※ [本文转录自 BaseballXXXX 看板 #1fV2SPa9 ] 作者: zxc906383 (无无) 看板: BaseballXXXX 标题: [分享] 美国队教头专访：原本Zack Wheeler也要打 时间: Fri Jan 30 11:35:51 2026 美国队教头Mark DeRosa接受Ken Rosenthal专访 https://i.imgur.com/Xu4Gf9F.jpeg 里面提到整个组队过程和考量 像是会选书僮是因为上次被老墨打爆的经验XD 发现需要一位紧急长中继 也透露Zack Wheeler原本已经答应会打，可惜受伤QQ 另外工具人也考虑过Bellinger https://reurl.cc/R9MYyg What is the difference between the way you’ve constructed the roster for this t eam as opposed to how you did it in 2023? 这次在组建名单时，和2023年相比，有什麽不同？ The team we’ve been able to build, it’s a testament to the players wanting to do it. I’ve got to come out and say that. 我们能够组出现在这支球队，完全是因为球员们「真的想来打」，这一点我一定要先说清楚 This started back probably in spring training of last year. Aaron (Judge) basica lly let it be known to Andy Pettitte that he was interested in doing it. I jumpe d on it right away and called Aaron. He was like, I’m 100 percent in. 这件事大概从去年春训就开始了，Aaron（Judge）基本上先让Andy Pettitte知道他有兴趣 参加，我马上就抓住机会打给Aaron，他直接跟我说：「我百分之百愿意」 Obviously, you’ve got to hope they stay healthy the entire season and everythin g goes according to plan. 当然你一定得祈祷他们整个赛季都保持健康、事情照计画走 But the biggest home runs happened early, with Aaron coming on board and wanting to lead and be a captain for the team. And then, one of the greatest calls ever was Paul Skenes. 但最大的全垒打其实很早就出现了，Aaron愿意加入，还想扛起领袖、队长的角色，接着另 一通史上最棒的电话之一，就是打给Paul Skenes I wanted to see where he was at. I knew with the military background that it wou ld play on his heart. 我想确认他的想法，也知道他有军人背景，这件事一定会打动他的内心 I certainly understand guys are at different stages of their careers. They value certain things differently. 我完全理解，每个人职涯阶段不同，在意的事情也不一样 I called him very early on in the season. I had a whole pitch planned. He kind o f cut me off. 我在赛季很早的时候就打给他，原本准备好一整套说词，结果他直接打断我 He goes, “DeRo, you don’t have to make your pitch, I am 100 percent in. I want to do this for every serviceman and servicewoman out there. It means a lot to m e to put USA across my chest.” 他说：「DeRo，你不用说服我，我百分之百愿意，我想为所有正在服役的军人而打，能把US A穿在胸前，对我意义重大」 When we had Aaron Judge from a position-player standpoint and Paul Skenes from a pitching standpoint, the two pillars were in place to build off. 当我们在野手端有Aaron Judge、投手端有Paul Skenes，这两根支柱就已经立好了，接下来 就是往上搭建 Did those guys help you recruit? 这些球员有帮忙你招募其他人吗？ I knew how I wanted to build it. Certainly, I asked a bunch of people. 我其实很清楚自己想怎麽组队，当然也询问了很多人的意见 I wanted (pitching coach) Andy Pettitte to feel comfortable with the pitching st aff. And (general manager) Mike Hill has been great in helping me. 我希望投手教练Andy Pettitte能对投手群感到安心，总管Mike Hill也给了我很大的帮助 Obviously, (coaches) Michael Young, Brian McCann, we’ve all put our heads toget her. 当然像Michael Young、Brian McCann这些教练，我们都一起集思广益 Pat O’Shea was the analytics guy from the Dodgers last time in 2023. And Eric N ehs (a researcher from MLB Network), I’ve brought him on board. 2023年时，道奇的分析人员Pat O’Shea有参与；这次我也把MLB Network的研究员Eric Neh s 拉进团队 I value their opinions. But I kind of knew how I wanted to go about building thi s out based on 2023. 我很重视他们的意见，但其实根据2023的经验，我大致已经知道这次该怎麽组 What did you learn in ’23 that informed you in putting together this roster? 你从2023年学到什麽，影响了这次的名单建构？ Certainly, you were going to have superstars at every position. That goes withou t saying. 当然，每个位置都会有超级球星，这是理所当然的 But I also think you have to build a team. Guys have to understand roles, lineup construction… 但我也认为你必须「组一支球队」，球员要清楚自己的角色、打线安排、谁先发、谁接手、 牛棚谁能投一又三分之一局、谁负责衔接下一棒 I felt like in ’23 it was a lot of who was going to say “yes,” instead of pin pointing how we build these teams… 我觉得2023年比较像是「谁愿意点头就找谁」，而不是精准规划要怎麽组一支让其他国家难 以对付的球队 So in ’23, you were just trying to get a team together? 所以2023年，你比较像是在把人凑齐？ I got in late. (GM) Tony Reagins did a helluva job recruiting Mike Trout, Arenad o. 我加入得比较晚，总管 Tony Reagins 在招募 Mike Trout、Arenado 方面做得非常出色 The team was pretty much built by the time I got named manager (on Aug. 19). 等我在 8 月 19 日被任命为总教练时，球队几乎已经组好了 I definitely put my two cents in. Kyle Schwarber, Kyle Tucker, those were guys I wanted to add to give the lineup some left-handed firepower. 当时我确实也提供了自己的意见，我想加进 Kyle Schwarber、Kyle Tucker，为打线增加一 些左打火力 But the pitching staff was pretty much in place. We tried to go with the team th at we had. 但投手群基本上已经就位，我们只能用现有的球队来应战 This time, I sometimes pinch myself. 这一次，我有时候都会捏自己一下，确认这一切是真的 As a kid, I used to sit there and think if I ever got an opportunity to build a dream team… 小时候我常幻想，如果有一天能打造一支梦幻队伍，会长什麽样子 Right-left-right-left all the way down with lineup construction. Value defense. Value velocity on the mound. 打线左右交错、重视防守、投手丘上重视球速 But the overall thing — and Andy Pettitte kept coming back to this — we want g uys who want to be in the room… 但最重要的一点，也是Andy Pettitte一直强调的，就是我们要的是「真的想待在这个休息 室里的人」 It throws their spring training into flux, just the way the schedule is laid out . You have to want to be a part of it. 以赛程的安排来看，这件事一定会打乱球员的春训节奏，所以你必须是真心想参与其中 The guys have been fantastic about that. 而这些球员在这方面的态度都非常棒 I also feel there was such a groundswell after ’23, some of the moments we were able to have, good and bad… 我也觉得2023年之後出现了一股强大的共鸣，无论是好的还是坏的时刻 From Trea Turner’s grand slam (against Venezuela in the quarterfinals) to the T rout-Ohtani matchup (in the final). 从Trea Turner在八强赛对委内瑞拉的满贯炮，到决赛的Trout对决大谷翔平。 The entire tournament just grabbed this tidal wave of emotion with people. 整个赛事卷起了一股情绪的巨大浪潮 I think a lot of the players saw it and wanted to be a part of it. 我想很多球员看到了这一切，也因此想要成为其中的一员 Makeup was part of the equation in your selections? 你在选人时，也把球员性格、气质（团队化学）纳入考量吗？ One hundred percent. That’s not (to criticize) anything about the ’23 guys. 百分之百有，但这并不是在批评2023年的那些球员 You could have gone a myriad of ways with it. 其实有很多种不同的组队方式。 I just felt like starting with Aaron Judge, how do we complement him in the line up? 我只是觉得，既然以Aaron Judge为核心，那打线该如何围绕他来配置？ Obviously, Bobby Witt at shortstop. Obviously, (Alex) Bregman at third base… 很明显地，游击是Bobby Witt，三垒是Alex Bregman (Bryce) Harper at first, Schwarber. 一垒是Bryce Harper，再加上Schwarber These are guys, I feel, who are going to feed off each other. 我觉得这些球员彼此之间会互相激励 And ultimately, playing (the semifinals and final) in Miami (if Team USA qualifi es), defense is a premium. 而且如果美国队晋级，在迈阿密打准决赛与决赛，防守会变得极为重要 There are not a ton of runs scored, just because it’s so early in the season. 由於赛季才刚开始，得分通常不会很多 How do we grind out runs? How do we play great defense without putting a bunch o f guys out of position? 那我们该怎麽把分数磨出来？又如何在不让球员勉强守不熟位置的情况下打出高品质防守？ It all played into it. 这些全部都纳入了考量 I remember, last time, the restrictions the major-league teams placed on their p itchers… How do you handle that this time? 我记得上一次，大联盟球队对投手使用了许多限制，这让你非常困扰，这次你要怎麽应对？ It’s still going to be there. That’s why I tried to build it out a little diff erently, so guys had roles. 这些限制依然存在。这也是为什麽我这次稍微用不同的方式来组建投手群，让每个人都有明 确的角色 It’s also why we added Clayton Kershaw. 这也是我们把 Clayton Kershaw 加入球队的原因 You go back to the Mexico game, we got caught. There was a scenario where Brady Singer had to cover some innings for us even though it wasn’t optimal for him, because we weren’t going to be able to cover the next day. 回顾对墨西哥的比赛，我们真的被卡住了，当时出现一种情况，Brady Singer被迫多投一些 局数，即使对他来说并不理想，不然隔天比赛我们将没有足够投手应战 (Singer threw 53 pitches in two innings and allowed four runs in Team USA’s 11- 5 defeat.) （Singer两局投了 53 球，失掉 4 分，最终美国队以 11-5 败给墨西哥） That game scared me more than anything into building the pitching staff this tim e. We got straight-up caught. 那场比赛让我对这次组建投手群比任何事情都更加谨慎，那次我们真的完全被卡住了 If Lance Lynn doesn’t go 65 pitches against Canada the next day … if you think back to the Mexico game, Devin Williams came in for one pitch. I just assumed h e could go back out for the ninth, and we wouldn’t have to use Pressly, and we could bump him to the next day. 如果隔天 Lance Lynn 对加拿大没投到 65 球……回想墨西哥那场比赛，Devin Williams 上场只投了一球，我原本以为他可以再回去投第九局，这样我们就不用用 Pressly，也可以 把 Pressly 排到隔天使用 And then we had to use Pressly, so we had only so many relievers to back Lance L ynn up. 结果我们还是得用 Pressly，因此能支援 Lance Lynn 的中继投手数量有限 (Lynn worked five innings and Miles Mikolas two against Canada before the mercy rule was invoked in the seventh inning with Team USA leading, 12-1.) （Lynn 对加拿大投了五局，Miles Mikolas 投了两局，之後比赛在七局启动「提前扣倒规 则」（mercyrule），美国队当时以 12-1 领先。） So it was like, wow, we need some kind of long man in case that scenario present s itself. 所以我心里想，哇，我们需要一位「长中继投手」以防类似情况再次发生。 The only problem is, who’s going to do that, getting ready for a season with th e chance they don’t pitch? 唯一的问题是，谁愿意担这个角色？要准备整个赛季的时候，却可能完全没有上场机会 There really isn’t a current player that a team was going to allow (a scenario) where we might get him an inning, we might get him four, we might not get him a ny at all. 其实目前没有任何球员的球队会允许这种情况：可能投一局、可能投四局，也可能完全不上 场 My brain just kept going, how can we have somebody who can give us 60 pitches if it hit the fan? 我脑中一直想，如果事情失控，我们要怎麽找到一个能投 60 球的人？ That’s how I presented the opportunity to Clayton, and he jumped on it. 这就是我怎麽把这个机会提出给 Clayton 的，他立刻答应了 So, including him wasn’t simply ceremonial? 所以把他放进名单，不只是象徵性的？ I think it’s twofold… 我觉得有两层意义 The starting pitchers, the entire pitching staff, wanted to be around him. 所有先发投手、整个投手群都想和他在同一个环境 It just made total sense for coverage for us to not have to burn an entire bullp en to get through a game. 而从投手调度保险来看，这样安排完全合理，这样就不用烧牛棚才能完成一场比赛 These guys are not pitching back-to-back days at that (point of the spring). The re’s no way we could pull it off. 毕竟在春训那个时期，这些投手不可能连续两天上场 Hopefully that doesn’t happen, and our starters go out there and are fire for 6 0-65 pitches. 当然希望需要使用紧急长中继这事不会发生 我们的先发投手能正常投吃完60-65 球 But if the situation presented itself, I wanted to have an option to reset our p en. 但如果真的发生状况，我希望能有选项来重新安排牛棚 What about Skenes and Skubal? How are you going to use them? 那Skenes和Skubal 呢？你打算怎麽用他们？ We’re going to start ’em. 我们会让他们先发 One thing Paul Skenes said when I talked to him in April was that he wanted to b e surrounded by guys he could learn from as well. He was big about that. 我四月和Paul Skenes 聊天时，他说过一件事：他希望身边有能让他学习进步的球员，他非 常重视这点 He wanted to be around guys he thought could help him get better. 他希望和那些他认为能帮助他变得更好的球员待在一起 I called (Zack) Wheeler. Wheeler was in until he went down (in August when he un derwent surgery to remove a blood clot in his right shoulder). 我也打给了 Zack Wheeler，他原本已经答应会打，直到八月因为右肩血栓手术而退出 I obviously called Tarik. 我当然也打给 Tarik（Skubal） With Tarik, I completely understand the situation he’s in (as a potential free agent next offseason). We just slow-played it throughout the year. 对於Tarik，我完全理解他的处境（下个休赛季可能成为自由球员），所以整年我们都采取 慢慢来的策略 I told him, I’m trying to build a Dream Team. And if I’m building the best rot ation the game has to offer, you’re certainly at the top of it. 我告诉他：「我正在打造一支梦幻队，而如果我要组建棒球史上最强的先发轮值，那你绝对 里面的头号先发」 And until I hear you tell me no, I’ll just circle back every two months and see where you’re at. Andy Pettitte was doing the same. 在你亲口拒绝之前，我会每两个月再联络一次看看你的意愿，Andy Pettitte 也采取同样做 法 We left these guys alone the entire year, but every once in a while, I would che ck in with them. 我们整年都给这些球员空间，但偶尔我会跟他们确认状况 He kept saying, don’t give up on me, I really want to do it. 他一直说：「别放弃我，我真的很想参加」 I talked to (Detroit Tigers manager) A.J. Hinch about it. A.J. felt good about i t. Tarik felt good about it. 我也和老虎队总教练 A.J. Hinch 谈过这件事，A.J. 觉得可行，Tarik 也觉得可以 When I hung up the phone with him, I was like, oh my God, I can’t believe he’s going to do it. We are super-excited to have him. 挂掉电话後，我心里想：「天啊，我不敢相信他真的会来，我们非常兴奋能有他加入」 How many spots do you still need to fill? 你现在还需要补几个球员？ One or two. One will be a position player. One will probably be a starter. The i nsurance component and the team signing off on it all play massive parts in it. 大约一到两个，一个会是野手，另一个可能是先发投手，保险以及球队的批准在这其中扮演 了很重要的角色 The last position spot, what do you want, someone who is versatile? 最後那个野手名额，你希望找一个多守位的吗？ Yeah. We’re going to look at it. I had my eye on (Cody) Bellinger. I thought Be llinger would serve a perfect purpose for it. 对，我们会去考虑，我原本考虑 Cody Bellinger，我觉得他会非常适合这个角色 But him signing with the Yankees and going through everything, he has decided no t to do it. And I completely understand that. So, someone in that vein. 但他和洋基签约後，经过一番考量後，他决定不参加，我完全理解，所以我们继续会找类似 的球员 There aren’t many guys like Bellinger. 像Bellinger 这种球员并不多 That’s the problem. So, do we go with another first baseman? Do we go with anot her outfielder? Do we go with a third catcher so we can use Cal Raleigh and Will Smith as potential pinch-hitters late if they’re not starting that day? 这就是问题所在，我们要再找一个一垒手吗？再找一个外野手吗？还是找第三个捕手，这样 可以在Cal Raleigh 和 Will Smith 当天没先发时，让他们作为代打使用？ I just felt like in ’23, every time I looked at the bench, it was like, where’ s the move if one needs to be made? There just wasn’t. 我只是觉得2023 年，每次看替补席时，心里想：「如果需要调整，我们要怎麽动？」但其 实根本没办法 Bobby Witt Jr. couldn’t get on the field the last time. You wanted to play him, but couldn’t find a spot. Now he’s at the center of it all. Bobby Witt Jr上一次根本没有上场机会，你想让他打球，但找不到位置，现在他已经成为 球队的核心 In ’23, that was kind of a Christian Laettner-type deal. (Laettner was the only collegian and last man on the 1992 U.S. Olympic men’s basketball team.) Everyo ne knew he was going to be a superstar. He wanted to be around those guys, see w hat their processes were like. Then you leave the field every day going, oh my G od, this kid is so talented, how do we find a way to get him on the field? 在2023 年，这有点像Christian Laettner 的情况（Laettner 是 1992 年美国奥运男篮队 唯一的大学生，也是最後一个被选上的队员） 大家都知道他将会成为超级巨星，他想待在那些球员身边，看看他们的训练方式，然後你每 天离开球场时，心里都想：「天啊，这小子太有天赋了，我们怎麽让他上场？」 Trea (Turner) was hitting all those homers. We didn’t want to play Bobby out of position at second base. Trea (Turner) 打了那麽多全垒打，我们不想让 Bobby 去守他在不熟悉的二垒 It’s funny, when I walked up to Bobby in spring training this year. I did the R oyals (for MLB Network). I said, “Obviously, I’m going to want you to play sho rtstop for Team USA.” He said, “I’m starting, right?’” I said, “Yeah, I th ink you’re going to start.” 有趣的是，今年春训时，我跟Bobby说：「很明显，我希望你在美国队守游击」他问：「我 会先发吧？」我回答：「对，我觉得你会先发」 Anyone you wanted to include but couldn’t? 有没有你想选，却选不了的人？ I wish the roster was 40 guys deep. There are guys deserving of being on this te am that won’t be. And it kills me. 我真希望名单可以有 40 人，明明有些球员值得入选，但却进不了，这让我很痛心 Who in particular? 特别是谁呢？ J.T. Realmuto certainly comes to mind. The way the rules are, it just doesn’t w arrant having three catchers. 当然有J.T. Realmuto 但我们没必要带三个捕手 Trea Turner is another one. Bobby and Gunnar (Henderson) are probably going to p lay short. 另一个是Trea Turner Bobby 和 Gunnar (Henderson) 会分担游击 Trea, he carried our offense the last time. I just feel like it’s Bobby’s time . Gunnar gives us a different look from the left side. Trea上一次带动了我们的进攻，但我觉得现在该是Bobby的时代了，Gunnar则给我们左打的 选择 I wanted to have some youthful energy in there mixed with some veterans and try to get after it for 2 1/2 weeks. 我希望在阵容中加入一些年轻活力，搭配几位资深球员，在这两周半的赛程中全力拼战 Overall, you’re ready to go? 整体来说，你准备好了吗？ I couldn’t be more jacked up for it. 我感到无比兴奋 --

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