作者BSH99 (BSH99)
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标题[外电] 八级压尼能为尼克做甚麽?
时间Sat Sep 7 21:51:18 2013
What can Andrea Bargnani bring to the table?
http://ppt.cc/22~I
Fact: Andrea Bargnani hasn't shot above 35% from three-point range since
2009-2010. Another fact: He shot 29.6% and 30.9% from beyond the arc in each
of the last two seasons.
This would appear to be bad news. The Knicks gave up one of the game's best
shooters in Steve Novak for a non-rebounding, non-shooting seven-footer who
also happens to be allergic to defense. Oh, and he'll cost $11.8 million this
upcoming season and $11.5 million the following year, assuming he doesn't (he
won't) exercise his early termination option.
So what's the good news? There's that fresh start/less pressure/optimism
abound thing, which could work. But more reliable than some return-to-form
miracle is Bargnani's league-wide reputation -- meaning teams still regard
him as a knockdown shooter, even if he might not be. And this matters for a
number of reasons, but most importantly because he can actually space the
floor.
不得不说Bargnani从09-10赛季以後三分命中率就再也没超过35%了,他最近两个赛季是
29.6%跟30.9%。
这听起来可不妙阿,尼克可是为了他放弃全联盟最好的三分射手NOVAK,就为了这位要篮板
没篮板,要投篮没投蓝的7尺高个,更不用说他还很讨厌防守,最可怕的是他的薪水还有
两年2330万,当然这是假设他执行球员选项的情况,不过我想他应该会执行。
往好的一面想,在一个新的开始,压力较小,更乐观的环境,我想回光返照是有可能的,
更好的是Bargnani的确是联盟有名的射手,即使他可能不再是了,但他的确可以为尼克创造
进攻空间。
The One-Trick Pony Problem
What does that mean, exactly? A basketball team can't just stick shooters
around a great dribble-driver or isolation player; if the shooters are
incapable of other offensive moves, namely pump fakes and drives/pull-ups on
hard closeouts, weak side defenders guarding the shooters can cheat more
towards the strong side.
Think of it in terms of Steve Novak: A common misconception about his ability
to space the floor lies within how defenders guard him. We typically assume
that they just latch onto his hip and stay attached to him all over the floor
-- any kind of space and he's lethal. This is true, to some degree,
particularly when Novak is close to the ball.
Here's Novak on the same side as a Pablo Prigioni drive to the basket. After
Prigioni turns the corner on the pick-and-roll, both defenders get caught up
Tyson Chandler. There's now a gaping hole straight towards the rim, with only
Chris Bosh capable up stepping up.
Except he doesn't, because Steve Novak is his man, on the strong side and in
the passing vicinity. So Bosh feigns help defense, opting for a deterring
lunge towards the paint, followed by a quick scramble back. Prigioni walks in
for a layup.
Though we actively attribute this effect to Steve Novak, it's a common NBA
theme these days to shut down the three-point line instead of playing help
defense. Teams typically rely on weak side rotations to cover this void, and
would rather force penetrators to make longer and more difficult passes to
the opposite perimeter or corner. This is why the loss of Novak isn't
actually all that detrimental; the defense-siphoning role Novak fills can be
handled by any capable shooter.
只有一招的窘境
更准确地说,球队不能只在单打王身边布置一堆射手,如果这些射手不具备其他的进攻能力
,像是投篮假动作,被压迫时的急停跳投,对方这些防守射手的球员就能更好的去协防。
让我们谈谈NOVAK吧-NOVAK创造空间的方法就是站在外线,让对手不敢放他,一但给他
一点点空间都将是致命的,就某种程度来说,这点是正确的。
让我们看张图 图:
http://ppt.cc/A83T
NOVAK跟老普在同一侧,老普挡拆後往底角走,两个防守者跟着老钱了,现在老普能切进
篮筐,此时对手只有BOSH能协防,但BOSH没有去协防,他只是假装往三秒区移动,之後
继续看守NOVAK,因为他不敢放NOVAK在三分线空档拿球,所以老普上篮得分。
让我们用影片说明:
http://ppt.cc/-Wou
我们可以把这成果归功於NOVAK,不过现在的NBA更愿意守死外线也不选择补防,现在的球队
大多以弱侧轮转来补防,更愿意让传球者往另外一边走来做较困难的传球,这就是为什麽
失去NOVAK并没有那麽糟,在从另外一方面来说,NOVAK的防守能力我想很多人都可以补上。
But the real problem surfaces on the weak side. See here, when Novak is in
the opposite corner in transition (not pictured, but he's in the right
corner), while his defender, Donald Sloan, is light-years away.
Moments later, Prigioni fires a cross-court swing pass right into Novak's
arms. But Sloan recovers, despite having to cover a lot of ground, and Novak
hits him with a pump fake. Sloan flies by, and is actually behind Novak as he
begins his move towards the rim.
Except Novak can't capitalize on Sloan's momentum carrying him the wrong way;
his lack of explosion to the rim allows Sloan to reestablish position moments
later, eventually pushing Novak towards the sideline and an errant pass.
But the key, here, isn't so much Sloan's recovery speed as it is his recovery
effort. When you watch the play below, notice that he closes out at full
speed with no regard for a pump fake or blow by. Instead of closing out with
choppy feet to hedge against a move towards the basket, his only purpose is
to prevent a Steve Novak shot attempt.
And that's the Novak problem, in a nutshell. The inherent spacing value his
shooting brings is undermined by his inability to capitalize on overzealous
closeouts. Defenses know this, and actively run him off the three-point line
with full sprint closeouts and without consequence. And because they're
running at top speed, they can stretch their coverage distance. The result is
more help on the strong side, reducing the threat of a, say, Carmelo Anthony
drive. Novak's essential spacing purpose is rendered moot.
但更现实的问题时,让我们用另外一张图来说明 图:
http://ppt.cc/nf1F
看这张图,在快攻时NOVAK在另外一侧的角落(没拍到),而他的防守者Donald Sloan还在
好几光年远的位子。
图:
http://ppt.cc/aF0G
老普很快地把球长传到NOVAK手上,虽然距离很远,但Sloan还是跑过来了,这时NOVAK虚晃
一招,Sloan马上就被骗开了,NOVAK同一时间向篮框前进,但因为NOVAK的爆发力不足,
Sloan很轻松的再次追上NOVAK,并迫使他跑出边线,传球失误。
这里得要称赞一下Sloan的防守真的很积极,你自己看一下影片,你会发现Sloan根本不在乎
被骗开,因为他只要追上NOVAK,并让他没有选择远射,他就达成目的了。
影片:
http://ppt.cc/22~I
这是NOVAK的问题,因为他无法好好利用这种积极的贴身防守,导致他的拉开空间效果,
没想像中的有效,防守者也知道他这个弱点,所以会拚死的贴身防守他,只要是积极地冲
过来防守就好,由於他们是全力跑过来,他们能扩大防守范围,加强强侧的协防,也能减少
尼克强侧的进攻,像是瓜的切入,这也让NOVAK的拉开空间能力变得无用武之地。
Enter Andrea Bargnani. Say what you will about his offensive repertoire, but
at the very least he's fully capable of punishing defenders who rush towards
him too quickly.
Because he's more than a spot-up shooter, defenders play him differently --
or at least treat him as a viable threat in other offensive functions besides
standstill shooting. That's what Louis Scola does here, trying (and failing)
to close out with choppy steps to prevent a drive.
And the benefit of this defensive technique is two-fold: First, that Bargnani
-- should he receive the ball on a swing or kick out -- will actually have
room to shoot, with defenders closing out more cautiously. And second, that
Bargnani can actually, well, drive the ball to the basket and make something
happen.
现在我们能说说 Bargnani了,你可以对他的进攻有很多种意见,但至少他能让那些全力
冲向他的防守者感到後悔。
看看影片:
http://ppt.cc/C3TT
因为他不只是个定点射手,防守者需要注意他的多种进攻武器,这就是四科拉在做的,
四克拉尝试阻止他用脚步切入,但失败了。
这有一些好处,Bargnani在接到传球後可以让防守者对他更加谨慎,他能有空间投篮,
也能靠切入来确实得分。
How else can New York utilize Bargnani?
The constant comparisons to Steve Novak aren't mean to undervalue Bargnani's
role; it's that in the Knicks offense, he'll never serve as a primary scoring
option -- either on the first or second unit. But in the Novak role, Bargnani
can be much more effective than Novak ever was.
With one caveat, though: as long as the Knick use him as a power forward or
center. Bargnani's value isn't relative to his shooting; it's relative to his
size as a shooter. Because he's seven feet tall, opposing defenses will be
forced to use power forwards and centers to guard him. If he lingers on the
perimeter, he can draw out basket-protecting bigs into uncomfortable
perimeter territory and reduce the defense's dribble-drive help capabilities.
This is what Mike D'Antoni used to revolutionize the league, and is "small
ball" in its most literal sense. Four wing players around one big, spacing
the floor and stretching defenses. But the "stretch" four isn't "stretch" if
he's not being guarded by a big.
This is especially key in pick-and-roll situations. The Knicks have avoided
Guard-Novak pick-and-rolls the last two years because Novak isn't a
particularly strong pick-setter. Here, he starts setting a pick on Nic Batum
well before any contact is even possible. Batum uses the extra moment to
slide under the screen, and Novak begins releasing before Batum has even
moved past his shoulder.
The early movement collapses the viability of the play. Because Novak is
already on the move, Luke Babbitt and Batum don't have to choose between a
well coordinated switch or a hedge-and-recover that could leave JR Smith with
a lane to the rim. The lack of tight spacing allows an easy hedge, and
Babbitt is in Novak's face as he catches the pass and releases the three.
Novak's tendency to slip the screen and scramble to the three-point line a
bit early ironically hurts his three-point shooting opportunities, because it
refocuses the play from an option (drive or pass) to an obligatory pass --
once again, making it easier to defend.
尼克能如何使用Bargnani?
Bargnani在尼克不会是第一攻击点-不管是先发或替补都不会是,但他能做到的绝对比
NOVAK还多。
如果尼克让Bargnani打PF/C,要知道Bargnani的核心价值不是投篮,而是他是7尺射手,
因为他够高,所以对方不得已也要派高个来守他,如果他在罚球圈,就能把那些门神拖出来
降低他们协防的能力,这就是冷笑话风靡全联盟的小球战术,四个侧翼球员搭配大个子,
拉开空间撕裂防守,但是如果你不能把大个子拖出来,那甚麽都不用说了。
让我们看看这张图 图:
http://ppt.cc/DEQW
尼克上赛季其实很怕後卫跟NOVAK打挡拆,因为NOVAK不是很好的掩护人员,他一开始能做得
不差,完全把巴顿卡在後面,但他太早移动了。所以没造成拓荒者防守上的慌乱,可以不用
协调换防,直接压迫JR,就算JR把球传给NOVAK,巴顿也能及时赶上。
NOVAK这种提前往三分线跑的习惯,却反而让他更不容易有投三分的机会。
影片:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ijwo8exl7ko
Bargnani, at least, is a much more effective pick-setter -- simply because
he's taller and wider, and but also because he tends to hold his picks a tick
longer. That extra split second ensures contact on screens, and the requisite
room to corner defenders into a difficult decision.
His contact on this play with Orlando Johnson forces a hedge, bordering on a
switch.
But the key is the extra half-second Bargnani holds the screen. Because he
locks up Johnson, it leaves Tyler Hansbrough in a difficult situation: switch
and succumb to a terrible mismatch, or hedge and risk the possibility that
Orlando Johnson won't recover in time.
Instead, both players fly to Amir Johnson, who receives the next pass, and no
one sticks with Bargnani, who cans the jumper.
在掩护这块,Bargnani就好多了,因为他更高,也更宽,而且他掩护的时间也比较久点
这点差别,将会让防守者陷入迷惘。
图:
http://ppt.cc/THmW
像这样,他让汉堡不知道该错位换防,还是冒险去补防。
影片:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XF7Dn9h7JSk
所以他成功地让这两名防守者都扑出去了,而且还没人守他。
Other possible Bargnani Sets
It will be easy enough to integrate Bargnani into the triple pick-and-roll
and Horns sets the Knicks relied on all season; his versatility allows him to
fill various roles in multiple play types. But part of the problem the Knicks
ran into at the end of last season was a lack of creativity on the offensive
end of the floor -- too many isolations, too many straightforward
pick-and-rolls, not enough decoy and secondary action. Here's a play that
might solve that problem, with the following second unit lineup that we might
see this season:
1 - Pablo Prigioni
2 - Beno Udrih
3 - JR Smith
4 - Andrea Bargnani
5 - Tyson Chandler
The screening sequence under the basket could possibly free up either Udrih
or Smith for a three-point shot, but its real purpose is to get their
defenders leaning towards the perimeter and away from an interior help
position. That way, when the Prigioni-Chandler pick-and-roll happens, there's
room to operate.
And then there's the Bargnani kicker: because opposing bigs would likely hang
back to guard against the Chandler lob -- Knicks points guards don't
typically incite fear with their pull-up jumpers -- the Bargnani back screen
can free up that lob. Meanwhile, Bargnani can slide to the top of the key for
a shot, should both defenders get sucked under the rim. Other teams would
likely need a guard to set that screen in order to create a credible pop, but
that's the Bargnani advantage: the size of an effective screener, the skills
of a guard.
Ultimately, Andrea Bargnani won't figure much into the Knicks' offensive game
plan. But if New York can properly exploit what he does bring to the table,
he can certainly bring value to a potentially more innovative and potent
second unit.
其他安排
总之要让Bargnani融入尼克体系并不难。尼克上季的缺点是单打太多,挡拆打得太简单。
如果像这样排
1.老普 2.立群 3.JR 4.八级压尼 5.老钱
影片:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G1PlbwE_cs8
这一系列的掩护可以让立群跟JR跑到三分线有投射空间跟机会,或是把他们的防守者拉出来
并让老钱跟老普有空间挡拆,此时八级压尼将发挥作用,对方会怕後卫吊高球给老钱,
尼克後卫跳投时也不用太慌张,八级压尼可以来帮挡,也能溜到罚球线顶部来偷偷跳投,
这将会让对方的两位大个子感到很难受,这就是八级压尼厉害之处-好的掩护身体条件
,後卫般的技术。
虽然他应该不会在尼克进攻中占太重要的角色,但能适当地使用他,他将能为尼克做出贡献
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1F:推 julian0203:照这样看我们可以对新球季的进攻放心一点了 09/07 22:34
2F:→ jerrystarks:NOVAK老是要退到3分线才出手,防守早压上来了 09/08 00:01
3F:→ jerrystarks:他如果肯在3分线内1.2步直接投篮会更难防守 09/08 00:02
4F:→ jerrystarks:Bargnani光是拉开防守就受用无穷了 09/08 00:04
5F:推 skymay:推 09/08 00:46
6F:推 osape:巴尼亚尼的作用肯定Novak来得大,问题在於他的伤病 09/08 08:30
7F:→ osape:如果他能保持健康,那下季就可以放心很多了 09/08 08:31
8F:推 sherry821224:推 09/08 11:07
9F:推 nykah20:老钱搭高塔射手?好熟悉的前场组合... 09/09 18:38