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Firefox: Adblock Plus lost millions of users in the past year https://www.ghacks.net/2017/09/29/firefox-adblock-plus-lost-millions-of-users-in-the-past-year/ Adblock Plus is the most popular content blocking add-on for the Mozilla Firefox web browser. In fact, it is the most popular add-on for Firefox by a large margin. Its more than 14 million users beat second placed uBlock Origin by more than 10 million users right now. But things are not super great if you take a look at how Adblock Plus' user count developed over the past year. A quick check reveals that the add-ons daily average user count and daily downloads are down. An average of 21.4 million users used Adblock Plus daily on September 29th, 2016. Additionally, the add-on was downloaded 181,000 times on that day alone. One year later, daily users are at 15.4 million on September 27th, 2017, and daily downloads at 89,000. That is a decrease of about six million users in a year's time, and a drop in daily downloads by 92,000 when compared to the stats a year ago. https://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/adblock-plus-usage-stats.png
One could argue that Firefox usage may be down as well, and that the drop in daily users and downloads is caused by that more than anything else. But this would mean that other add-ons should see similar drops in usage. If you take a look at the uBlock Origin statistics, the second most popular add-on on Mozilla AMO right now, and a content blocker as well, you will notice that the add-ons stats are up. On September 29th, 2016, uBlock Origin had about 1.5 million daily users, and about 22,000 daily downloads. One year later, on September 27th, 2017, those figures rose to 4.1 million daily users and 55,000 daily downloads. The add-on managed to more than double its user base and daily downloads in a year's time. https://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ublock-origin-stats.png
To be fair, uBlock Origin's daily downloads jumped shortly after September 29th, and have actually dropped heavily at the end of June and recovered only recently. The huge uptick of downloads at the end of August seems to correlate with the release of the WebExtensions versions of uBlock Origin. Similarly, Adblock Plus managed to increase its daily downloads at around the same time, but both download counts did fall to previous levels shortly thereafter. To come back to the initial question: why did Adblock Plus's daily user number drop by several million users while similar extensions did not see a drop but an increase instead? Lets take a look at possible explanations: Adblock Plus's Acceptable Ads program might be a reason. While it is possible to disable the program in Adblock Plus, some users may have had troubles doing so, or made the decision to move to another content blocker instead. Rise in popularity of uBlock Origin which may have had an impact on Adblock Plus's performance. Interest in Adblock Plus dropped slightly according to Google Trends, but uBlock Origin interest increased only slightly however. It is likely that uBlock Origin gained users who migrated from Adblock Plus to the new extension, but this does not explain what the remaining millions of users did. Could it be a change in reporting on Mozilla AMO? 备注: AdBlock Plus使用数从去年九月底的21.4M → 15.4M, 而uBlock Origin 1.5M → 4.1M 可能原因: 1. ABP的广告允许计画 2.因为uBlock Origin支援了WebExtension --



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1F:→ cys070: 用了UBO就不想回去用ABP 10/05 15:59
2F:→ cys070: UBO支援WE是近期的事,应该不是主要原因 10/05 16:03
3F:→ hdd60311: ABP被诟病肥大拖累性能已经很久了但是开发方似乎都没有 10/05 16:11
4F:→ hdd60311: 想要改善? 10/05 16:11
5F:→ abc0922001: ublock origin就是好用,私心希望使用者不要太多 10/05 16:11
6F:→ abc0922001: 棒打出头鸟 10/05 16:11
7F:推 toploader: 我是因为效能的原因 10/05 16:24
8F:推 abc0922001: 我朋友装了ABP,还特别装去Youtube广告的扩充套件 10/05 16:25
9F:→ abc0922001: 就帮他换成uBlock Origin了 10/05 16:25
10F:推 APM99: 装到假的ABP吧 一个月前还用ABP的时候没看过youtube广告 10/05 16:37
11F:推 abc0922001: 应该吧,我好几年没用ABP了 10/05 16:39
12F:推 scorpioz: 我当初装ABP看不到水管广告的啊,不过现在也换UBO了,差 10/05 16:45
13F:→ scorpioz: 太多 10/05 16:45
14F:推 Seventhsky: UBO人会增加很正常啊 更新很勤也很重视使用者的意见 10/05 17:22
15F:推 twtwch: 一开始也是用ADB,之後换UBO用过就回不去 10/05 17:26
16F:→ cys070: UBO作者其实满有个性的开发者,之前就是不想被人绑手绑脚 10/05 17:35
17F:→ cys070: 所以才又开一个UBO专案 10/05 17:36
18F:→ Seventhsky: 事实证明他是对的 重开UBO後 UB就完全被那些人摆烂了 10/05 17:40
19F:→ Seventhsky: 可见那些人抢UB主导权时根本就是另有目的 10/05 17:40
20F:→ hdd60311: 听说ABP的WE版功能大幅弱化,看来真的要被UBO完全打趴惹 10/05 17:41
21F:→ hijacker: 比较好奇UBO靠什麽赚钱 还是只是作者佛心奉献? 10/05 17:50
22F:推 mayuyu: 作者不接受斗内 也不塞广告 更新还这麽勤快 10/05 18:40
23F:→ mayuyu: 一做还做这麽多久 实在太不可思议了 10/05 18:40
24F:推 Bellkna: 推ubo好用XD 10/05 18:48
25F:推 idlewolf: ABP变这麽废了?以前试装UBO後感觉不错就延用了一直没换 10/05 19:03
26F:→ idlewolf: 不过除了省些效能外我是没感觉到其他好处XD 10/05 19:04
27F:推 APM99: ABP换UBO无感很正常 因为本来就无感 10/05 19:07
28F:→ APM99: UBo能兴起跟作者还有整个社群有关吧 10/05 19:09
29F:推 s816266: UBO确实不错用,不过有个问题让我还没正式改用UBO 10/05 19:10
30F:→ s816266: 就是有些碍眼广告不会立刻消失,要等一会才消失 10/05 19:12
31F:推 richard1003: ABP最近都挡不了广告,已换 10/05 19:12
32F:→ s816266: 可能是因为规则载入的较慢的关系才这样,能解决吗? 10/05 19:13
33F:→ sate5232: 虽然现在用UBO,但我觉得那界面对使用者不太友善 10/05 19:29
34F:推 abc0922001: UBO不是直接阻挡网路载入吗,怎麽会先载入才去除 10/05 19:30
35F:→ sate5232: https://i.imgur.com/lrTA845.png 这红色绿色灰色加号减 10/05 19:31
36F:→ sate5232: 号我到现在都不知道干麻的 10/05 19:31
37F:→ abc0922001: 其实我觉得还好,你安装完就可以直接用了,不用管他 10/05 19:31
38F:→ sate5232: 是呀,但就觉得功能放在那却一直不知道干麻的感觉很怪 10/05 19:32
39F:→ sate5232: 然後有两列,前面那列和後面那列有啥不同也不知道 10/05 19:32
40F:推 abc0922001: 前面是全域规则,後面是区域规则,红色是阻挡 10/05 19:34
41F:推 cys070: 那个网路有教学,进阶阻挡用法 10/05 19:35
42F:→ abc0922001: 灰色应该是该网域某些会阻挡某些不会 10/05 19:35
43F:→ cys070: 让使用者可以针对特定网站自订,不用都靠订阅规则 10/05 19:37
44F:推 sate5232: 原来如此,我是都只用到元素选择器 10/05 19:38
45F:推 abc0922001: 如果用元素选择器挡了某些元素,该网域会不会变灰色的 10/05 19:40
46F:→ s816266: 广告会过一阵子才消失,让我想到之前ABP也有延迟启动的关 10/05 20:06
47F:→ s816266: 系,所以广告也是会过一阵子才消失,想说有没有办法调整 10/05 20:07
48F:→ s816266: 参数之类的方式,解决广告不会立刻被阻挡的情形 10/05 20:09
49F:→ kuro: https://goo.gl/bWeFVb 动态过滤快速指南 (简字) 10/05 20:11
50F:推 mayuyu: 灰色的称做noop 也就是动态规则不起作用 10/05 20:11
51F:→ mayuyu: 依照静态规则(你建立的或者订阅的第三方规则)来过滤 10/05 20:12
52F:→ mayuyu: UBO官方有使用说明 也有简中版 10/05 20:12
53F:→ mayuyu: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki 10/05 20:12
54F:→ mayuyu: 动态规则很强大 学起来受用无穷 10/05 20:13
55F:→ hdd60311: UBO本来就是主打效能和占用赢ABP吧,这方面有感不就够了 10/05 20:19
56F:→ Risedo: 目前是用adblock第一次听到UBO 不知道差别如何 10/05 20:45
57F:→ Risedo: ubo现在好像也能防 挖矿病毒似的 10/05 20:46
58F:推 jtmh: 太久没跟相关消息,一样也没听过UBO... 10/05 21:46
59F:推 abccbaandy: 防挖矿ABP也能阿...同楼上+1 好久没跟这块了 10/05 21:51
60F:推 APM99: 没听过很正常啊 基本上猫熊57没有ABP才会听说UBo... 10/05 21:57
61F:推 tzback: 虽然改用uBO多年 仍觉得ABP的Element Hiding Helper最好用 10/05 22:08
62F:推 olduck: 个人用ubo也是部份广告会闪出一下才挡,这部份adb,adguard 10/05 23:30
63F:→ olduck: 都没有,不过还是用ubo,电脑比较旧adb拖的太明显 10/05 23:31
64F:→ s816266: 不过ABP的开发版有支援57版的,至於广告闪一下的问题想说 10/06 07:30
65F:→ s816266: 能不能回报作者看看解决一下,不过不通英文是问题 10/06 07:32
66F:推 bunjie: 感谢提供资讯 马上换来试试看 10/06 09:51
67F:推 rgbff: ABP的Element Hiding Helper好用+1,也是因为这样没换UBO 10/06 13:13
68F:推 abc0922001: 请问那个Element Hiding Helper是做什麽用的阿? 10/06 13:24
69F:→ Seventhsky: 元素隐藏 给你自己选择隐藏网页的哪个部分 10/06 13:29
70F:→ t7yang: 怎麽可能没有 10/06 13:39
71F:→ abc0922001: UBO你网页上点右键就有阻挡元素,那个不就是了吗 10/06 13:49
72F:→ tzback: Element Hiding Helper可以用键盘控制阻挡元素范围 10/06 13:53
73F:推 popbitch: 有些网页侦测到挡广告就不给看有解吗? 10/06 18:04
74F:→ popbitch: 以前anti-adblock killer有用,最近都不行了 10/06 18:05
75F:推 rayx000: Anti-Adblock Killer Continued可以用 缺点是油猴不支源 10/06 18:20
76F:→ rayx000: ABP的Element Hiding Helper真的好用 UBO的元素隐藏 10/06 18:22
77F:→ rayx000: 就如同上面所提 会闪一下才会消失 有办法解决吗 10/06 18:22
78F:推 popbitch: 我是用Tampermonkey,所以可以用 10/06 18:26
79F:→ jhtsai0825: 有 uBlock Protector 可以用 10/06 23:18
80F:推 johnny9667: 请问我改用ubo 可是还是会出现这个 有什麽办法吗? 10/07 13:01
81F:→ johnny9667: https://i.imgur.com/g3Oxfv3.png 10/07 13:02
82F:→ kuro: 楼上有网址测试吗? 10/07 13:13
83F:推 johnny9667: 我站内信你 10/07 13:17
84F:→ johnny9667: 他不只会跳出这个 过几秒钟还会自动转址到别的网页 10/07 13:32
85F:→ johnny9667: 挡不太住 10/07 13:32
86F:→ johnny9667: 感谢kuro大大 10/07 13:46
87F:→ kuro: 好说好说 :) 10/07 13:48
88F:推 s816266: 我有回报UBO会有广告闪一下才消失的问题,作者回覆我一篇 10/07 19:45
89F:→ s816266: 连结,https://goo.gl/xTU3V9 ,内容不太了解,谁能解释 10/07 19:46
90F:→ s816266: 一下吗?能完全解决这问题的话,就能完全改用UBO了 10/07 19:48
Network filters: 在要求送出前过滤掉 Hosts file: (uB0特有) 同上 Cosmetic filters: 细分成 1.Specific cosmetic filters-在渲染前过滤掉 2.Generic cosmetic filters-渲染後过滤 你看到的一闪 ABP跟uB0皆会发生 3.Cached generic cosmetic filters(uB0特有)-第2点第一次发生後快取 往後便 会渲染前过滤
91F:推 richjf: 装最新版ubo後imgur图会显示不了 10/09 03:04
92F:推 olduck: 原来过滤规则是这样,不过如果真的很讨广告先出来一下可以 10/10 17:07
93F:→ olduck: 用元素选择加到自订过滤,有些常上的网站有横幅栏位没第一 10/10 17:08
94F:→ olduck: 时间拦下会先占用栏位才消失,页面重新排版觉得眼睛会花 10/10 17:09
95F:→ olduck: 自订的过滤规则就会直接挡不给机会出现(个人使用经验) 10/10 17:11
96F:推 s816266: 谢谢kaoh大的解释,不过olddulk用元素选择确实之前闪一下 10/12 07:26
97F:→ s816266: 第一时间挡下来,还是会闪一下 10/12 07:30
98F:→ s816266: olddulk大的作法,在中央社网站会行不通,就算用元素选择 10/12 07:40
99F:→ s816266: 还是会出现广告闪一下的状况 10/12 07:41
100F:→ kaoh08: 效能越好看到闪一下的机会越高 10/12 17:02
101F:→ kaoh08: 只要不是阻挡要求的方式都免不了广告被下载 10/12 17:02
102F:→ kaoh08: 这点ADP 跟ub0都一样 就看你心理觉得舒不舒服 10/12 17:04
103F:推 micbrimac: 我就是消失的那个 ADP现在完全不能挡youtube 超烂的 10/23 18:49
※ 编辑: kaoh08 (216.218.222.12), 11/29/2017 09:35:35







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