作者iliketea (He got 16, going on 17)
看板Federer
标题Re: 杜拜男网赛决赛
时间Sun Feb 27 18:30:21 2011
针对前前有板友说 Rog 在场上想办法...恩...
大略翻一下
Rickyroger
Djokovic's game in the first set was even better than his game at the AO
against Roger. By a good bit. 91% first serves or so at one point. And the
best I've ever seen him hit the ball. Ever.
不管谁输谁赢,称赞Djokovic,没有很难
Djo第一盘击球状态是有史以来我看过的最好,最好!
If people ever wonder what "the zone" is, that was it right there in that
first set.
大家如果还在想说啥叫"神领域",第一盘就是。
MARCIAF said it beautifully; that all the while it seemed Roger was simply
trying to find a way back into the match, as though he wanted to push
"restart". This had everything to do with Novak. Not the result entirely, but
definitely the start and the first set.
Rog想把比赛归零重新开始,但Djo不准
Also, if Roger did talk things out with Paul, I didn't see it. Novak most
certainly spoke to Vajda a good deal. Lovely graphic shown where 73% of all
balls were hit to Roger's backhand, and you could see Roger trying his best
to run around it but Novak was always on the front foot on serve and Roger
was always on the back foot with his poor serving, hence Novak feasted on
that equation.
我没看到Rog跟Annacone的战术。但 Novak 肯定跟他的教练说的可清楚了:73% 的球
打向 Rog 的反拍,Rog 虽然很努力奔跑救球,但 Novak 发球好,Rog 则相反;正重他的
下怀。
Now onto what Roger did wrong. I can understand that Roger really was dealing
with a better player on the day, but I was so disappointed in how he didn't
use the court at all. He still moves so well, but never changes it up. What a
waste. I hardly saw him slice today. Instead he took Novak on in groundstroke
exchanges. A Novak who simply thinks he can beat anyone. The only way you get
a person of the zone is to change things up, not mildly, but radically. Chip
everything. Charge on every second serve return. Serve a slow first serve.
Slice every backhand for a whole game. Just bust the opponent out of the
beautiful world he is living in.
来谈谈 Rog 做错了什麽,可以看出 Rog 今天就是在打个神魂附体的选手,但我不免失望
他居然打法这样单调。他移位依然很棒,但都没有变化。今天几乎都没看到切球,相反地
只看到他在底线跟 Novak 对干,跟一个信心高涨的 Novak 对干。把这种人把神坛上请下
来的唯一方法就是改变节奏,不是只变一点,而要变很大。切切切,二发都给他切回去,
发超慢速一发,就是把他的状态给搅乱。
I saw none of that. Roger was content to simply try and beat Novak at his own
game, which ironically, for the better part of the 2000s, was his own game,
which is why he is struggling to let go of it. Paul would have been pulling
his hair out (whatever's left of it).
今天啥都没看到,Rog 就只就想在底线击溃 Novak,但令人莞尔的是自21世纪以来这底线
大部分菁华还都是他自己的 XD 也说明了为啥他很难放弃。
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Roger's problem now is just one
thing; lack of an ability to truly THINK on the court in terms of match
dynamics. He simply does not change things up. He does not see subtle things
his opponents are doing anymore to be able to adjust on the fly. He just eggs
on with the same game. Where Paul has helped immensely until now is in
helping Roger reach that level of "minimal excellence". Roger, since
Annacone, moves, better, hits better, volleys better, and even has a better
second serve, which guarantees him a path to finals/SFs. But when he has to
meet someone at the same level, the younger guy does two things better:
之前说过了现在再说一遍,Rog 现在的问题只有一个那就是在场上当比赛进行他无法清楚
的思考。他就是没有不同的战术,他没看到对手做的一些细微的事情,然後就此因应,他
就是在孵同样的打法。教练到目前为止帮他最多得就是让他各项技术都好一点。Rog 自从
请他之後移位有快一点,击球更好一点,截击友准确一点,甚至二发都更有攻击性,这都
让他可以迈向四强或决赛。但当他必须打一个跟他一样好的人,年轻人这做两个事:
1) Keeps up his level from better mental focus
因为专注力好,整场都保有高水准
2) Sees changes quickly and adapts better
看到些微变化就能立即做调整
At that highest of high levels, that's what makes the difference. Not a
faster serve or quicker feet. Just an ability to focus hard and think. Either
this is age-related or he has distractions we just don't know about. But that
is his problem. Hardly anything particularly technical. It doesn't matter
that today he hit more BHs DTL than yesterday or whatever. He's playing at an
excellent level again so those are not the things that make the difference.
在最高最高的水准,这就是决定胜负的所在,不是发球或移位;就是个专注的能力。是老
化还是心有旁鹜我们不得而知,但这是他的问题,这都不是技术面的。这跟他今天打的帅
气反拍直线比昨天多无关,他状态还是不错所以这些都没关系。
He needs to feel fresher point to point. Easier said than done. I'm sure this
is it. I'll admit this was the first match of his I saw at this tournament,
but it's what I think.
他必须每球都脑筋清楚,但说比做容易。
(最後两句弃翻,因为怕被嘘 XD)
笔者是打过网球而且少年时期曾被教主延揽到佛罗里达,只因父母不肯而作罢
现在是医生,类似怪医豪斯里的Wilson这样 XD
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1F:推 AlexisK:切球虽可改变节奏,但球速慢也是蛮危险的,而且Annacone 02/27 20:40
2F:→ AlexisK:不是有希望费拔反拍具攻击性一点? 02/27 20:40
3F:→ iliketea:mix things up... 02/27 20:45
4F:推 chia0908:推~~专注力专注力啊!! 02/27 23:50
5F:推 micbrimac:我倒不觉得切球好方法,Fed现在的切球都被对方狂攻... 02/28 00:13
6F:→ hijacker000:切球少.就说要多切球 切球多.就说要少切球 02/28 00:18
7F:→ hijacker000:费爸最大问题就是反拍 体力已不容许他持续的闪身正拍 02/28 00:19
8F:→ hijacker000:而一旦当天反拍状况不稳 就可能影响到正拍状况 02/28 00:19
9F:→ hijacker000:不过对上当今其它的Top 3, 除了恢复过去的神之反拍 02/28 00:21
10F:→ hijacker000:我不觉得还有什麽方法可以应付 02/28 00:22
11F:→ hijacker000:而要恢复到神的状态 也只有看当天的状态了 02/28 00:23
12F:→ hijacker000:现今的top球员 球技已与费爸不相上下了 02/28 00:24
13F:→ hijacker000:不可能再像过去 在状况不好的情况下 还能赢球 02/28 00:25
14F:→ iliketea:看来大家都没把文章看清楚 orz 02/28 01:03
15F:推 hotmilk1228:我觉得除了那豆以外 切球还是非常管用 而且切球也能 02/28 04:04
16F:→ hotmilk1228:扩大费拔仿守范围 也比单首反拍抽球不容易失误 更不 02/28 04:04
17F:→ hotmilk1228:用说能变换节奏了 ~ 02/28 04:05
18F:推 memory369:我觉得缺乏应变战术还蛮贴切的啊 02/28 15:33
19F:→ memory369:最近几场很常同一套打到最後 一发离家出走就没办法了 02/28 15:34
20F:推 chattie76:我也觉得这篇写的很中肯+1 一发一旦进不去那个发球局真 02/28 17:07
21F:→ chattie76:的就危险了 反拍又不耐抽 切球是一个方法之一 但前提是 02/28 17:08
22F:→ chattie76:一定要切深 若不够深一定被对手巴的份 而且我觉得还是要 02/28 17:11
23F:→ chattie76:和抽球交互使用啦 如此才能产生扰乱对手节奏的作用 下次 02/28 17:12
24F:→ chattie76:再遇到Djokovic(两人在7个月内竟然已经对战8次了~真夸张 02/28 17:15
25F:→ chattie76:Roger一定要想好战术啊 如此才有可能赢现状态夸张的Djo 02/28 17:18
26F:推 megar:如果每次都是在SF或F遇到Djo 我觉得一直输也没关系耶 XD 02/28 18:36
27F:推 singlecolor:Rogi第二盘只是一时找不回状态 才输的这麽乾脆 02/28 18:57
28F:→ singlecolor:硬要说要加强什麽 只希望一发进球率能稳定就好 02/28 18:58
29F:→ singlecolor:毕竟这关系到布局 02/28 18:58
30F:→ xz123xz:以前连切球都能切出致胜球,现在永远就是斜线偏短给人 02/28 21:25
31F:推 ghost47:希望费拔拔今年重回第一 02/28 22:20
32F:推 lane34:现在发球的重要性更甚反拍 另外切球都切斜线居多 02/28 23:41
33F:推 hotmilk1228:发球真的好重要阿~ 但是我一直觉的 DJO接发球真的不 03/01 04:54
34F:→ hotmilk1228:是盖的 有时候都觉得 真的发球状况不好妈- -? 还是对 03/01 04:55
35F:→ hotmilk1228:方太会接! 03/01 04:55
36F:→ hijacker000:有时候是对方太会接.造成发球方想要发出更刁钻的球 03/02 09:56
37F:→ hijacker000:也因此更容易造成一发失误 03/02 09:56