：: 1- 根据您的一些描述(牧养黎巴嫩移民,远东正教,近东正教..),似乎您应该属於[叙 利亚教会]?若不是,请指正. ：我是属於 安提阿大阿拉伯进东正教会 ："Roman Orthodox Patriarchate of Antioch and All the East" 查了。【安提阿大阿拉伯进东正教会】认为自己就是古代的【安提阿大主教区】的延续， 源自彼得和保罗。自称是【在一个与东正教更为广泛的交通中（within the wider communion of Eastern Orthodox Christianity）】，听不懂。基本上，你们应该就是所 谓的【叙利亚教会】这一支。 ：: 2- 不知道您的教会认可几次大公教会会议? ：头7次 你们承认第六次大公会议的教喻吗？ 第三次君士坦丁堡公会议[编辑] 维基百科，自由的百科全书 第三次君士坦丁堡公会议，是於680年至681年在君士坦丁堡召开的基督教大公会议。这会 议是基督教历史上第六次的世界性主教会议。 历史[编辑] 由於教宗何诺利乌一世提出基督的人性意志和神性意志是「一个意志与行动的伦理一致性 」，故被视为趋向「基督一志论」派。在君士坦丁四世和教宗阿加托会谈後，决定安排召 开此次大公会议。继上一次之大公会议（即第二次君士坦丁堡公会议）後，此会议谴责「 基督一性论」及讨论其延伸的「基督一志论」，将「基督一志论」视为异端。何诺利乌一 世并没有被判为异端。另外，会议通过了有关教士等级及教规。 此大公会议得到当时教宗良二世的核准。其後，教宗本笃二世及第三次多雷铎会议（684 年）亦曾嘉许这届大公会议的决定。 ：: 3- 以下是一个古代教父的清单: ：: 爱任纽 Irenaeus of Lyon ：: 特土良 Tertullian ：: 亚他那修 Athanasius ：: 拿先斯的贵格利 Gregory of Nyssa ：: 安波罗修 Ambrose ：: 奥古斯丁 Augustine : ：区梭多模 Chrysostom ：: 耶柔米 Jerome :： 大马士革的约翰 John of Damascus :： 认信者马克西母 Maximus of Confessor ：这些人在我们教会里面都认定为圣人 ：但是我们教会怎麽对这些人的具体传承我不知道 呵呵，怎麽又是【不知道】？你不知道，怎麽【代表】你们的大主教区？ 我建议您最好还是问问您的神甫，他们几个人的【基督论】是正统？还是异端？（东正教 可是认定他们的教义的哦！希望你们跟东正教一样。） ：我以前也是 地方召会 的成员 幸会！ ：我之前待过得那间召会 ：相信所谓的型态论这种异端信仰 呵呵，有兴趣，我们可以讨论啊！ ：相信基督受造这点我完全不认同 呵呵，这是我们在讨论的问题。 ：然後经文讨论时 ：使徒不见了 ：教父不见了 我跟你不谈李常受，我们就谈使徒和教父。:) ：只有李常受思想 其他一切都是__ 呵呵，你不熟悉新教。先不要管。先搞清楚自己和自己的大主教区的信仰吧？！ 最後，我贴天主教方面的材料，不知道您【看】了没有？ 我的意思很简单，天主教方面承认【基督具有被造的人性】，您要不要先宣布天主教是异 端啊？。。。。呵呵 补上一些资料： https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasius_of_Alexandria Nonetheless, within a few years after his death, Gregory of Nazianzus called him the "Pillar of the Church". His writings were well regarded by all Church fathers who followed, in both the West and the East, who noted their rich devotion to the Word-become-man, great pastoral concern, and profound interest in monasticism. Athanasius is counted as one of the four great Eastern Doctors of the Church in the Roman Catholic Church.[3] In the Eastern Orthodox Church, he is labeled as the "Father of Orthodoxy". Some Protestants label him as "Father of the Canon". Athanasius is venerated as a Christian saint, whose feast day is 2 May in Western Christianity, 15 May in the Coptic Orthodox Church, and 18 January in the other Eastern Orthodox Churches. He is venerated by the Oriental and Eastern Orthodox Churches, the Roman Catholic Church, the Lutherans, and the Anglican Communion. 东正教认为亚他那修乃是“正统之父”。 https://orthodoxwiki.org/Gregory_of_Nyssa Epektasis Related to this is Gregory's idea of epektasis or constant progress. Platonic philosophy said that stability is perfection and change is for the worse; in contrast, Gregory described the ideal of human perfection as constant progress in virtue and godliness. In Gregory’s theology, God himself has always been perfect and has never changed, and never will. Humanity fell from grace in the Garden of Eden, but rather than return to an unchanging state, humanity's goal is to become more and more perfect, more like God, even though humanity will never understand, much less attain, God's transcendence. This idea has had a profound influence on the Eastern Orthodox teaching regarding theosis or "divinization". 尼撒的贵格利是整个东正教系统【神化（theosis）】教义的源头。 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Damascus A polymath whose fields of interest and contribution included law, theology, philosophy, and music, he is said by some sources to have served as a Chief Administrator to the Muslim caliph of Damascus before his ordination.[2][3] He wrote works expounding the Christian faith, and composed hymns which are still used both liturgically in Eastern Christian practice throughout the world as well as in western Lutheranism at Easter.[4] He is one of the Fathers of the Eastern Orthodox church and is best known for his strong defense of icons.[5] The Catholic Church regards him as a Doctor of the Church, often referred to as the Doctor of the Assumption due to his writings on the Assumption of Mary.[6] 大马士革的约翰写了许多阐释信仰的着作。他写的诗歌仍然被东正教的礼仪所使用。他还 是扞卫图像（icon）的人。（你们还能敬拜图像，要谢谢他。）天主教封他为教会博士（ the Doctor of Church） https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome He is recognised as a Saint and Doctor of the Church by the Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Lutheran Church, and the Anglican Communion.[6] His feast day is 30 September. 耶柔米同时被天主教，东正教，路德会，安立甘会封为圣人和教会博士。 我建议您不妨再问问您的神甫：【教会博士（Doctor of the Church）】的重要性，并他 们可能不可能是异端？ --

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