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: Count of St Germain
:
: The Count of St. Germain (fl. 1710–-1784) was a mysterious gentleman
: variously described as a courtier, adventurer, inventor, amateur
: scientist, painter, pianist, violinist and amateur composer. He was also
: described as displaying skills with the practice of alchemy. According
: to some sources, his name does not refer to a familial title or lands,
: but was invented by him as a French version of the Latin Sanctus
: Germanus, meaning "Holy Brother". He also went by a number of other
: names, including the Marquis de Montferrat, Comte Bellamarre or Aymar,
: Chevalier Schoening, Chevalier Weldon (Welldone), Comte Soltikoff,
: Graf Tzarogy, and Prinz Ragoczy.
The Count of St Germain(1710-1784)
(1710路易十五出生喔)是个神秘人物。
有人形容他是廷臣、冒险家、发明家、业余科学家、画家、钢琴家、小提琴手以及
业余作曲家。还有人说他曾展示过链金术。根据几个消息来源,他的名字并不
代表家族领地或头衔,而是自己取的,是拉丁文"Sanctus Germanus"的法文版本,
意思是"Holy Brother".他同时还有一些其他的名字,诸如 Marquis
(侯爵) de
Montferrat, Comte
(伯爵) Bellamarre, Aymar, Chevalier
(骑士) Schoening,
Chevalier Weldon(Welldone), Comte Soltikoff, Graf Tzarogy, 和Prinz
Ragoczy.
: Life
: St. Germain's background and identity are shrouded in mystery, leading
: to many speculations about his origin and ancestry. According to Prince
: Charles of Hesse, St. Germain claimed, toward the end of his life, to be
: the son of Francis II Rakoczi, the Prince of Transylvania, by Rakoczi's
: first wife. This seems to be the prevailing theory. Another theory says
: St. Germain was the illegitimate son of Maria Anna of Pfalz-Neuburg, the
: widow of Charles II of Spain; while still another believes him to have
: been the son of the king of Portugal.
St. Germain的背景与身份成谜,引发许多对其出身的猜测。根据Prince Charles
of Hesse, St Germain在晚年自称是外西凡尼亚王子Francis II Rakoczi与第一任
妻子所生的儿子。这似乎是主流说法,另一个理论是说他是西班牙Charles II的寡
妇Maria Anna of Pfalz-Neuburg的私生子,还有一个猜测说他是葡萄牙王之子。
: St. Germain may have studied in Italy at Siena University, possibly as
: a protege of Grand Duke Gian Gastone (the last of the Medici line).
: The first "sighting" of St. Germain was in 1710, according to Baron de
: Gleichen, who says St. Germain was in Venice at that time. Other
: chronicled appearances include London in 1743 and in Edinburgh in 1745,
: where he was placed under house arrest for being suspected of
: espionage during the Jacobite revolution. He was released when no
: evidence was produced, and soon acquired a reputation as a great
: violinist--as good as Paganini, according to one account. During this
: time he met Jean-Jacques Rousseau. In 1746 he disappeared. Horace
: Walpole, who knew him from about 1745 in London, described him thus:
: "He sings, plays the violin wonderfully, composes, is mad and not very
: sensible".
St Germain可能曾在义大利的席耶那大学读书,为Medici家族最後的Grand Duke
(大公)Gian Gastone的学生。他第一次以St Germain之名出现的纪录在1710。
Baron
(男爵) de Gleichen说他那时在威尼斯。其他的纪录包括1743在伦敦,1745
爱丁堡,在爱丁堡时他因涉嫌在Jacobite revolution期间从事谍报活动被软禁。
因为没有证据,St Germain被释放了,他很快赢得优秀小提琴手的名声,据说和
Paganini一样好
(Paganini是当代举世第一名的小提琴手和音乐家)。在这段时期他
认识了Jean-Jacques Rousseau
(卢梭)。1746年他消失了。一位1745年就认识他
的Horace Walpole形容他:"他唱歌,拉奏美妙的小提琴,作曲,有点疯狂而且
不是非常理性。"
: He reappeared in Versailles in 1758. The old portrait of him dates from
: these years. He claimed to have had recipes for dyes, and was given
: quarters in the Chateau de Chambord by Louis XV, with whom he spent a
: great deal of time, along with Louis' mistress, Madame de Pompadour.
: During this time in Paris, St. Germain liberally gave diamonds, of which
: he had many, as gifts. The Italian adventurer Giacomo Casanova says he
: personally witnessed St. Germain turning silver into gold, but adds that
: he suspected it was done by sleight of hand. It is said St. Germain
: sometimes hinted he was centuries old. At the time a mime, who called
: himself Lord Gower, began to mimic his mannerism in salons, joking that
: St. Germain had advised Jesus. In 1760 St. Germain left for England
: through Holland on a mission for Louis XV, when the Minister of Foreign
: Affairs, Duke of Choiseul, tried to have him arrested.
1758年他重回凡尔赛,他的一些肖像画来自於这个时期。他说拥有一些染料配方
,而且路易十五让他住在Chateau de Chambord
(香波堡),他和路易十五和其情妇
Pompadour夫人相处很长一段时间。在巴黎,他大方的分送钻石当作礼物。义大利
知名冒险家Giacomo Casanova 说他亲眼看过St Germain化银成金,不过又加上
一句说那可能只是技法而已。St Germain有时会暗示他其实已经几百岁了,一位
自称叫Lord Gower的丑角开始在沙龙中模仿St Germain的神态,开玩笑说
St Germain曾当耶稣的顾问。1760年,外交部长Duke
(公爵) of Choiseul想要将
St Germain逮捕,他却经由荷兰到英国去执行路易十五所交派的任务去了。
: After that the Count passed through the Netherlands into Russia and
: apparently was in St Petersburg when the Russian army coup put
: Catherine the Great on the throne. Later conspiracy theories credit him
: for causing it. The next year he turned up in the Southern Netherlands
: (now Belgium), bought land and took the name Surmount. He tried to offer
: his processes—treatments of wood, leather, oil paint—to the state.
: During his negotiations—that came to nothing—with Belgian minister
: Karl Cobenzl he hinted at a royal birth. He then disappeared for 11
: years.
之後伯爵又经由尼德兰到俄罗斯,当俄国发生政变,推凯瑟琳上宝座时他显然
人就在圣彼得堡。事後有理论推断他就是肇因。第二年他出现在南尼德兰
(现在的比利时),购买土地,使用另一个名字Surmount。他试着向城邦推荐
自己的加工技术:木材、皮革、油画颜料的加工方式,交涉过程中(最後交涉失败)
他暗示自己出身王室。然後接下来11年消失无踪。
: In 1774 he resurfaced, and apparently tried to present himself to a
: count in Bavaria as Freiherr Reinhard Gemmingen-Guttenberg, the Count
: Tsarogy. In 1776 the Count was in Germany, calling himself Chevalier
: Welldone, and again offered recipes—cosmetics, wines, liqueurs,
: treatments of bone, paper and ivory. He alienated King Frederick's
: emissaries by his claims of transmutation of gold. To Frederick he
: claimed to have been a Freemason. He settled in a house of Prince Karl
: of Hesse-Kassel, governor of Schleswig-Holstein, and studied herbal
: remedies and chemistry to give to the poor. To him he claimed he was a
: Francis Rakoczy II, Prince of Transylvania. 1784 is when the Count
: supposedly died, probably of pneumonia. He left very little behind.
1774年他再度出现,向一位巴伐利亚的伯爵自我介绍为Freiherr Reinhart
Gemmingen-Guttenberg, the Count Tsarogy。1776年伯爵在德国,自称为
Chevalier Welldone,再一次推销自己的处方:化妆品、葡萄酒、烈酒、对於骨
头、纸和象牙的加工法。他用黄金变质来离间King Frederick的密探,对国王说
他是个共济会员
(神秘又传说一大堆的秘密结社)。他住在Prince Karl of
Hesse-Kessel, governor of Schleswig-Holsrein的一个居所中,研究药草药方
与化学来周济穷人,对於这位王子他自称为Francis Rakoczy II, Prince of
Transylvania。1784年是伯爵"应该"死亡的时期,死因可能是肺炎,没有留下
多少遗产。
: There were rumors of him alive in Paris in 1835, in Milan in 1867, and
: in Egypt during Napoleon's campaign. Napoleon III kept a dossier on him
: but it was destroyed in a fire that gutted the Hotel de Ville in 1871.
: Theosophist Annie Besant said that she met the Count in 1896.
: Theosophist C. W. Leadbeater claimed to have met him in Rome in 1926,
: and said that St. Germain showed him a robe that had been previously
: owned by a Roman Emperor and that St. Germain told him that one of his
: residences was a castle in Transylvania. Theosophist Guy Ballard claimed
: he met the Count on Mt. Shasta and he introduced him to visitors from
: Venus and published a book series about his channelings; Ballard founded
: the "I AM" Activity.
有谣传他仍然活着,1835在巴黎,1867在米兰,拿破仑战役时期在埃及。拿破仑
三世有一份他的档案,但是在1871年一场大火中烧毁了。神智学者Annie Besant
说她在1896年遇到伯爵。神智学者C. W. Leadbeater说他在1926年在罗马遇到过
伯爵,而且St Germain展示了一件曾经属於罗马皇帝的袍子,他还说自己的一个
住处是外西凡尼亚的一座城堡。神智学者Guy Ballard宣称在Mt. Shasta见到
伯爵,伯爵把他引见给一群金星来的旅客,并出版一系列关於他们交流的书。
Ballard 发起了"I AM" Activity。
(不知算宗教支派还是结社的团体,以
"Ascended Masters"为基础。勉强翻译为"升天之主"的,就是耶稣基督和
St. Germain)
: On January 28, 1972, ex-convict and lover of singing star Dalida,
: Richard Chanfray claimed to be the Count of St. Germain on French
: television. He also claimed that Louis XV was still alive.
1972年1/28,Richard Chanfray,一位前科犯和歌星Dalida的情人,在电视上
自称就是St Germain,同时说路易十五仍然活着。
: Legends
: During the centuries after his death, numerous myths, legends and
: speculations have surfaced. He has been attributed with occult practices
: like snake charming and ventriloquism. There are stories about an affair
: between him and Madame de Pompadour. Other legends report that he was
: immortal, the Wandering Jew, an alchemist with the elixir of life, a
: Rosicrucian or an ousted king, a bastard of Queen Maria Anna of Spain,
: that he prophesied the French Revolution. Casanova called him the
: violinist Catlini. Count Cagliostro was rumored to be his pupil. The
: fact that the name "St. Germain" was not exactly uncommon confuses the
: matters even more.
在他死後的数百年间,各种神话、传说、猜测纷纷出现。有人说他会玩蛇和腹语
术,有传闻说他和Pompadour夫人有绯闻。还有的说他是不死之身,是 the
Wandering Jew
(中古的基督教传说,一个犹太人在十字架之路上嘲笑耶稣,因此
被诅咒在耶稣再度降临前都必须在世上流浪),是个拥有不死药的炼金术士,是个
蔷薇十字团员或被驱逐的国王,是Queen Maria Anna of Spain的私生子,或是
他预言了法国大革命。Casanova
(义大利冒险家)称他为提琴手Catlini。Count
Caliostro 据说是他的学生。
(Caliostro是个义大利旅人、共济会员、罪犯。
曾经涉入路易十六与玛丽安东尼的钻石项链诈欺案而被关入巴士底监狱九个月,
後来因为证据不足获释,但是被驱逐出境)另外"St Germain"这个名字并非那麽
稀有也造成不少混乱。
呼~ 差不多了
其他的东西比较怪力乱神
什麽升天之主啊、紫水晶啊、水瓶时代啊 那些就不翻了
有一个比较有趣的是列出 St Germain历年的身份:
: According to Ascended Master Teachings
: According to The "I AM" Activity, The Bridge to Freedom, The Summit
: Lighthouse, and The Temple of The Presence, Saint Germain was embodied
: as:
: Ruler of a Golden Age civilization in the area of the Sahara Desert
: 70,000 years ago.
七万年前撒哈拉沙漠中黄金时代文明的统治者
: High priest on Atlantis 13,000 years ago, serving in the Order of
: Lord Zadkiel in the Temple of Purification, located where the island
: of Cuba is now located.
一万三千年前亚特兰提斯的高等祭司
: Samuel, eleventh century B.C. Religious leader in Israel who served as
: prophet, priest, and last of the Hebrew judges.
西元前11世纪以色列的宗教领袖,是预言师、祭司和希伯来法官
: Saint Joseph, first century A.D., Nazareth. Husband of Mary and
: Guardian of Jesus.
西元一世纪,Saint Joseph,圣母的丈夫与耶稣的监护人
: Saint Alban, late third or early fourth century, town of Verulamium,
: renamed St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England. First British martyr - he
: had sheltered a fugitive priest, became a devout convert, and was put
: to death for disguising himself as the priest so he could die in his
: place.
西元三世纪末或四世纪初,St. Albans,英国第一位受难者。他庇护一位圣职
人员,自己乔装成他代替赴死。
: Proclus, c. 410 - 485 A.D. Athens. The last major Greek Neoplatonic
: philosopher, headed the Platonic Academy and wrote extensively on
: philosophy, astronomy, mathematics, and grammar.
西元五世纪,雅典,最後的主要希腊新柏拉图哲学家。
: Merlin, c. fifth or sixth century, Britain. Magician and counselor at
: King Arthur's Camelot who inspired the establishment of the Order of
: the Knights of the Round Table.
西元五或六世纪,亚瑟王的法师梅林
: Roger Bacon, c. 1220-1292 A.D., England. Philosopher, educational
: reformer, and experimental scientist; forerunner of modern science
: renowned for his exhaustive investigations into alchemy, optics,
: mathematics, and languages.
西元十三世纪,英国哲学家Roger Bacon。教育改革家、现代科学的先驱。
: Organizer behind the scenes for the Secret Societies in Germany in the
: late fourteen and early fifteenth centuries. The creation of a fictional
: character named "Christian Rosenkreuz" was inspired by his efforts.
十四世纪末十五世纪初,德国秘密会社的幕後指挥者
: Christopher Columbus, 1451-1506 A.D. Believed to have been born in
: Genoa, Italy and settled in Portugal. Discovered America in 1492 during
: first of four voyages to the New World sponsored by King Ferdinand and
: Queen Isabella of Spain.
发现新大陆的哥伦布
: Francis Bacon, 1561-1626, England. Philosopher, statesman, essayist and
: literary master, author of the Shakespearean plays (according to I AM
: teachings), father of inductive science and herald of the scientific
: revolution. The claim is that Sir Francis Bacon made it appear that he
: died in 1626, arranging for another person's body to be placed his
: coffin, and that he even attended his own "funeral". He then supposedly
: traveled secretly to Transylvania (now part of Romania) to the Rakoczy
: Mansion, where he is said to have continued preparations for his
: physical Ascension under the direct training of the Master R (Great
: Divine Director). He had reportedly incarnated in that area a number of
: times in previous lifetimes and felt particularly at home there. Since
: Francis Bacon was sighted in the area at various times over the
: following decades, the local people concluded that he must be a member
: of the Rakoczy family (possibly related to Prince Ferenc Rakoczy II of
: Transylvania).
英国,法兰西斯培根,国中历史就有了
这里说他安排自己的诈死,还参加了自己的葬礼,然後到外西凡尼亚去了
: Le Comte de Saint Germain, the "Wonderman of Europe" in the eighteenth
: and nineteenth centuries. He developed a reputation of being an
: outstanding alchemist, scholar, linguist, musician, artist and diplomat.
: He worked behind the scenes to try to establish a United States of
: Europe and to prevent the bloodshed of violent revolution. His powers
: included bilocation, appearing at court and then dissolving his form
: at will, removing flaws from diamonds and other precious stones, and
: precipitating an elixir that prevented aging. He was also ambidextrous
: and could compose simultaneously a letter with one hand and poetry with
: the other, or two identical pieces of writing with each hand. He visited
: Marie Antoinette and her intimate friend, Madame d'Adhemar, who later
: wrote the story of his abilities as an Adept, and that he had warned
: of the coming debacle and death of the king and queen. He also
: reportedly worked behind the scenes with George Washington and Benjamin
: Franklin to establish the United States of America.
Le Comte de Saint Germain,炼金术士、学者、语言专家、音乐家、艺术家、
外交官。他试图建立"欧洲联邦"来避免暴力革命的流血。拥有忽然出现及消失的
能力,能够除去宝石上的瑕疵,会制造不老药,能左右手同时写不一样的文章,
或是两手同时复制出一样的段落。他常拜访王妃玛丽安东尼与其友人,据说预言
了国王与王妃之死,另外据说他还在幕後和华盛顿及富兰克林合作建立美国。
然後 有的理论说这个人还活在某个地方
呼啦啦~翻译的很简陋 当作参考就好
一下看这麽多资料还真会把脑袋弄晕
还是不要太过头吧
要是失去兴趣就不好了
我心得还没写完呢~~~
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