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※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1EF1joAp ] 作者: sampsonlu919 (父亲,愿你安息) 看板: NBA 标题: [新闻] 诊断球队高峰会 专家看好灰熊前景 时间: Sat Aug 6 00:33:50 2011 [球队] 诊断球队高峰会 专家看好灰熊前景 http://nba.pixnet.net/news/article/2011-08-05/42300/47519 发表时间:2011-08-05 曼菲斯灰熊绝对是上个赛季NBA最美妙的故事之一,他们击倒马刺,完成了史上第四次 老八传奇;随後他们与雷霆大战七场,险些杀进西区决赛。这一连惊奇之旅让灰熊瞬间 成了各方瞩目的焦点,他们究竟只是运气好而已,还是他们已经蜕变成完全体,足以 撼动全联盟?美国五位篮球专家日前便针对灰熊的诸多问题展开了一场超级高峰会: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are Memphis Grizzlies title contenders? http://es.pn/oEsyzj The TrueHoop Network 1、灰熊是真的强大,还是一支伪强队? Are the Grizzlies contenders or pretenders? 亚诺维兹(Kevin Arnovitz, ESPN.com): The Grizzlies have won 24, 40 and 46 games over the past three seasons, so there's a definite upward trajectory here. But until they recruit some serious perimeter shooting, they're merely pretenders -- albeit a scrappy and intriguing pretender and a whole lot of fun to watch. 过去三个赛季,灰熊的胜场分别是24胜、40胜和46胜,进步非常明显。但,除非他们 加强外线投篮,否则他们只是伪强队而已,尽管他们斗志旺盛,而且很值得一看。 克莱恩(Chip Crain, 灰熊部落格3 Shades of Blue): Contenders. They started to finally play together at the end of last season and have an identity now that the entire team is buying into. And with most of the players still on rookie contracts, the future looks very bright in Memphis. This team was only one triple-overtime game away from the conference finals, after all. 他们是强队。从上个球季末开始,他们凝聚了全队,找到了自己的风格,同时,他们 很多主力球员都还拿着新秀合约,这让他们的未来看起来非常光明,他们还会进步, 事实上,他们距离西区决赛,也仅差一个延长赛而已。 德费罗(Justin DeFeo, 篮网部落格Nets Are Scorching): Pretenders. The Grizzlies are about a year or two away from being championship contenders, but last season's success wasn't a fluke. With some of their best players young and still improving, and with age catching up to the old guard in the West, anything can happen. 灰熊现在还只是伪强队,再等个一两年,他们也许就能成为冠军的竞争者。但他们上季 的成功也绝非侥幸,他们的球员十分年轻,进步空间还很大,而西区传统强队正在逐步 老化中,这也为他们制造更多的机会。 鲁勃(Brian Robb, 赛尔提克部落格Celtics Hub): Contenders. Memphis has a young, promising core that defends well and has three of its top players (Zach Randolph, Rudy Gay, Mike Conley) locked up for the long term. With that formula for success, it's tough to make a case for three to four other Western Conference rosters I'd take over the Griz's for the foreseeable future. 曼菲斯有一群前途美好的青年才俊,他们防守非常好,三名核心球员(蓝道夫Zach Randolph、康利Mike Conley和盖伊Rudy Gay)的合约还很长,就这点来看,在西区 我很难找出三支比他们前景还好的球队。 杨(Royce Young, 雷霆部落格Daily Thunder): Absolutely contenders. Assuming Marc Gasol is retained, they're bringing back a better team than the one that fell to the Thunder in seven games in the West semifinals. Imagine if that team had its best scorer in Rudy Gay for the postseason. Add him to a core of Zach Randolph, Gasol and Mike Conley and you've got a very good team. 假设小盖索(Marc Gasol)留守,他们下季的阵容甚至比上季那支将雷霆逼到生死战的 灰熊更好。想想吧,如果上季季後赛他们最好的得分手盖伊没有因伤缺赛,他们会是 多麽强大? 2、灰熊该不该交易盖伊? Should the Grizzlies consider trading Rudy Gay? 亚诺维兹: There's a temptation to believe that if a team can succeed and improve without a specific player -- as the Griz did last spring with Gay sidelined -- that means he's expendable. Should Chris Wallace listen to offers for Gay? You bet. But with four years remaining on a hefty contract, it's unlikely he can get equal value in return. 灰熊上个球季证明了失去某个球员,他们仍然可以取得成功,季後赛他们没有盖伊, 仍然接近了西区决赛,这意味着盖伊并非不可动摇的,华勒斯(Chris Wallace)当然 应该听取报价,问题是,盖伊合约还剩四年,总金额并不低,想换来同等价值的球员, 十分困难。 克莱恩: No, the Grizzlies shouldn't trade Gay unless they can find someone of equal or superior talent to replace him. The team was 13-2 in the last 15 games he played before his injury and is better with him than without him. 不,灰熊不应该交易盖伊,除非他们能换来跟盖伊一样出色甚至更加优秀的球员。上个 赛季,在盖伊受伤之前的15场比赛,他们拿下13胜2负。 德费罗: There are few untouchable players in the NBA, and Rudy Gay is not one of them. The Grizzlies have already showed they can win without Gay in the lineup. If a trade comes along that makes sense for them, they should absolutely consider it. NBA现在没多少「不动产」,盖伊显然不属於那个行列。灰熊已经证明了没有盖伊他们 可以赢球,如果一笔交易可以让他们更强大,为什麽不做呢? 鲁勃: Not anytime soon. The one thing Memphis lacked in its impressive run to the Western Conference semifinals was consistent offense. Although Gay's bloated contract will likely limit the team's flexibility under the next CBA, trading its best scorer seems foolish. 倒是不用这麽快做交易决定,灰熊上季缺乏的是稳定的进攻火力,尽管盖伊的合约将会 限制了他们的薪资弹性空间,但交易自己阵中最好的得分手?这看起来太傻太天真了! 杨: No way. Sure they caught fire once he went down but I don't think that's an indictment on Gay. Plus, that would be assuming Tony Allen would continue to play high-quality, productive ball on both ends. Seems like a hefty risk to me. 得了吧!确实,上季灰熊在他倒下後,仍旧打出不错的成绩,但我不觉得这关盖伊什麽 事。此外,难道要让艾伦(Tony Allen)在攻防两端继续扮演那麽重要的角色?他看起来 可不是那麽可靠。 3、在获得续约之後,蓝道夫下个赛季能依旧表现出色吗? After getting an extension, which Z-Bo will show up next season? 亚诺维兹: With Randolph, all bets are off, but there was unquestionably a different vibe to his game last season. Was he a guy with dollar signs in his eyes, or a player who finally found a team and coaching staff that understood how to maximize his talents and minimize his liabilities? The truth probably lies somewhere in between. 对蓝道夫来说,什麽事都有可能发生,但上季的他,确实有所不同。他是为了合约才 打得那麽卖力吗?还是他真的找到能够将他能力发挥最大化的教练和球队呢?都有 可能。 克莱恩: Z-Bo may have played the last two seasons only for a contract but it is more likely that he has actually matured. Randolph isn't the player he was earlier in his career, when he partied all night and hung out with the wrong group of people. He's a family man and loved in Memphis. There is no reason not to assume he comes back ready to play. 也许是为了合同吧,但目前看起来更像是他真的成熟起了,蓝道夫和生涯早期完全不同 了,以前他就是彻夜在外面鬼魂,交友不慎还老是捅篓子。但在曼菲斯,他突然变成了 阳光宅男,大家都喜欢他,所以,假设下季他仍然很优秀,应该是没有任何问题的。 德费罗: On the court, you always know what you're getting with Z-Bo -- about 20 points and 10 rebounds. It's off the court where his problems arise. But I suspect the Z-Bo who loves the city of Memphis and has matured will show up next season. 在场上,你知道蓝道夫可以带给你什麽:20分外加10篮板;问题是场下的他?但我 怀疑蓝道夫,这个热爱曼菲斯而且已经成熟多了的家伙,很可能会将他的毛病再次 暴露出来。 鲁勃: The motivated one. It took me a while to get on board with Z-Bo, a player who has always put up good numbers on bad teams for the vast majority of his career. After getting a taste of a winning environment last season, however, I expect his strong, focused play to continue as Memphis continues to climb the standings. 生涯大多数时间,蓝道夫都在一支烂队拚命刷漂亮数据,但现在有所不同了,他刚刚 嚐过了胜利的滋味,所以我认为,这会激励他继续努力,带领灰熊取得更多的胜利。 杨: Good Z-Bo. The one that puts up a double-double just by putting on a uniform. He's past all the issues that held him back in Portland, New York and Los Angeles, and you could tell he completely ate up the love he got last year. He's not going to backslide and lose out on all that now. 这是个一穿上球衣就能拿下20分10篮板的家伙,过去,他的场外问题阻碍了他在波特兰 、纽约和洛杉矶的发展;过去一年他所得到的爱戴,也许已经接近饱和了,但他应该是 不会再走回头路了吧。 4、大、小盖索,你更愿意得到谁? Which Gasol would you rather have: Marc or Pau? 亚诺维兹: Ah, the great "Sophie's Choice" question. With the Wilkins and Grant brothers, it was so easy! But Marc or Pau is a more complicated choice. The senior Gasol will earn $57 million over the next three seasons when he'll be 31, 32 and 33. Meanwhile, Marc will certainly receive a hefty payday in his first post-rookie contract. I'll go with youth over legacy -- but Pau can suit up for me anytime. 噢,这简直就是「苏菲亚的选择」嘛!如果是选威金斯(Wilkins brothers)和葛兰特 (Grant brothers)兄弟,答案很简单。但Marc和Pau就复杂多了。盖索未来三个赛季的 总薪资达到5700万美元,而且他已经30多岁了。与此同时,结束了新秀合约的小盖索 也许会得到不错的合约,但他还年轻,我会选择青春的肉体,但对我来说,Pau任何 时候都很合适这支球队。 克莱恩: Pau is a highly skilled player, but on this Grizzlies team, Marc brings more to the table. The Grizzlies were soft with Pau as the leader, while Marc brings a toughness to the court the city has never had before. He's also much younger than his brother, so he should be able to maintain this level or even improve on last season. Pau's best years are likely behind him. Pau技术更「牛逼」啊!但就灰熊来说,小盖索的作用更大。Pau做领袖的时候,灰熊 可说是软趴趴,而小盖索带来了强悍硬实的特质,他也比他哥年轻很多,他还可以 进步,而他哥看起来已经在走下坡了。 德费罗: Despite Pau's lackluster postseason and Marc's emergence, I'd still rather have the older brother given the stages of their careers. Let us not forget that only two seasons ago, Pau was winning a second straight championship and was viewed as arguably the Lakers' best player. 上季季後赛,尽管大哥很低迷而小弟大放光芒,但我仍然会选择Pau。别忘了只是在 两个赛季之前,保罗还赢得了自己第二座总冠军,当时可是有不少人认为他是湖人 最好的球员! 鲁勃: Marc. Coming off a career season, he gets the checkmark in most relevant categories. Younger, more affordable, bigger and a better defender. If you 're looking for offense, Pau is your guy, but as an all-around player, I'll stick with the younger brother. 当然是小盖索罗!经过上个赛季的洗礼,他找到了自己的位置。此外,他更年轻, 更经济实惠,防守也比他哥更好。如果你看进攻,Pau当然是好选择,但如果比整体 的话,我仍是会选择弟弟。 杨: I'd still want Pau. Marc is very, very good. He's younger and probably cheaper. But he's just not quite the player Pau is. With the age difference not being massive and with their paychecks probably not looking all that different eventually, you want the better player, and that's Pau. 我仍然想要Pau。Marc非常非常优秀,他更年轻,可能也更便宜,但他不是Pau那样的 球员,如果不考虑年龄和薪资因素,你想要的,总是更好的球员,那就是Pau。 5、2012年受限制的自由球员谁最需要续约,梅奥(O.J. Mayo)和亚瑟(Darrell Arthur) ,谁更重要? More important 2012 restricted free agent to re-sign: Arthur or Mayo? 亚诺维兹: O.J. Mayo is a dynamic player, but provided Gay can return to full strength at the wing, Darrell Arthur might be the more sensible choice. Arthur has emerged as an elite defender and quality offensive player with a reliable midrange shot. Winning teams need functional role players, and Arthur looks the part. Mayo still has upside but is trending downward in Memphis. 梅奥的确是个不错的球员,但如果盖伊归来,并且完全恢复之前的身手,那麽亚瑟 看起来就是更好的选择了。亚瑟防守出众,进攻也不错,还有一手中距离准度。一支 成功的队伍,就需要这种认份任命不贪功的绿叶球员,梅奥仍有提升空间,但他在 灰熊的前景,看起来并不是那麽妙。 克莱恩: Mayo was lost for most of last season trying to find his role on the team, but he is an extremely talented player who brings a scoring energy needed off the bench for the Grizzlies. However, Arthur is the only big man off the Grizzlies' bench right now. If the Grizzlies were to lose Arthur, it would be very difficult to replace him. With Xavier Henry, Tony Allen and Sam Young on the roster, the loss of Mayo could be masked more easily by the team. 上季大部分时间,梅奥在灰熊都没找到适合自己的位置,但他其实很有天赋,他的 得分能力可以让他成为灰熊的板凳暴徒,然而,亚瑟是灰熊板凳目前唯一的大个子, 如果灰熊失去亚瑟,会很难找到替代他的人,而目前球队还有亨利(Xavier Henry)、 艾伦和杨(Sam Young),失去梅奥的代价并没想像中那麽大。 德费罗: They are both good players, but I think Mayo plugs more holes for the Grizzlies than Arthur does. Mayo's ballhandling, shooting, defense and toughness give them a lot of versatility in their backcourt. He also provides the Grizzlies with swagger and a guy unafraid of the big moment. 这两位都是优秀的年轻球员,但我觉得梅奥可以带给灰熊的更多。他能控球、能投篮、 能防守、也很强硬,这让灰熊的後场组合多了很多选择,此外,他也不畏惧投关键球。 鲁勃: Mayo. But it wasn't an easy decision. Mayo is a polarizing player in NBA circles, but he's so young (23) it's tough to give up on that offensive promise. On a team in which scoring will continue to be an issue, Mayo's ability to spread the floor is needed. 梅奥。但这个选择可不容易!梅奥到了NBA过得并不顺,但他才23岁,这点就足以 让你很难选择放弃他,在一支进攻仍需提升的队伍,梅奥在攻击端的天赋能力是有 其重要性的。 杨: Mayo. The Grizzlies were dead last in the league in 3-pointers made last season and that really ended up being one of the biggest reasons Oklahoma City finished them off. The Grizzlies obviously want to beat you up in the paint but teams like the Thunder can just pack it and leave Memphis shooters open. After Lionel Hollins inserted Mayo into the starting five in that series, the Grizzlies were a new team. He's vital in not just scoring, but keeping some pressure off Z-Bo and Gasol. 梅奥。灰熊上季的三分已经烂到不能再烂了,这也是他们被雷霆击落的最大原因。 灰熊显然是靠内线打球的队伍,但雷霆可以放弃他们的外线大胆去收缩防守,这点 就让灰熊十分头痛。但当霍林斯(Lionel Hollins)将梅奥安插入先发阵容,灰熊就 完全不同了,他的作用可不只是得分,他可以为小盖索和蓝道夫释放更好的作战 空间。 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 灰熊并不是最近ESPN 5 on 5专栏中,唯一一支被讨论的球队 事实上,这个专栏从8月开始,就有一系列的单一球队话题讨论文 或许是因为今年小牛夺冠的关系,西南组成了打头阵的分组 以下是其他已经推出5 on 5球队的连结,欢迎其他球迷点阅甚至提供翻译 小牛:http://es.pn/pfBGVL 马刺:http://es.pn/nTzRAc 黄蜂:http://es.pn/nSDVbF 火箭的则是要等到晚一点才会出来 -- / \ U  ny  G   鹰 / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \   英囧 大囧宁 小囧宁 囧莫 囧利斯 囧杰斯 囧克 囧莱迪 囧-Roe --



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1F:→ IBelieveIAm :今年都打出来了 专家开始随风倒罗 08/06 00:45
2F:推 kimo6414 :专家就是拿来让球队打脸的阿 08/06 00:48
3F:→ hssz :超看好的,明年可能会爆起 08/06 00:59
4F:→ hssz :感觉是下一只马刺的味道,双塔+双锁+称职PG 08/06 00:59
5F:→ hssz :颇看好进西区决赛 08/06 01:00
6F:推 Lenny115 :推灰熊 可惜今年对手太强(? 08/06 02:13
7F:推 s955163 :黑哨太强 08/06 02:15
8F:推 blackdevil :如果GAY没有受伤 可能今年灰熊还没发现主打内线的优 08/06 02:30
9F:→ blackdevil :势@@" 多给GAY主打或许就没那麽强势说 08/06 02:31
10F:推 kingroy :全换合约才是困难的开端.. 08/06 03:06
11F:推 nisiya0625 :在挖个替补控卫就爽了 08/06 04:48
12F:推 leeblo :阵容留不留的住才是问题 08/06 05:09
13F:推 BayStars :借转灰熊版 谢! 08/06 13:31
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14F:推 Baltche:我也满在意mayo跟gay的去留 尤其是mayo 08/06 14:24
15F:推 key52011:感觉两人只能留一个 我的话会留GAY 08/07 02:50
16F:推 twsoriano:马甲兽流不留才是最关键的吧 08/09 20:05
17F:→ twsoriano:留下来就是超级禁区!! 优射手好找 好中锋全世界没几个 08/09 20:06







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