作者puppetsgame (puppetsgame)
看板Jeremy_Lin
标题Re: [外絮] 鸟权上诉可能会影响或是延迟签约?
时间Tue Jun 26 22:54:00 2012
(修正原译的瑕疵)
Could free agency be delayed by the NBA's appeal of the recent Bird Rights
arbitration hearing?
NBA对本次鸟权仲裁提起上诉,是否会延迟自由球员市场开市?
It's possible. The NBA Players Association could request an injunction on
behalf of the players involved, including Jeremy Lin and Steve Novak, to delay
free agency until the appeal process is completed.
这是可能的。
球员工会可能(could)代表「所有受鸟权听证影响的球员」,包含 Jeremy Lin 与
Steve Novak,提出(延迟自由球员市场开市的)禁制令的声请,直到仲裁程序完
全结束为止。
The NBA's appeal could take weeks, possibly months, according to several people
with knowledge of the situation on both sides. A panel has to be assembled, the
sides have to present their cases and a decision has to be rendered after
review. This isn't something that comes together quickly and with July 11 --
the first official signing day -- just over two weeks away, there is little
chance for closure on this issue in time.
根据数名知悉双方情势的人的说法,NBA 的上诉会耗时数周、甚至可能数个月。
必须组成仲裁庭、两造都必须提出攻击/防御的理由,由仲裁庭检视後,才会得出
结论。这不是一个很快的程序,而且因为自由球员市场将於两周後的七月十一日
正式开市,本仲裁案几乎不可能在期限内做成最终决定。
The union would not want to open free agency without a resolution and,
privately, the Knicks would prefer to wait until they have a definitive answer
so they can execute the proper offseason plan. In the midst of an appeal, the
CBA says the Knicks need to follow the letter of the law until further notice.
That means they would have to use their Mid-Level Exception to re-sign Lin,
which could lead to them losing out on other impact free agents, such as Jason
Kidd or Lamar Odom.
球员工会不希望在「还没做成最终仲裁决定」之前让自由球员市场开市,而且尼克
私底下,应该也倾向於等待一个确切的答案,让他们可以好好地执行季後补强计画
。根据 Collective Bargaining Agreement的规定,在仲裁确定之前,尼克必须遵
守「CBA 的文意」(注);而这意味着,他们必须使用中产条款续签 Lin,让签下
Jason Kidd或 Lamar Odom这类,有影响力的自由球员的机会降低了。
==
注:本次两造攻防在两个字,「only」、「trade」。
CBA 明文规范:「只有」在被「交易」的情况下,鸟权才会随着球员移转。
如果对此条文做文意解释,Lin 等人是没有鸟权的。这是 NBA官方的立场:letter
of the law,合约字面的意义。
但球员工会的立场则是「合约精神解释」,认为鸟权移转的意义,在於保护非自愿
移转母队的球员;而在挥弃期、或特赦中被捡起来的球员,转移母队也是非自愿的
,所以应该与被交易的状况相同,保留鸟权。这是球员工会的立场:spirit of the
law,合约文字的精神。
==
What if the appellate panel upholds the decision of arbitrator Kenneth Dam? The
NBA would have a major controversy on its hands. Sure the Knicks may have their
MLEs back in play, but what if all their top priority targets were already
signed elsewhere?
万一上诉审的仲裁庭,维持仲裁者 Kenneth Dam 的原判断时,会发生什麽状况?
NBA 将面临极大的争议。尼克当然希望保留中产(译注:不要用在 Lin 身上),
但如果仲裁还没确定,自由球员市场就开市,而他们想追求的主要对象都被签走了
,尼克该怎麽办?
So rather than halt the free agency season while arguing over a definition (the
word "trade" as used in the collective bargaining agreement) and negatively
impact a franchise's ability to conduct business, the best case scenario for
everyone involved is for the NBA and NBPA to meet and negotiate a settlement in
this case.
所以,与其争执 CBA当中「交易」此字的定义,而延迟自由球员市场开市,对球团
经营造成负面影响,不如选择对所有人最好的方案:让联盟跟球员工会在此案达成
和解。(译注:联盟不要走上诉审程序,球员工会也不要提出禁制令的声请。)
One reasonable resolution could be for the NBA to grant the arbitrator's
decision be effective strictly for the 2012-13 season, if the NBPA accepts that
henceforth, the accepted rule is that Bird Rights transfer only via trade and
not via waivers.
其中一个合理的方案是:双方同意原仲裁结果,不再争执,但效力仅限於 2012-13
球季;如果球员工会同意,表示 2013 以後的鸟权移转,将真的仅限於「交易」,
而非「挥弃後捡起」。
It is such a rare case that we may never see this come up again anyway. Players
claimed off waivers don't usually develop a value where Bird Rights are an
issue. But this season the emergence of Lin and Novak have created such a
scenario, so a one-time exclusion may become the only time it ever comes up
again.
这麽做的理由是:反正这种案例太少,我们以後大概也看不到了。被捡起来的球员
,身价通常不会高到「让鸟权成为问题」,本季 Jeremy Lin 与 Steve Novak的出
现,才会有这种争议,所以这种「下不为例」,也可能不会有下一次了。
The NBA had the right to appeal the decision and followed standard operating
procedure. There is a dangerous precedent that could be set by this result
because it would open the door for other ambiguities in the CBA to be
challenged by the union. The league could not afford to shrug off the decision;
especially one that it felt was not an ambiguity.
NBA 有权上诉,并依照一般程序启动自由球员市场。如果本仲裁案成为先例,对
NBA 官方而言是危险的,因为这会让球员工会不断挑战 CBA规范中的漏洞。
联盟无法承担「有这种CBA 被挑战成功的先例」的後果,更何况联盟并不认为条
文规范中有漏洞。
The NBA feels confident about the appeals process, but as one league source
told me, "We didn't think we'd lose in the first place." The league fought the
Chris Dudley trade to the Knicks in 1997 and after it lost in arbitration --
coincidentally Kenneth Dam presided over that as well -- the NBA appealed and
the decision was upheld.
NBA 对上诉的结果有信心,但某位联盟的消息来源也说,「我们一开始也没料想到
会输」。
NBA 曾在 1997 年尼克队的 Chris Dudley 交易案中,与球员工会打过一仗;当时
联盟在第一审仲裁输了(巧合地,该案的仲裁员也是 Kenneth Dam),联盟选择上
诉,然後再输一次。
This time around, with so much uncertainty and too many variables, it seems
unlikely that this appeal will ever reach full execution. The sides simply need
to get together and, as they did so often six months ago, negotiate a
settlement.
但在这次,由於有这麽多的不确定性与变素,本次上诉不太可能会有「最终结论」
。双方应该尽快坐下来谈,跟六个月前做的事一样,谈一个和解方案出来。
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1F:推 yun0215:推P大!!! 联盟讨厌死Kenneth Dam了XDDDD 06/26 22:55
2F:推 javabird:感谢p大的精翻. 是说联盟未免也太轻忽仲裁了吧?! 明明知 06/26 23:48
3F:→ javabird:道仲裁官有过一次先例还不好好准备,联盟请的律师也太鸟了 06/26 23:49
4F:→ javabird:另我有疑问:有一说Novak不能享有鸟权,因为他的合约之前只 06/26 23:50
5F:→ javabird:有一年,这是不是也是鸟权的模糊地带?如果Novak因为这样没 06/26 23:51
6F:→ javabird:有鸟权,林明年,JR明年也不会有鸟权,因为换新合约了? 06/26 23:51
7F:→ yun0215:可是之前ALAN要LIN签一年底薪约时都说之後会有鸟权...@@? 06/26 23:55
8F:→ yun0215:应该只要在母队打满两年(不管是不是同张约) 应该就有鸟权 06/26 23:56
9F:→ yun0215:了吧@@? 06/26 23:56
10F:推 silviasun:感谢p大翻译!!!!专业又清楚!!!!!!! 06/27 00:04
11F:推 WongKarWai:推p大专业 06/27 00:07
12F:→ yun0215:刚去晃了一下Novak待过的球队...他的超混乱的= = 06/27 00:13
13F:推 javabird:整个搞不懂Novak的状况! 06/27 00:17
14F:→ yun0215:Novak好像是跟火箭签三年然後第三年被交易到快艇然後 06/27 00:25
15F:→ yun0215:第三年结束快艇跟他续了一年约...到第四年这里都还清楚 06/27 00:26
16F:→ yun0215:第五年Novak以自由球员的身分被小牛签下...(似乎是一年约 06/27 00:28
17F:→ yun0215:然後被挥弃被马刺捡起...打完马刺被黑八的球季 06/27 00:28
18F:→ yun0215:第六年马刺重新跟Novak续了一年约?然後马上被丢出去尼克 06/27 00:30
19F:→ yun0215:捡起来...应该是...这样(很不确定= = 06/27 00:31
20F:→ yun0215:也就是说他的合约不是跑同一张...也没在母队打满两年... 06/27 00:32
21F:→ yun0215:这样...到底是...= =? 06/27 00:32
22F:推 ab32110:好乱啊>< 偏偏最需要鸟权的是他@@ 06/27 00:57
23F:→ thianz11:既然反正这种案例很可能不再发生 联盟何不就让工会赢 06/27 01:31
24F:→ yun0215:因为CBA还有很多洞...联盟不可能让球员工会一直无限的 06/27 01:33
25F:→ yun0215:去挑战CBA...有一就有二...其实是会破坏双方的平衡点... 06/27 01:34
26F:→ yun0215: ^这样 06/27 01:34
27F:→ thianz11:就立法本意意旨实质 不拘泥文字来判比较符合潮流一点 06/27 01:36
28F:推 javabird:就算是就立法本意,像Novak那种状况还是搞不定啊! 06/27 01:48
29F:推 ab32110:NOVAK真的很可能白忙ORZ 他的情况好复杂 偏偏最在意的是他 06/27 02:28
※ 编辑: puppetsgame 来自: 114.34.108.34 (06/27 09:22)
30F:推 HarryYu:翻译大推,两造都有坚持的理由,就看下去吧 06/27 09:38
31F:推 essendo:大推p大! 这样看来,无论鸟权如何裁定,起码Lin留在尼克的情 06/27 09:53
32F:→ essendo:况几乎是确定罗 06/27 09:54
33F:推 gaudiron:推~~谢谢翻译 06/27 10:25
34F:推 leroialice:谢P大翻译唷 06/28 18:01