作者mtrainier (天‧来‧变‧幻)
看板FinalFantasy
标题Re: [问题] 请问太八的最後魔王是谁??
时间Thu Dec 8 01:42:36 2005
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我觉得是挺有趣的想法...板友说的Rinoa = Ultimacia 假说...
所以也就来凑热闹...以下是我个人的看法...
因为多少跟太八的世界观有关...
所以我想魔女传承这点还是要回到太八可以知道的世界观上...
太八世界中的"神话"应该是在游戏中偷偷藏在两个不起眼的路人对话中...
一个是在Zell家隔壁...老婆婆跟小女孩的对话...
对原文没兴趣的话...之後有小弟不才的翻译...
Grandma "Long, long ago...
When this world was just made,
there was a strong god named 'Hyne'."
Girl "And, and..."
Grandma "This god was very, very strong,
but after fighting a lot of monsters,
he became very tired."
Grandma "So he made 'people' like you and me to do all the work,
and the god went to sleep."
Girl "So he took a nap?"
Grandma "That's right.
However, the god was very surprised when he awoke.
Surprised that there were so many people."
Girl "Yeah, there are so many in this world."
Grandma "Hyne decided to reduce the number of people by taking
away the children."
Girl "You mean...the children like me?"
Grandma "Uh huh. Scary, isn't it?
...Of course, everyone was scared then, too."
Grandma "And so, the battle against Hyne began.
Even though the people were small,
they all got together, and finally cornered him."
Girl "Wow!"
Grandma "Hyne didn't know what to do.
Out of desperation, he gave half of his body to the
people and ran off with the remaining other half."
Girl "He can do that?"
Grandma "Well, he was a god.
Anyway, it turns out Hyne tricked the people."
Grandma "The half that Hyne ran away with was the half that
had the stronger magic."
Girl "Wow...
So we still can't find the other half that ran away???"
Grandma "Hmm...
It might be close by. actually.
It might even be watching you."
[上文不是我打的...是巴哈FF...一个叫Reishan的板友...
没问过就转载很不好意思...不过因为只有转原文没有转翻译...应该还ok吧]
大概意思是...
这个世界的神(叫Hyne)
有天打怪打到烦了...就创造了外挂...呃...不是...是创造了人类...
然後自己就跑去睡大头觉...事情就丢给了人类去做...
当祂有天睡爽了醒过来之後发现...这世界的人多到爆...
所以就决定杀些小孩子以减少人数...
人当然不让祂杀小孩...所以就群聚起来反抗...
人赢了...Hyne则是将自己分成两半...
这边提到的是Hyne自己带走了"魔法较强的那一半"逃走了...
逃到那去...?不知道...
搞不好现在就在你身边...XDXD
另一段对话据说是白Seed跟小朋友讲的故事...
[这段出现的时间点不是很清楚...我玩太八被我漏掉没看到过...]
Today, we are going to start on a new book. It's a story about a very wise
man named Vascaroon. The title of the book is 'The Legend of Vascaroon.'
Once upon a time, there was a person named Hyne. Hyne was the ruler of
the world. He became lazy and decided to make a tool to make his life easier.
Hyne made a neat tool. His tool could make more tools by itself. Soon
there were a lot of tools in the world. These tools were actually people.
When Hyne woke up, he was surprised because there were a lot of people.
Hyne want to reduce the number of people, and used magic to burn up a
lot of small people. The small people were called children. The people
cherished the children very much.
So the people rebelled against Hyne. Hyne used powerful magic to fight
them. The people couldn't use magic, but had wisdom. Eventually,
Hyne began to lose the war, because there were too many people to fight,
and they were getting smarter. Therefore, he decided to make peace with
the people by offering them half of his body along with his powers.
Hyne cut his body in half and gave the people half as promised. Then,
another war started. People began to fight over the power Hyne offered them
through his body. This war lasted for decades. Finally, King Zebalga and
the Zebalga tribe emerged victorious and demanded Hyne's body-half to get
its powers. But the body ignore their demands.
Then, Vascaroon came to the rescue. He appeared before the confused
Zebalgas and revealed to them that Hyne's body-half was corrupt and
possessed no real power. The body-half was actually Hyne's cast-off skin.
The Zebalgas were angered by this truth, and decided to destroy Hyne.
The Zebalgas never found Hyne. People began to call him "Hyne the Magician"
and continued to hunt him for centuries to come.
[巴哈Richleo板友...也是只转原文]
与上头第一段对话是大同小异的...
这段明确指出人并不会使用魔法...Hyne才会...
虽然人不会魔法但有智慧...所以打败了Hyne...
Hyne将自己分成两半是骗人类说留下来的那一半的力量给人类...
但其实留下来的完全没有魔力...Hyne带着魔力逃跑了...
上头就是至少在游戏中可以窥见的太八世界观...
Hyne最後怎麽了...不知道...
但若人类是不会用魔法的...(主角一行人会用也是靠着有GF才能用...)
那麽...会用魔法的魔女或许就是Hyne的"另一半"...
魔女为什麽要传承...游戏中也没有讲...
不过至少以Edea跟Adel同时存在一个时空的情形看来...
我想或许Hyne的另一半其实是四分五裂的在不同人身上...
(所以其实我的立场蛮明显的XD...就算Rinoa真的都收下了Ultimaica传给Edea的魔力...
我认为还是有可能在某处/某时空有另外的魔女...那个人的未来才是Ultimacia...
好啦好啦...我知道是我铁齿啦...可是正妹变妖女实在很难接受嘛)
如果四分五裂说成立的话...
那麽...或许可以解释为什麽Ultimacia要做时空压缩...
(时空压缩在游戏中也没有解释是为了什麽原因...)
将不同时空弄成同一个...那麽所有的碎片就会在同一个地方...
那麽拼图就完成了...Hyne的另一半...
(用来解释大魔王的动机??)
Odine在解说时空压缩的时後也有提到...时空压缩後Ultimacia会是唯一可以在那生存的
还蛮像Hyne被人打跑後的复仇...也完成了当出Hyne醒过来之後想杀人的计划...
以上...个人的想法...
至於线不线性真的还是个不解之谜啊...(?)
一个问题是...为什麽创立SeeD...? (谜之声:福田要赚钱.../踢飞~~来乱的啊)
创Seed是Edea的意思...
Seed的目的是对抗魔女...
但Edea到底是为什麽要对抗魔女??
结尾动画之前有一段Squall跟Edea的对话
Edea: You called me Matron. Who...are you?
Squall: A SeeD. A SeeD from Balamb Garden.
Edea: SeeD? Garden?
Squall: Both Garden and SeeD were your ideas. Garden trains SeeDs.
SeeDs are trained to defeat the sorceress.
Edea: What are you saying? You're...that boy from the future?
Squall: ...Matron.
Edea: Please return. You do not belong here.
[来源是Gamefaqs www.gamefaqs.com]
看得出来至少在Ellone出走...Squall少年创伤形成期这段时间Edea是没有Seed概念的..
游戏中的感觉还蛮像是因为这跑错时空的Squall跟Edea讲了...才有後来的Seed...
这样其实给我一种回圈的错觉...
因为打败了Ultimacia =>所以Edea才成立了Seed来对抗Ultimacia ??
好乱啊@@"
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