作者bolam (95 10 23步排入伍)
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标题靠中边锋 vs 靠边中场
时间Mon Dec 2 03:43:22 2013
这是个有意思的话题 !!
评级细节分析,上帝的左手已经分析的很精准且详细了,
找不到的版友请参 :
#1Ic2Q1rR
http://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/Hattrick/M.1385703041.A.D5B.html
鲶川的意见也很宝贵,请参 :
#1Ic8FdcO
http://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/Hattrick/M.1385726951.A.998.html
我这边来谈谈我个人的看法,以及TNP提供的意见
个人的看法 :
训练的过程,以及技能的分配姑且不论,
以位置本身的出发点,这两个位置的目的不同
靠边中场 : 牺牲一些中场换边路进攻
靠中边锋 : 牺牲一条边路的进攻换些中场
由於HT比赛战略之分析以及战略布置,90%以上是以中场评级以及优略作为出发点,
因此这两个位置的使用,其实出发点是看你的比赛的中场评级是否足够而决定 !!
以下是TNP大老Cat的意见 :
We usually train IMtW, WtM are more a position we use, but not a player type.
我们比较长训练靠边中场,而靠中边锋是个我们常使用的选择,
不过靠中边锋并不是一种球员的类型
IMtW are IMs with high W skill,
so they can be played towards the wing and will improve attack ratings more
than they lower their midfield contribution.
靠边中场是有不错边锋技能的中场球员,所以这样的球员可以踢靠边中场,
可以提升的进攻评级将会大於中场评级的损失。
While regular IMs have PS or DF or both high enough to boost attack or defence,
the IMtW has W high enough. High enough means,
we should aim at W13 at least, W15 would be ideal.
More than W15 would be too much, because of the skill drops,
and because it takes away training time from PM.
如同常规中场需要足够的传球或是防守,增加进攻或是防守评级,
靠边中场需要足够的边锋技能。
足够高的边锋至少需要独步天下(13级)以上的边锋技能,
而威力无边(15)级别的边锋技能会是比较理想的技能配置。
因为现在游戏引擎的设计,高於威力无边(15)级别的技能,技能会掉的比较高,
同时也是因为练训边锋技能,意谓着夺取了训练组织进攻技能的时间
Of course the IMtW can or should have some PS or even DF, too,
but not too much, as it takes away training time from the more important
skills (PM and W).
自然的,靠边中场的球员也需要一些传球和防守技能,不过不需要太多,
因为靠边中场的组织和边锋技能是最重要的部分
An ideal example for an IMtW is Wang Shifan,
who had PM18 W15 PS9 at the time he joined the NT.
PS is high enough to help, but not that high that the training took too long,
W is as high as possible without risking skill drops,
and all the rest goes into PM.
His PM should be as high as any other IMs skill level.
理想的靠边中场的例子是Wang Shifan (有机会我找出来他的训练过程),
当他被徵召进入NT时,他的技能是组织18级、边锋15级、传球9级。
这样的传球已经够高了,不过还没有高到需要花太多的训练周数,
边锋技能在不冒着很高掉技能的风险下,尽可能的练高(练到15级),
其他所有时间都拿来练组织进攻技能,组织进攻技能最好跟其他的中场一样高
The WtM on the other hand is a position that is only used for one reason:
To get a little bit more MF through giving up one attacking wing.
We use that position in U20 rather often,
but in NT, the difference in MF between a regular winger (PM15) and a
WtM (PM18) isn't too huge,
so it rarely pays of to sacrifice one attacking wing for that little
bit extra MF.
另一方面,我们只有一个理由去使用靠中边锋 :
当你需要透过小缝牺牲边路进攻换取中场评级的时候。
我们更常在U20的比赛中使用,在NT阶段,
一个常规边锋(组织15)和一个靠中边锋(组织18)对中场评级的贡献相差不会很多,
因此很少去牺牲一条边路进攻去换取这麽一点点多的中场评级 !!
But for that reason, we don't need to train someone as WtM,
because when we play a WtM, all we need is his PM as high as possible
(and a good offensive spec, ideally).
所以因为这样,我们不需要真的专心去训练一个靠中边锋,
当我们摆上靠中边锋时,我们看上的只是他的组织进攻技能,越高越好,
同时有个好的进攻特技更好
So usually we just use any good speced IM available to field as WtM.
所以通常我们摆上任何可以利用的中场,去踢靠中边锋,如果必要的话
We don't have anyone especially for the WtM position,
because of the limited number of players we can call into the team.
But if someone decided to call up an IM especially for the WtM position,
I would take a balanced IM (meaning, a little DF and PS, but both not too much,
and all the rest put into PM).
原则上,我们并不会安排特定的玩家训练靠中边锋,
因为这是很不经济的投资,同时因为国家队的上场名额有限,
不太可能徵召这样的球员入队,
不过如果未来的国教想要徵召靠中边锋,会建议选择徵召平衡型的中场球员
(有些防守和传球、同时有更多的时间训练组织)
A nice example would be Dai Yuanfeng,
who is quick and already reached PM18 at age 23.
It seems his owner only trains him in PM without any side skills,
which is rather bad for the player, but for this one position,
his spec and very high PM would be useful.
But that's purely theoretical,
because usually we won't call up any special player as WtM,
but just use the best available balanced IM.
Dai Yuanfeng是个很好的例子,他是速度特技同时23岁时已经到达组织18级,
他的俱乐部只训练他的主技能,完全不训练任何辅助技能,
这在现今的引擎并不吃香,不过这也是很好转练靠中边锋的好选择,
有足够高的组织技能以及适合的特技。
不过这只是理论上的纸上谈兵,因为我们不太可能徵召特别类型的靠中边锋入国家队,
更长的选择,是徵召平衡型的中场是比较好的选择
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