作者laifei (即将发霉)
看板Eng-Class
标题Re: [请益] 论坛中,外国网友对 compared with的回应
时间Thu Jun 21 16:40:21 2018
: 牛津高阶辞典有这样一个例句:
: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/with?q=with
:
: It's much easier compared with last time.
这一句在字典中是单独存在的
对我来说, it, 是泛指一个"情况", "情境", 并不是特定的某一个物体, 或是确切的物品
: 这句意思是不是等於:
:
: It's much easier (when it is) compared with last time
:
: -----------
: 网友GoesStation回应:
:
: No. You could add "as" or "when" between the clauses, but "when it is" has a
: different meaning.
:
所以他才会说用as/when比较接近意思
: ----------
: 我回应:
:
: But how about this? For example:
:
: When the test is compared with last time, it's much easier.
:
: → It's much easier (when the test is) compared with last time.
: → It's much easier compared with last time.
:
: ----------
所你提出如果 it 指的是一个the test (n.) 考试/测验/测试/试验
那"文法上"是对的,
: 网友Raymott回应:
:
: Yes, they mean the same thing if what you mean is "This test is easier than
: the last one."
:
: I think GS's objection is that the latter test doesn't become easy when, and
: only when, it is compared to the last test.
:
: It will always be easier.
:
(objection不要轻易的翻成反对, 在这里这只是异议并不是disagreement,
GS并没有指名这是错误的)
所以R才会说, 因为字典只是单独一句,只有当你明确表明要比较的是"上次的test"
你才会用when the test is compared ...
可是瑞凡...
这样还是很奇怪
因为test(考试/测验)怎麽可以拿来与 the last time (上一次, 曾经发生的某一段时间)
所以如果要指名考试, 我会说
It's much easier (when the test is) compared with the previous one.
这一次的考试比上一次的考试简单 (考题真的变简单了)
I did a test.
It's much easier as/when compared with last time.
我考了个试
这比上次简单了
(考试/测验/考题, 本身并没有变得简单也没有变得困难,
而是你认为参与test的过程变得简单了)
所以同学大概说
What did you do?
Did you get the exam paper of the last year?
(你做了什麽? 你拿到了去年的考古题?)
--
常常听正式场合的对话或是跟着传统权威的纪录片, 久而久之, 讲的话就会更谨慎
更精确, 也会更符合文法。最後文法就只是一种
"这样说就是不精确, 描述起来不合逻辑, 听起来感觉耳朵很刺耳"
※ 编辑: laifei (130.102.13.55), 06/21/2018 17:44:40
1F:→ scju: 好的,感谢您! 06/21 23:01