作者scju (QQ)
看板Eng-Class
标题[请益] 论坛中,外国网友说的"refer to"
时间Tue Oct 15 15:28:29 2019
各位好,请教一下
在英语论坛提问,现在式和过去式该如何选择,并以例子说明
Case 1
Tom: Hey, you!
Bob: I'm sorry. Do/Did you mean me?
网友jutfrank:
Both are possible. I'll explain why below.
Related side point: The sense of 'mean' here is similar to 'refer to'. Bob
could say Are/Were you referring to me?
Case 2
Tom: Perhaps we should try another approach.
Bob: What do/did you mean?
网友jutfrank:
Only 'do' is appropriate here. Both Tom and Bob are presently engaged in the
conversation. Compare this to Case 1, where the two speakers are not
presently engaged in a conversation until Bob responds. I do think though
that the present tense 'Do' is more likely in Case 1 because, from the moment
of Bob's response, they begin to be presently engaged.
Related side point: Can you see how the sense of 'mean' is different from in
Case 1? It does not mean 'refer to'. (Well, what Bob means is not obvious
from this. In fact, he could mean What are you referring to? but I imagine a
paraphrase of Bob's response as: Please expand on what you just said.)
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想请教,不太理解jutfrank在最一段讲的内容:
他先说
Can you see how the sense of 'mean' is different from in Case 1?
It does not mean 'refer to'.
又说
In fact, he could mean What are you referring to?
我的问题是,他既然说It does not mean 'refer to'.
怎麽又会说he could mean What are you referring to?
这两个不都是refer to吗?在我理解,他是说「这个mean不意味着'refer to',但Bob
可能是指'What are you referring to?'」
请问这两句话没有前後矛盾吗?
'refer to'的现在进行式不就是'What are you referring to?'吗?
为何jutfrank似乎是表示,这两个是不一样的东西?但明明就是同一片语(refer to),
不是吗?
请教一下,谢谢!
(有在该讨论串提问,不过那个讨论串拉得很长,或许得到回覆的机会不大。)
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1F:推 kaifrankwind: 他不是用in fact来转折了吗,就是说明更多修正/补充 10/15 17:11
2F:→ kaifrankwind: 原本的说法 10/15 17:11
3F:→ kaifrankwind: 「事实上…」这边是他最完整公允的想法:他觉得Bob 10/15 17:15
4F:→ kaifrankwind: 很高机率如何如何,但他也想表示他不能保证Bob一定 10/15 17:15
5F:→ kaifrankwind: 是如何如何 10/15 17:15
感谢K大!
※ 编辑: scju (1.169.76.223 台湾), 10/15/2019 20:44:01