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标题[外电] For Knicks,Spacing Out Is a Good Thing
时间Sat Nov 16 11:57:39 2013
For Knicks, Spacing Out Is a Good Thing
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Posted on November 15, 2013 by Taylor Armosino
Last season, New York’s third-ranked NBA offense was fueled by small
lineups, great floor spacing and record-setting three-point shooting. Through
the first few games of this season — in some cases due to necessity, if not
by design — the formula had changed. Canadian import Andrea Bargnani was
inserted into the starting lineup and Carmelo Anthony was pushed back to his
natural small-forward position. Predictably, Bargs struggled to fit within
the framework of the offense and his teammates struggled to adjust to him. He
wasn’t effectively spacing the floor and teams were sagging off of him to
help defend other players, mostly ‘Melo. New York’s offense had no
identity, no floor spacing, and no results. The Knicks were not generating
good three-point attempts, opting instead for a dearth of long-twos,
post-ups, isolations and turnovers. If numbers are your thing, New York
scored just 90.2 points-per-100 possessions with the
Anthony-Bargnani-Chandler trio on the floor.
上个赛季尼克用全联盟第三凶猛的火力打出漂亮的小球球风,极棒的空间运用,创纪录的
三分球数,但在本季初的几场比赛,有些时候打法已经改变了,巴格压尼的加入,让瓜重
回三号位,但如同预料的一样,巴格压尼挣扎於融入体系,而他的队友也为了适应他持续
调整中,巴格压尼没办法有效地拉开空间,大多时候,"melo"就是尼克的进攻代名词,没
有特性,没有空间,没有结果的进攻,尼克无法打出有效益的三分,反而出现一堆长距离
二分球,单打,低位,失误。看看这数字吧,瓜巴钱在场时,尼克本季每100回合才得
90.2分。
In order to demonstrate just how effective last year’s offensive strategy
was for New York, I compiled the top ten teams in both three point shot
attempts and mid-range shot attempts during the 2012-13 season. Not
surprisingly, those teams with better offenses tended to shoot a lot of
threes. In a nutshell, good offenses shoot a lot of threes and bad offenses
shoot a lot of mid-range jumpers:
为了证实我说的,那你们看看去年尼克的进攻是多麽的有效。
这是2012-13赛季中十个队的三分球出手数跟中距离。
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http://ppt.cc/AYTd
That’s not to say that the mid-range game is useless in today’s NBA. It’s
not. Running action through the elbow is a common and effective way to run an
offense, and sometimes it results in a long-two being an open look that
shouldn’t be passed up. Players like Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant have made
careers out of being deathly efficient mid-range shooters, but their lethal
approach puts them in the vast minority. (If the current trends continue, in
time, defenses may actually force teams to become more proficient at
mid-range shooting, but that is conversation for another day.)
我并不是在说中距离在nba已经逐渐的无用武之地了,而是应该透过有效的跑动使用肘区
来运行进攻,有时候有空档的长距离两分球是不该放过的出手机会,就像KG或KB这种有名
的中距离射手,但在联盟中他们毕竟只是少数。(如果目前的风气继续下去,假以时日,
目前NBA的防守策略会让更多球队更加熟练中距离投篮,不过那是未来的事了。)
Since Tyson Chandler went down with a broken leg in game four of the season,
New York’s offense has been much, much better. Coach Woodson has been forced
to play smaller lineups with Anthony at the four and Bargnani starting at the
five. Both have been more productive offensively, and their production has
positively impacted the rest of the team. Why? It’s the floor spacing and
shot selection, Stupid! With Bargnani’s ability to shoot from the outside,
the Knicks have been able to play a 5-out offense, similar to what we saw
last season when Chris Copeland filled in for Chandler at center. The spacing
has transformed from this:
当老钱伤退後,尼克的进攻变得更好了,武僧被迫用小球阵容,瓜四号,巴格五号。
这让他们打出更有效益的进攻,为什麽会这样呢? 这就是空间运用跟投篮选择的影响吗,
当巴格有能力在外线投篮时,尼克场上拥有五位可以外线投射的球员,就像是我们上赛季
看到CC替补老钱打五号位的情况一样。
就像这样 本季对公牛:
http://ppt.cc/lrpT
变成这样 本季对老鹰:
http://ppt.cc/PC4-
Though New York’s three-point attempts have only increased slightly over the
last four games, they have hit those shots at a much higher percentage
(37.6%, up from 29.9% with Tyson in the lineup). Freed from the shackles of
poor early season spacing, Anthony and Bargnani, in particular, have thrived.
For ‘Melo, it’s simple. He is a power-forward who’s at his best when he
has room to get into the post or to drive to the rim. He’s also a lethal
spot-up shooter, but prior to the Woodon going back to small ball, Anthony
wasn’t getting good looks with the Knicks unable to space the floor and
create lanes. Without space around him, Anthony settles for far too many
outside shots and isn’t nearly as effective as a scorer. This, and we have
nearly two season’s worth of incontrovertible data that proves Carmelo to be
a dominant offensive force when he is playing power-forward. With many teams
league downsizing to smaller lineups, Anthony is perfect in the role, too.
虽然尼克的三分球出手数只比前四场多了一些些,但是他们的命中率已经从29.9%上升到
37.6%了。
尼克已经从一开始的空间运用不佳慢慢挣脱出来了,尤其是瓜跟巴格压尼。
这对於瓜来说是很简单的事,当他打四号位时,他有绝佳的空间来单打跟切入,他同时也
是个致命的跳投射手,但当武僧要求瓜回到三号位时,上述的优势全都没了,尼克拉不开
空间,反而让瓜有更多无谓的外线跳投,让他的效率低落,从这点来说,不得不承认瓜打
四号位的进攻统治力,是全联盟打小球的球队都梦寐以求的,瓜在这位子上是完美的。
For his part — and I know, small sample size, but — Bargnani has been
reborn playing center for the Knicks. He is playing like a man possessed. Now
shooting over 50% on the season and 44.4% from three, New York’s improved
spacing has done wonders for his game. Schematically, Woodson’s Knicks
prefer to deploy the center as the primary screener in the offense, so
naturally Bargs has been much more involved. His ability to pick-and-pop puts
defenses in awkward spots, and with smaller Knick lineups forcing opponents
to match-up, has often found himself facing smaller defenders who cannot deal
with his jumper. He also has the unique ability for a man of his size to put
the ball on the floor and create for himself, something that should continue
to come in very handy with more space for him to operate. Without clutter in
the lane and mid-range area, Bargnani can also unleash his excellent
pump-fakes.
至於巴格压尼,我知道样本数还太少,但是巴格压尼在尼克浴火重生了,他根本走火入魔
了,现在他命中率高达50%,44.4%的三分命中率。尼克的空间运用变得如此好,有很多
都是他的功劳,武僧的尼克在进攻上更倾向於让中锋作为主要的掩护者,这让巴格压尼
更具影响力,他能打P&R,也能P&P,当尼克使用小阵容时,会迫使对手用更矮小的球员来
对位他,而小矮子是无法阻止他的。
巴格压尼并不是只会跳投尔已,他也是个能够运球切入创造机会的大个子,有时候他会
自行创造更多的空间来得分。
就像这样
影片:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fsoXhgv8Mlw
With the offense seemingly headed in the right direction, it will be critical
for the Knicks to maintain the recent improvement in spacing and shooting
after Chandler returns. The obvious way to do that is move Bargnani to the
bench and to start Anthony at power forward alongside Chandler, though it
remains to be seen if the coach will see the light. Splitting up Bargnani and
Anthony can actually be a good thing. We all know that the duo cannot survive
together defensively over the long haul, anyway. When Chandler is on the
floor, he is always going to be the primary screener and Bargnani isn’t
great playing off the ball. Woodson’s offense is at its most effective when
it forces defenses to choose between collapsing on Chandler or staying put on
outside shooters. Unfortunately, Bargnani doesn’t fit well in that structure
because he doesn’t have a natural feel for spacing, often drifting into the
paint where he is comfortable.
看起来尼克的进攻正走在对的方向,如果在老钱回归後尼克仍能保持这样的空间运用跟
投篮选择,那尼克将是非常致命的球队。
目前看起来最好方法就是让巴格回归板凳,瓜四号,老钱五号。
把瓜跟巴格压尼分开使用未尝不是件好事,我们都知道他们两个同在时的防守...呵呵
而当老钱在场时,老钱会成为主要的掩护手,而巴格压尼不善於无球打法。
武僧的进攻被迫要从因老钱而降低进攻效率,或是因老钱缺席而防守破洞两者中做出抉择。
不幸的,巴格压尼看起来是无法融入体系,因为如果他没有好的空间的话,就会经常在
油漆区附近徘徊当游魂。
Sure, it was only four games, but early on we saw defenses leaving completely
Bargnani open in favor of collapsing on Chandler or double-teaming Anthony in
the post. The Knicks would be best served by getting Bargs the ball at the
elbows or as a screener, and as a high usage bench-big, he would have more
opportunity to be in those situations without mucking up the spacing. On the
defensive end, Bargs has shown himself to be a passable post-up defender, but
the rest of his D is positively atrocious. In Chandler’s absence, New York
has had virtually no pick-and-roll defense, and it’s been a practical layup
line for the opposition when Bargs is on the floor. That said, with Bargs
coming off the bench, Woodson can deploy Kenyon Martin at power
forward/defensive anchor or, in the alternative, Metta World Peace, who can
provide a boost for the offense.
当然,尼克的瓜巴钱才打四场,当我们已经看到防守是如何的崩溃,瓜又是如何地在低位被
疯狂包夹。
尼克最好的办法就是让巴格压尼在肘区活动,让他当主要的掩护手。当更有效的板凳杀手。
在这些情况下,巴格压尼不用去担心空间运用问题,而在防守端,巴格压尼也证明了自己
勉强是个合格的"低位"防守者,但其他部分则是...悲剧。老钱的缺席,让我们看到尼克
基本上没有对应P&R的防守能力,当巴格上场时,场上尽量要有K骂或阿平这种球员来帮他
擦屁股。
Going forward, fans will have to hope that Woodson doesn’t continue to go
against what works in favor of experimenting with lineups that do not. If he
chooses to roll the dice on the Anthony-Bargnani-Chandler trio, the Knicks
will likely struggle. But if he does what works best – playing small lineups
and using Bargnani as more than a spot-up threat – this offense can be
really good again. New York — despite last night’s loss against Houston —
is finally starting to show some signs of life and there is no reason why
the offense cannot be as dangerous as it was last season. The formula for
success is there, Woodson just has to be smart enough to use it.
当然,我想球迷也希望武僧不要在实验阵容了。
如果他选择继续练瓜巴钱,那尼克可能会继续挣扎,但如果他决定要打小球球风,并让
巴格压尼有更多的威胁,这看起来将会是个不错的选择。
尽管昨天输给休士顿,但至少尼克让我们看到他们有复活的迹象,毕竟这套打法在上季已
证明过他是有效的,希望武僧聪明点,打小球战术吧!
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有错要告知一下喔~~~
话说巴格这几场效率真的....不错,在这麽维持下去,我看我准备进医院维修一个月了Q.Q
PLAYERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A +/- OR DR TR AS PF ST TO BS BA PTS EFF
Bargnani C 32:58 9-12 3-3 3-4 + 7 3 1 4 0 5 0 0 1 1 24 25
Bargnani C 30:59 8-15 2-4 2-2 + 6 4 7 11 2 2 0 1 1 1 20 26
Bargnani C 26:01 5-10 1-2 5-6 -26 0 1 1 0 2 0 1 0 0 16 10
Bargnani C 34:48 11-25 3-9 0-0 +14 3 5 8 3 1 0 1 5 1 25 26
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1F:推 mywu:BSH大以後要比赛前冰块要准备好隔天冰敷肿肿的脸阿 XD 11/16 12:01
2F:→ jerrystarks:拳王中距离能持续进步的话,放瓜巴钱一点问题都没有 11/16 12:28
3F:推 knicks8888:照现在看来Bargnani最擅长的是中距离 11/16 13:01
4F:→ knicks8888:在比赛初期就必需一直喂给他中投的机会 11/16 13:02
5F:→ knicks8888:投顺了三分的把握性跟机会也会渐渐出来 11/16 13:02
6F:→ knicks8888:我认为双塔加瓜是可行的 11/16 13:03
7F:→ knicks8888:不过内线还是得补人 11/16 13:03
8F:推 kuchibu:状元进攻就是要能做给他啊 他是有自信的球员 11/16 13:20
9F:推 MrRedHair:虽然melo打四号真的很累 但不得不说他根本就是这块料 11/16 13:25
10F:→ MrRedHair:只是自己没自觉 11/16 13:25
11F:→ BSH99:双塔加瓜 前提就像J大讲得要老钱的中距离有威胁才有效 11/16 13:28
12F:→ BSH99:不然巴格依旧会在外围徘徊当游魂或瓜不断的外线投射看天吃饭 11/16 13:30
13F:推 ILNARA:真的要被定位4号位了... 11/16 16:10
14F:→ ILNARA:其实过去melo超快第一步还在的时候 在SF强度胜过现在XDD 11/16 16:11
15F:→ ILNARA:只是melo打4号位 不是不行 只是如果他再高个2-3寸更适合.. 11/16 16:12
16F:推 Jefa910:BSH大大 可以靠右边一点吗 你的脸挡住这篇文章了 11/16 16:33
17F:推 skymay:快帮Melo找个替补吧,他都当持久王不知道多久了,他不是生 11/16 17:57
18F:→ skymay:化人阿 11/16 17:57
19F:推 jayelva:不太懂为何瓜打四号位有优势,是因为能切能投吗? 感觉这 11/16 18:12
20F:→ jayelva:篇文章更着重於状元打五号? 11/16 18:12
21F:推 uuuc1223:以前金块打三号还不是好好的 进攻战术真的很单调 11/16 18:20
22F:→ uuuc1223:虽然以前melo切入比较强 但是现在射程更广 11/16 18:20
23F:→ Zeka6721:空间跟面对防守时的相对位置 打3号可能一样成功 但帮助不 11/16 18:36
24F:→ Zeka6721:了队友进攻 没有Melo拉扯防守站位攻击机会就不会出来 11/16 18:39
25F:→ BSH99:\(# ̄▽ ̄#)/ 我挡~ 我觉得瓜现在在四号能做的比三号还多 11/16 18:55
26F:推 esther81828:其实我记得上一季就已经有分析说瓜在四号的作用更好XD 11/16 19:16
27F:推 HidakaShu:要短时间让拳王的中距离稳定到有威胁性太难了 11/16 19:19
28F:→ HidakaShu:目前只能打小球,我们的战绩没有本钱去实验新阵容了... 11/16 19:20
29F:→ BSH99:他只要敢投就好了拉 总比都被放空还是把球传给别人好XD 11/16 19:33
30F:推 osape:照BSH大的数据来看,巴尼亚尼的篮板是隔场休的 11/16 20:05
31F:→ osape:也就是明天打老鹰大概又是1篮板,凶多吉少...T.T 11/16 20:06
32F:推 MrRedHair:能切能投 身材厚重又很会撞 就差身高了 11/16 22:10
33F:推 BleuOmbre:别再实验阵容了,年年都要找新人来试到季末 orz 11/16 23:03
34F:→ BleuOmbre:Melo 的问题是防守,进攻从来不是他要担心的 11/16 23:04