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这篇不是美媒新闻,而是版友PTT0000在RealGM尼克队版中一篇「如果林书豪离开尼克, 你会继续支持尼克队吗?」的讨论中发现的网友回文,原文请见http://ppt.cc/q@wE 这位GeetinitDone网友针对Kane2021落落长的发言有所回应,在Kane2021的留言里, 他觉得Lin将无法负荷纽约媒体和球迷所强加的高度期望,加上球团所着眼的不是他 的球技而是场外的商业利益,更会加速Lin的崩坏,因此没必要花中产把一位原本就 要被挥弃的球员签下……etc.。(有兴趣的版友可以去看原文,非常的长 = =) 而GeetinitDone网友以数据说话加上他对Lin的人格分析,虽然是一家之言, 但也许可以给大家更多思考的角度,还有他描写的纽约球迷生态,也有一针见血 的快感与趣味。 文中不免会提到别的球员,大家就放轻松别在意太多啦~同样的,翻译如有任何错误 请不吝指正 以下开始正文 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- By GettinitDone I agree to your post if Lin was just like most players who crumble under pressure. There are only a few players who rise to the occasion consistently. Not even LeBron James, 3 time MVP, can ignore pressure, he chose the easiest route in Miami rather than stay in Cleveland or go to New York. He avoids pressure of winning championship by himself. However Lin is not just like most players if you consider: 我同意你的观点,但前题是Lin真如你留言中提到那些不堪压力而崩溃的球员一样。 少有球员能够面对突发状况处变不惊,就算是3届MVP得主的LBJ也不可能无视压力……。 然而以下几点可以说明Lin和你提到的那些球员不一样: 1.) He's essentially a rookie this season, having never played significant minutes in Golden State. How do teams normally treat their talented/ prized rookies? In Cleveland, folks there tell their rookie PG: "you can take it easy Kyrie, we are not expected to win, take it easy, game by game, we want you to grow into superstar eventually, but we would understand and tolerate growing pains." To Irving's credit, he blossomed into a star quickly, but that was in a setting with little to no pressure with green lights to play through bad games. 1. 从在金州勇士队那少之又少的上场时间来看,本季其实可以算做是他的菜鸟年。 一般球队是如何对待那些有天赋/或奖项加身的菜鸟们呢?在克里夫兰骑士队,人们会 跟他们的菜鸟控卫Kyrie Irving说:「Kyrie放轻松,我们不会要求你每场都拿下胜利, 你只要一场一场好好打,在你最终成为超级明星球员之前,我们可理解并忍耐那些成长 过程中所必须付出的代价。」Irving也不负众望,迅速地成为耀眼的新星,但他在场上表 现不佳时,也不会有过多苛责。 In New York? "Jeremy, Toney can't play PG, Baron won't play for another month, cmon let's go, let's go, this is your ONLY ONE shot, show us what you got." Scored 25 pts against Nets. "Scored 25pts? Good, good, you're named starter next game vs. Jazz. We don't have Amare. Melo needs someone to give him the ball. We're gonna give you the ball a lot." Responded with 28 pts & 8 assists vs Jazz. And then went on the road to dominate Wall & Wizards with 23 pts & 10 assists. Returning home to face the Lakers game in a highly-anticipated, front-page NY Daily News, nationally-televised game 38 pts and 7 assists, and then Raptors with 27pts & 11 assists. And we know the rest. 那麽纽约的情况又是如何呢?「Jeremy,Toney打不了控卫,Baron要继续休养到下个月, 你现在就给我上场,这是你『唯一的』机会,让我们看看你的本事吧!」然後篮网那场 他拿了25分。「25分?唉呦,不错喔!下一场对爵士你是先发,阿骂不会上场,然後 需要有人给瓜瓜喂球,这一场我们会把很多球丢给你。」然後是28分8助攻。接下来客场 战巫师,击败John Wall拿下23分10助攻。第4场对湖人的比赛,在NY Daily News头版 报导、全国转播的推波助澜下,未开打就成为热门话题,而Lin狂砍38分7助攻; 对上暴龙继续拿下27分11助攻,而接下来的故事大家都知道了。 In small-market teams, he would have been their God, loved and protected. In NY, however God you are, it seems like the Knicks fanbase is still eager to dissect God with knives any chance it got. "Oh Jeremy was another player who was almost cut and desperate to prove he belonged in the L. He HAD to have those games to prove he belongs. He plays in desperation, he's nothing special. Anyone in his situation would have done the same." 如果这事发生在小市场的球队里,Lin一定会被当成神在拜,受到所有人的保护和热爱。 然而在纽约,就算你是神,在尼克的球迷群体里,只要一有机会他们无不争先恐後地拿 刀将你解剖得体无完肤。「Jeremy只是又一个工作不保、拼死要证明他有办法打NBA的 球员;他「必须」赢得那些比赛证明自己的能力。他一点都不特别,他只是豁出去打球 罢了,任何一位跟他面临同样状况的球员也会打出相同的成绩。」 But lost in the shuffle was they're forgetting the fact that Lin was essentially a ROOKIE thrown straight into FIRE, playing 40 MINUTES, playing BRUTAL lock-out SCHEDULE, playing for a coach who has lost his players, a coach who practically begged him to take the team, and he somehow did, rallying the team to 7 straight wins and playing with one of the most fun/ best camaraderie a team had this season, opposing PGs/ teams increasingly TARGETING and PHYSICALLY ABUSING him, playing in BIGGEST MARKET/ most HUNGRY/ IMPATIENT-PSYCHO-ANGRY/ WIN-HUNGRIEST FANBASE on earth with BILLIONS OF FANS WORLDWIDE (most being asians) expecting and hoping he would play well. No tolerance, no taking it easy, no growing pains like Cleveland nurtures Kyrie or even LeBron back in 2003. Just straight HELL FIRE. So, you're a rookie? So, we're New Yorkers, we DON'T CARE you're a rookie. You're a PG, you're young, so (we ASSUME) you CAN penetrate, pass, shoot, and do EVERYTHING for our team, we want to WIN NOW, we EXPECT NO LESS. New York acknowledges no rookies, New York only acknowledges players: g ood and bad. There's no excuse for "bad". Bad game against Heat, what bad player! Rookie? They don't even know the word. Play through mistakes?? No such thing. You're either Ewing or Curry... Frazier or Toney. 但被忽略掉的事实是,Lin这个可以算做是菜鸟球员的人是被硬生生的推上火线, 在封馆结束後的残酷赛程中,每场打40分钟,为一个兵源不足、几乎是求他带领球队 的教练打球,然而他不知怎麽的也做到了,重整了球队拿下7连胜,打出了也许是本季 最有趣也最有团队精神的比赛;对抗其他PG们/球队越来越明显的针对性打法与暴虐的 肢体压迫;他不但要面对全美最大的市场和地球上最没有耐心、疯狂又愤怒、对胜利 如此饥渴的球迷,还有数以亿计、对他寄与厚望的全世界粉丝(大部分是亚洲人)。 零容忍、也没有什麽「放轻松」,不会像骑士养Kyrie或2003年LBJ刚进联盟时一样接受 成长的代价,我们只是直接将Lin推入地狱之火。所以菜鸟又怎样?我们是「纽约客」 耶,我们哪管你是菜鸟还是老鸟啊!你是控卫,而且年轻,因此(我们想当然尔) 你「会」切入、传球、投射,为我们的球队付出一切,我们现在就要赢球,没有第二种 选项!纽约没在管菜鸟不菜鸟的,你只要上了场你就是球员--只有好或坏之差。 对於「坏」这个字没有任何藉口,对热火一战打不好,喔~这球员真烂! 菜鸟?我想他们根本不认识这个字。在错误中学习?没这回事。 Despite all typical New York PRESSURE/ ABUSE, he quietly had the most points (136) and assists (44) in any player's first 5 starts. More than Isaiah, Oscar, Magic or Stockton. And fanbase still wants 39 year old former (yeah that was 7 years ago) MVP Nash over him. 即便在所有典型的纽约式压力/摧残之下,他平静地在生涯5场先发中拿下136分 和44次助攻,比许多老前辈们的生涯首5场先发数字还要好,然而球迷们还是希望 39岁、7年前拿下MVP的飘发哥来取代他。 2.) He plays better when it matters most. It all went back to his first breakout game, and the "hidden" pressure that he faced without fanbase realizing the gravity of pressure that Lin had to face every game. 2.压力越大他的表现越好 让我们重回他爆发的第一场,让我们看看那些他曾面临的「隐性」压力。 - Against Nets: 25 pts & 7 assists while being fully aware that if he didn't produce he'd likely be cut on the same day. 2/5篮网:在彻底觉悟如果无法对球队做出有效贡献就会被裁掉的当天, 他拿下25分7助攻 - Against Jazz: 28 pts & 8 assists fully aware that he was named starter for the first time (pressure to perform), and FO still skeptical about Nets "fluke" game and still strongly considering cutting him. 2/6爵士:生涯首场先发(可想而知有表现的压力),高层仍怀疑他对篮网一役的爆发 只是侥幸,裁掉他的可能性还是很高,他拿下28分8助攻。 - Against Wizards: 23 pts & 10 assists, fully aware the Knicks went to him on every play with Melo/ Amare out. 2/8巫师:在没有瓜瓜和阿骂的情况下带领球队。拿下23分10助攻 - Against Lakers: 38 pts & 7 assists in his toughest test, front-page-news pre-game off the roof anticipation/ expectation wise and performance wise, fully aware that if he didn't play well he'd be labeled as any other player who has 3 breakout games and fades when it matters most. He didn't. 2/10湖人:到那个时候为止最艰难的一役,报纸头条、赛前对他超高的预测和期待, 他知道一旦打不好他就会被归类成那些只爆发3场然後像流星一样迅速消失的球员。 但是他挺了过来,拿下38分7助攻 - Then, in another nationally-televised Mavs game: 28pts & 14 assists with Marion, who had shut down Rubio and other opposing PGs for the 7-straight-winning Mavs on him all game. 然後是再一次的全美电视转播,2/20小牛:在全场紧迫盯人之下,拿下28分14助攻 - Against Bucks: 20 pts & 13 assists, and barked at Amare for not boxing out Ilyasova, who put in game-sealing tip in. The courage of a rookie to yell at a maximum-salary All Star veteran for failing to do little things that win games. 3/10公鹿:20分13助攻。为了阿骂没有防守住Ilyasova一个关键进球而咆哮出声。 一个菜鸟拥有对领联盟顶薪的全明星球员吼叫的勇气,这份勇气将能帮他赢得比赛。 - Against Pacers on the road: clutch free throws in 4th to seal win. 3/18溜马:抓住第4节的罚球机会带领球队赢球 - Against 76ers: 1-10 entering 4th quarter and straight ballin in 4th to win game. And it went on and on... 3/22 费城76人:前3节投10中1,第4节靠罚球奠定胜基。此外能说的还有许多许多…… Here's the thing, instead of feeling sorry for himself "I'm just a rookie, I'm not supposed to play at this level yet, they'd understand", he says "this is the level of play New York wants me to play, so that's the level I'm going to play." 比起为自己开脱说出:「我只是菜鸟,人们可以理解我的表现不如预期」这类发言, Lin说的则是「纽约期待我打出这样的水准,而我也同样如此要求自己。」 As they all say, if you can make it in New York, you can make it anywhere. He made it as a rookie. 人们都说如果你能在纽约成功,在其他地方也同样行。他以菜鸟的身分做到了。 3.) He has mad work ethic. He's too busy working out to notice pressure. 2:14 - "My biggest fear is coming back being as good, that's my biggest fear, I need to be a lot better, and make sure I am a lot better and a lot healthier, and that's my focus for the off-season." 3.他拥有卓越的职业道德。他会忙於训练而无视压力存在。 https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BAHTdxBzEGg
在以上这段访问中的2分14秒处他提到:「我最大的恐惧是我下一季的表现跟这 一季一样,我必须提昇球技让自己成为更好的球员,也必须让自己更健康,这是我在 休赛期间的重点功课。」 A lot of players would have said, "I had a pretty good year (14 points, 6 assists per game). My focus is just to get healthy now". Lin actually fears going into next season not improved. Few players have concerns if they do not improve in the off-season, let alone "fear". He pretty much makes improvement his priority. 很多球员会在季後访问时说:「我这一年打得不错(每场平均14分6助攻),现在的重点 是恢复健康。」Lin真的「害怕」下一季的表现没有进步,少数球员会担心休赛季中没有 进步,但还不至於到「恐惧」的地步。由此可见,他的确是把加强球技做为第一优先。 2:35 - Reporter: "what do you need to do to take that next step?" Lin: "A lot, a little bit of everything, I don't think I've mastered anything, first and foremost is my health, getting everything right, getting balanced in my body, getting everything healthy, becoming explosive, and then from there catch-and-shoots, passing, limiting my turnovers, reading the game, imagining the flow of the game, getting stronger, defense. I have had some highs, and I have also had my struggles that remind me how much further I have to go." 2分35秒记者问到:「你的下一个计划是?」Lin说:「很多,每个部份都要加强, 我不认为我现在有精通哪一个部分。首先、也是最重要的就是我的健康, 恢复正常状态,增加我的平衡感、变得更有爆发力,然後加强接到球就射的能力、 传球、降低失误、增加阅读比赛的能力、变得更强、当然还有防守的部分。本季我有 一些不错的表现,但同时那些挣扎与低潮让我知道我还有很大的进步空间。」 If you look at his response, I like that: 1.) It's a straight answer. That he already KNOWS the answer to that question. A lot of players would think the question in their head and come with answer a few seconds later. The reason why Lin already KNOWS the answer? He ALREADY planned what he needs to do to take that next step. 2.) I like that he went into details on the "plan", because a real plan is a summary of elaborate strategies. It just means Lin ALREADY has a real plan to take that next step. 关於他的发言,我喜欢以下几个部分 1.这是直觉性的回答,意思就是他已经知道问题的答案。很多球员会花上几秒的时间来 回答这个问题,Lin会答得这麽快就表示他已经计画好下一步了。 2.我喜欢他把他的计画说得如此详细,这表示他已经开始规画细节,只等待付诸行动了 Based on that, I know Lin is not only a hard worker, he's a smart worker. He has a vision of where he wants to be and how he needs to get there. You combined both into a genius, Kobe-like tireless gym rat. Like Arne Duncan, the guy who did Lin's 100 most influential Time entry said, "Contrary to what you might read, Jeremy, 23, is no overnight sensation. In fact, he achieved success the old-fashioned way: he earned it." He earned it on gym, and if he has game plan what to improve, he will surely become a better player. 有监於以上这些,我相信Lin是个勤奋而且聪明的努力家,他知道自己要到达什麽样的 程度,并且懂得如何提升自己。试着想像一个充满天份然後像Kobe一样都不会累 的健身狂吧。 如同Arne Duncan在Time百大推荐文中写到:「跟你之前所读到可能不一样, 林书豪(23)并非一蹴可几。事实上,他和所有的成功例子一样,他实至名归。」 (这部分节录自etintin版友的翻译,感谢) 他的一切成就来自健身房里的挥汗锻练,如果现在他有了明确的强化计画,他肯定会成为 一个更好的球员。 Have faith, kane, for if there was one guy who can stand up to New York pressure, based on 3 points I made above, I would have to say it's Lin. He has responded well to hype and pressure so far as a ROOKIE. And if there was one player who would not be driven mad to New York fans' unforgiving, absolutely conditional-love opinions, it would be Lin, for he cares not about people's opinions but his God's (this is coming from non Christian). 根据我以上提出的三个论点,拥有信仰和纪律,可以承受纽约式压力的男子,我想 就只有Lin。做为一个「菜鸟」,他已经证明在高度压力下仍能表现良好。如果要找 一个球员不会被纽约球迷那无情的、或是出自有条件的爱之下的批评而逼疯,那也 将是Lin,因为除了上帝他不会在意人们的意见(我可不是基督徒喔)。 --



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1F:推 jaykinki:推!!!! 05/19 21:38
2F:推 okting:写得好棒,感谢翻译 05/19 21:40
3F:推 fish2cat:谢谢翻译:) 05/19 21:40
4F:推 dalepp:非常感谢翻译!!! 05/19 21:41
5F:推 yun0215:推!!!!!感谢翻译!!!! 05/19 21:42
6F:推 yeaha0055:推 好文章&好翻译 05/19 21:42
7F:推 kerotamama:这篇只能大推 觉得好感动Q.Q 05/19 21:43
8F:推 hrmymeg:谢谢翻译 :) 05/19 21:44
9F:推 lomoC:谢谢翻译 很棒 05/19 21:44
10F:推 noral:谢谢翻译 这篇真的很棒:) 05/19 21:44
11F:推 ab32110:推 感谢翻译 好有爱的文章喔 05/19 21:46
12F:推 nrkrc:谢谢翻译!!:) 05/19 21:46
13F:推 sarahls:感谢翻译~~这篇很棒!!! :) 05/19 21:47
14F:推 bluesunflowe:感谢翻译!!这篇写的真棒~~~ 05/19 21:47
15F:推 JemyLin:推翻译 05/19 21:51
16F:→ silviasun:哈哈~我也觉得这个网友超有爱的XDDDDD 05/19 22:01
17F:推 lilactime:写得真好...QQ 感谢翻译! 05/19 22:01
18F:推 PTT0000:感谢si大的热情翻译!>////< 05/19 22:02
19F:→ PTT0000:说真的,当时我看到这个网友的留言时,都感动得快哭了! 05/19 22:02
20F:→ PTT0000:想像Lin是在怎麽样的压力与期待下打球,许多球迷根本不是 05/19 22:02
21F:→ PTT0000:以菜鸟的眼光看他,零容忍,没耐心,不像某些小市场球队, 05/19 22:03
22F:→ PTT0000:慢慢地呵护培养新秀成长~而他还能在球场上有这样的表现, 05/19 22:03
23F:→ PTT0000:真的很厉害,很厉害!我佩服他 05/19 22:03
24F:推 shinobilin:哭了~~~ 05/19 22:03
25F:推 ab32110:这跟总版某篇干篮哥报怨自己被太放大检视是一样的意思吧 05/19 22:05
26F:→ PTT0000:结果Lin打成这样,纽约还是有一群球迷想用Nash取代他 05/19 22:05
27F:→ PTT0000:说真的,替他感到委屈QQ(他自己可能不这麽想啦XD) 05/19 22:06
28F:推 wuling1001:推翻译 我相信Lin经得起考验 他的努力和抗压性超乎常人 05/19 22:06
29F:→ qfyjke54:我第一场看的是湖人那场 当时只觉得好厉害 压根没想到他 05/19 22:06
30F:→ PTT0000:ab大,就像这个作者说的,别的菜鸟会抱怨自己被放大检视 05/19 22:07
31F:→ PTT0000:可是Lin不会,他只会默默背负这些期待与压力 05/19 22:07
32F:→ wuling1001:啾咪我好想看你打球! 好想告白啊啊啊啊啊啊啊!!!!!> < 05/19 22:07
33F:→ qfyjke54:是在怎样的压力下打出来的......... 05/19 22:07
34F:→ PTT0000:湖人那场全国转播,纽媒拿他跟Kobe当头版,如果打不好, 05/19 22:08
35F:→ PTT0000:一定被笑是泡沫 >< 05/19 22:09
36F:推 spittz:喔喔喔喔喔喔翻译出来了~~~~~~~大感谢~~~~~~~~ 05/19 22:17
37F:→ spittz:还好啦,湖人那场不管是美国还是ptt乡民都觉得输正常,赢大 05/19 22:17
38F:→ spittz:赚....XD 05/19 22:18
39F:推 wuling1001:湖人那场应该是KOBE压力比较大 XD 05/19 22:19
40F:→ spittz:不过湖人打赢、暴龙绝杀後大家对他的期待就整个不一样了 05/19 22:19
41F:推 dalepp:那场赛前几乎一面倒的看输,只是输多输少:) 05/19 22:19
42F:推 qfyjke54:我整个就很迟钝完全没意识到对湖人38分是什麽意思orz 05/19 22:20
43F:推 osape:记得因为KB曾在MSG最高砍下60分,场均30分,他说过最喜欢在 05/19 22:21
44F:→ wuling1001:还记得媒体赛前标是是Lin Who? 赛完变 Kobe Who? 超妙 05/19 22:22
45F:→ osape:MSG打球(又有媒体关注又能赢球...)那场两大主力不在家 05/19 22:22
46F:→ wuling1001: 题 05/19 22:22
47F:推 yun0215:所有球星都喜欢去MSG打球吧...镁光灯照的很爽XD 05/19 22:25
48F:→ yun0215:大家都会爆气....XDDD 05/19 22:26
49F:→ osape:更正: 最高61分。尼克有一段时间没赢过湖人了... 05/19 22:31
50F:推 essendo:谢谢翻译 这篇真的很棒:) 05/19 22:34
51F:推 caremelsosad:谢谢翻译!! lin的心理素质真的是无价啊!!但纽约客真 05/19 22:41
52F:→ caremelsosad:的没有耐性等吧...orz 05/19 22:41
53F:推 inkbox:感谢翻译!! 这篇真该给纽约球迷看一看>"< 05/19 22:42
54F:推 edith19:翻译辛苦了!Lin的心理素质真的很值得称赞! 05/19 22:46
55F:推 plzsmile:感谢翻译!这篇太棒了~ Lin总是能将压力转化为助力! 05/19 22:52
56F:→ plzsmile:希望他能找到真正珍惜他才能的球队,这是他应得的!! 05/19 22:54
57F:推 DavidJam:这篇文真的分析的太透彻了..... 05/19 23:01
58F:推 kaoru0423:感谢翻译 超赞的一篇文 ^^ 05/19 23:05
59F:推 dadadeng:夭寿骨翻译的真好,我的确是希望他离开嗜血的纽约 05/19 23:18
60F:推 koenigii:辛苦了!!真的翻的很好!谢谢!原文分析精辟!!真的写得很棒! 05/19 23:19
61F:推 rebecca127:写得真好:) 感谢翻译 只有祝福Lin把压力全都变成正能量 05/19 23:24
62F:→ osape:NASH那一段我不太同意啦,我对NASH没兴趣,但当初RUMOR出来 05/19 23:25
63F:→ osape:也很多LIN迷(?)希望NASH来NY教LIN...只能说NASH魅力太强吧 05/19 23:26
64F:→ osape:NY球迷很多种类,LIN在G5是否复出,ESPN在NY街头访问尼克迷 05/19 23:30
65F:→ osape:每一位都以LIN的健康为优先。不必特别制造地区或球迷的对立 05/19 23:31
66F:推 nancyh:感动QQ 推这篇很好的论点! 也很感谢翻译! 05/19 23:36
67F:推 renie57:原作者写得真好,感谢翻译!!! 05/19 23:47
68F:→ javabird:其实我现在会不想要林待在尼克主要就是感觉这个队没耐心 05/19 23:59
69F:→ javabird:培养球员,要求高,一直希望拥有即战力,不容犯错或撞墙,看 05/20 00:01
70F:→ javabird:LF的得票率就知道. 05/20 00:01
71F:→ osape:LF投票是网路投票,没有限NY的IP,谁都可以投 05/20 00:02
72F:→ osape:但ESPN投票想要留LF的占大多数,不知道你说LF得票率是哪个ꜿ 05/20 00:03
73F:→ javabird:谁都可以投的结果反应地如此接近尼克的现实也可说明会投 05/20 00:03
74F:→ javabird:票的大多都是关心尼克的人.会来乱的不太可能. 05/20 00:04
75F:→ osape:但ESPN和NYPOST都想要LF留下来啊,所以你在说哪个投票??? 05/20 00:04
76F:→ javabird:没看最後结果,後来变了吗? 05/20 00:05
77F:→ osape:LF得票率一直都很高啊...是JR比较倒楣吧,G5打得不好就被骂 05/20 00:07
78F:→ osape:ESPN作者因为大家都要留LF还特别写一篇NYK如何留下LF的分析 05/20 00:07
79F:推 ab32110:JR挺倒楣是真的......不过LF有高吗??? 後来没去看 05/20 00:08
80F:→ osape:http://tinyurl.com/bqhuvjx 作者写文时有52%要留LF 05/20 00:12
81F:推 javabird:去看了espn的:54/46一半一半,不算高,先发中最低的,跟阿骂 05/20 00:13
82F:→ javabird:差不多了. 05/20 00:13
83F:推 faseno:谢谢翻译,我好喜欢^^ 05/20 00:13
84F:→ osape:现在也有54%,像LIN那样93%很难(13,000votes) 05/20 00:14
85F:→ javabird:这种比率应解读为球迷认为:可有可无. 05/20 00:14
86F:→ osape:但很多LIN迷也去投(我有投),要归为NY迷没耐性很牵强 05/20 00:16
87F:→ javabird:除了阿骂跟LF,其他先发都是八成以上了,刚好过半真不算高. 05/20 00:16
88F:→ osape:这投票没有地域限制,与其说NY没耐性,不如说尼克迷(含海外) 05/20 00:16
89F:→ osape:没耐性。 05/20 00:17
90F:→ javabird:Josh有八成赞同,连几乎没上场的大JJ都有六成,这样还不能 05/20 00:17
91F:→ javabird:解读成我说的那样,我只能说是跟你观念不同了,没话说. 05/20 00:18
92F:→ osape:量化研究要考虑样本来源,网路投票的样本来源复杂 05/20 00:19
93F:→ osape:没有地域局限,样本不仅限於NY,所以不能推论NY球迷 05/20 00:20
94F:→ etintin:观点不同吧 因为JJ和Josh本来就是板凳 也非第六人 再者是 05/20 00:21
95F:→ etintin:替补 可以分担先发 只要不要表现太差 都会希望留 05/20 00:21
96F:→ etintin:这时候用一句话来形容"能力越强 责任越大" 05/20 00:21
97F:→ osape:篮球和棒球球迷地域性不同,棒球好像比较有地区意识 05/20 00:22
98F:→ osape:篮球则是随球星转队而移动,总板有一篇篮球迷地域分布 05/20 00:22
99F:→ osape:西岸的快艇迷居然主要分布在东岸,真是非常有趣 05/20 00:23
100F:推 javabird:无所谓,有人认为纽约人有耐心,有人不认为,就这样而已. 05/20 00:23
101F:推 yatin:这篇真得好棒~谢谢翻译!! 05/20 00:23
102F:→ osape:我没有说NY有耐心,但我认为没有确实资料不必特别骂NY人 05/20 00:24
103F:→ javabird:这篇的作者也在骂纽约人吗?我只是说出我的看法,何况我相 05/20 00:25
104F:→ javabird:信对纽约人有这种观点的不在少数,何必说我骂人? 05/20 00:26
105F:→ osape:抱歉,修正一下:没有确实资料不必特别说NY人没耐性 05/20 00:28
106F:→ osape:ESPN的LF我也投了一票,那并不表示我认为LF可有可无 05/20 00:30
107F:推 javabird:这篇作者也没特别的资料,他也说了NY人"零容忍". 05/20 00:31
108F:→ osape:所以我并不很同意这篇作者观点... 05/20 00:31
109F:→ javabird:你可以跟我有不同的看法,但请不要跟我说什麽不要说,这是 05/20 00:32
110F:→ javabird:言论自由的世界,我可以有我的看法,请尊重! 05/20 00:32
111F:→ osape:我并没有针对你,我只是提出我的看法,也请你尊重,谢谢 05/20 00:34
112F:推 javabird:我没有不尊重你,我上面说了跟你观点不同,没话说,我可没要 05/20 00:35
113F:→ javabird:你不要说. 05/20 00:36
114F:推 ilovego:推翻译,这篇写得很感人,作者很有爱 05/20 00:50
115F:→ etintin:刚在看了一下 有我耶!!! 谢谢你和不客气 05/20 00:53
116F:推 sedna:翻的好棒!原作者还有一篇说林也许是联盟最佳四分卫的影音文 05/20 01:59
117F:→ sedna:整理的很好,s大有没有兴趣也转过来呀… 05/20 02:01
118F:推 fairysan:感谢翻译,文章感动的我看完都落泪,LIN是个进取的好球员! 05/20 02:18
119F:推 sharonsh:谢谢翻译....真的看得很感动.... 05/20 02:22
120F:推 mamimi:谢谢翻译,文章写得真好!!! 05/20 03:33
121F:→ wurenben:我觉得球迷还好,尼克都烂麽多年了..恐怖的是媒体 05/20 08:16
122F:推 tubryan:感谢翻译!! 05/20 09:25
123F:推 chin0505:大推!!!这篇是好文章阿 05/20 09:48
124F:推 ab12:NY挑战性很高,但我相信Lin会战胜NY、征服NY迷 05/20 10:02
125F:推 lsgkkll:看完只能给个赞! 05/20 10:10
126F:推 LinRo:感谢翻译,看得超级感动QQ 05/20 10:18
127F:推 figure8:这篇写的很好又好笑,谢谢翻译。 05/20 11:23
128F:推 wglbsw:感谢翻译 恐怖的是媒体+1 球迷的眼光还是雪亮的!!! 05/20 11:32
129F:→ wglbsw:LIN在勇士当吉祥物...期间 压力也不小 自我要求超大 05/20 11:32
130F:推 jojomickey2:好文~还是去别的地方打球比较好吧~武僧都说不一定先发 05/20 11:40
131F:推 kerotamama:再来推一次XD 这篇重点觉得是在讲啾咪的个人特质 05/20 11:42
132F:→ kerotamama:我也相信他不管去哪里打球 只要给他机会一定都会成功 05/20 11:43
133F:推 cow1231ya:好棒 Q_Q 我都快哭了!谢谢翻译^^ 05/20 11:46
134F:推 wylscott:神翻译!! 感谢~ 05/20 13:02
135F:→ hesione:其实不只是媒体 纽约这个城市就是这样 身为一个在这边生活 05/20 14:28
136F:→ hesione:一阵子的人 我只能说 这是一个伟大但是绝对残酷的城市 05/20 14:29
137F:→ hesione:虽然因为私心 希望lin能留在这里 但是另一方面 我也感到不 05/20 14:30
138F:→ hesione:忍... 能在这里生存的 都得有超乎常人的坚强心智 05/20 14:31
139F:推 stbl:说得真好 希望Lin离开这可怕又残忍的纽约...没这麽多镁光灯 05/20 14:39
140F:推 goury:纽约球迷很可怕,但纽约尼克球团更恐怖 真的... 05/20 14:45
141F:推 goury:同样是镁光灯焦点宁可他去LA Lakers。Kobe再独也没两三年了 05/20 14:54
142F:→ goury:刚好Lin可以趁这几年练功成长,最後接下LA的镁光灯焦点啊 XD 05/20 14:55
143F:→ yun0215:湖人薪资空间能解决的话再说吧XD 05/20 14:58
144F:推 khiphop3:真的觉得LIN如果转到别队或许会有更好的发展机会 05/20 15:30
145F:→ khiphop3:纽约是个吃人的地方阿 看看受伤就被踢出去的大树吧 05/20 15:30
146F:推 ab32110:吃人的地方+1.....然後WALSH又被换掉了QQ 未来的补强让我 05/20 16:21
147F:→ ab32110:很担忧啊.....虽然也没啥前可以补了囧 只能签乐透了T^T 05/20 16:22
148F:推 suzan:很赞的文 感谢翻译~~ 05/20 17:16
149F:推 decanne:我觉得对Lin来说残酷的城市不是压力 不能打球才是压力 05/20 18:15
150F:→ decanne:感谢翻译 05/20 18:16
151F:推 Hrtbroken:感谢翻译 05/20 18:56
152F:推 heat0204:好文推~感谢翻译 05/20 19:31
153F:推 kwx3129:感谢翻译 05/20 21:21
154F:→ tuonela:大树..?想了想,是某棵尤加利树吗? 05/21 00:50
155F:推 guestfunfun:推~~~ 05/21 08:56
156F:推 Mentha:看到眼眶泛红...但是对於Lin的将来除了继续支持也无能为力 05/21 12:17
157F:推 nsmmsn:推 感谢翻译 05/21 12:24
158F:推 Miralles:赞!!!!!我要向他看齐!!! 05/22 00:09
159F:推 brennen:留在纽约也许不见得很坏,高压下成长的更快... 05/22 00:58
160F:→ brennen:作者也说了,Lin除了上帝的意见,其他的不重要...XD 05/22 00:58
161F:→ brennen:这可以让他更容易面对压力,真是有恩典的孩子... 05/22 00:59
162F:推 ashley1205:大推~谢谢超棒的翻译 05/22 09:03
163F:推 unoho:这篇好 05/23 08:03
164F:推 wasbwag:赞!!!原文好有爱,谢谢翻译^^ 05/23 22:44
165F:推 HarryYu:翻译的很棒,原文作者的观点也很棒,Lin加油! 05/24 10:37







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