍三家都是靠信用卡公司在赚钱的,五十步笑百步。 11/24 00:02
21F:推 USkitty: 有理想很好,只是现实上很难。大部分迷失的客人都是对自 11/24 05:19
22F:→ USkitty: 己钱包忠诚,才没有品牌迷思。美国国内线定位就是空中长 11/24 05:19
23F:→ USkitty: 途巴士,有没有萤幕不重要,大家都看自己的手机或平板内 11/24 05:19
24F:→ USkitty: 容。 11/24 05:19
25F:→ USkitty: 多打了迷失的三个字份,囧 11/24 05:20
26F:推 yallmustkidd: 国内线没有萤幕真的没差,那个破烂解析度和反应比 11/24 07:25
27F:→ yallmustkidd: 自己用行动装置差多了,现在人手一台MacBook or i 11/24 07:25
28F:→ yallmustkidd: Pad ,耳机用蓝芽无线,体验好太多,另外AA明年20 11/24 07:25
29F:→ yallmustkidd: 26/1开始跟进DL会提供免费wifi了 11/24 07:25
30F:推 KW96: 复兴也都曾有过雄心壮志了,UA老板有豪语很正常啊 11/24 07:26
31F:推 taxlaw1991: 虽然UA不怎样但AA近况确实更糟 11/24 09:04
32F:推 kingweirong: 但AA看起来更废耶 11/24 09:51
33F:→ iqeqicq: AA:我有Flag carrier的光环啊…… 11/24 10:25
34F:→ iqeqicq: 虽然美国并无官方定义的Flag carrier 11/24 10:25
35F:→ qwe753951: AA近几内的决策没一个是好的,只能当老三了 11/24 11:28
36F:推 NXT0614: AA确实在各项软硬体上都输给DL、UA,再加上AA最近一些策 11/24 11:44
37F:→ NXT0614: 略都失败,负债又高,就算不会倒但也确实落後DL UA一大截 11/24 11:44
39F:→ icehost: UA AA一样烂 DL还好一点 11/24 12:51
40F:→ asdf0923: 美籍就那样 要不是市场没开放 早就倒得一家不剩 11/24 13:03
41F:→ Metro123Star: 美国都是flag carrier 技术上来说 11/24 22:01
42F:→ Metro123Star: 名义上则是不存在 11/24 22:01
43F:→ AlainDion: AS:我们不载旗,我们载人头 11/25 00:35
44F:推 yuinghoooo: 以亚洲的标准来看美国一家全服务都没有吧(笑) 11/26 12:12
45F:→ Metro123Star: 美籍是全服务航空抢廉价航空市场推出类似产品 11/26 19:34
46F:→ Metro123Star: 只要不是买最便宜的票 都是全服务 11/26 19:34
47F:→ Metro123Star: 虽然国内线早就没有给吃的啦 11/26 19:34