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Charley Rosen says #Knicks running triangle "half-assed" but is Fisher to blame? http://nyp.st/1OvFQKe Charley Rosen开炮拉! In an interview Monday with The Post, Charley Rosen, Phil Jackson’s confidant and his former Continental Basketball Association assistant coach, confirmed the Knicks’ system offense is lagging under Fisher’s watch, riddled with bad picks, a lack of proper movement, too much dribbling and not enough backdoor cuts. Charley Rosen,禅师的知己,同时也是前欧洲篮球的助理教练表示尼克的进攻体系反应太 迟钝,老渔让这只尼克做出太多不好的进攻方式,不但缺少正确的传导方式,还有过多的 运球跟不够多的空手跑位。 The question is, whose fault is this? According to a source, there’s a growing sense among some players in the locker room Fisher is viewed more as a “preacher’’ and “motivator’’ than an expert in-game tactician or Xs-and-Os master. 那麽问题出在哪呢?根据消息指出有些球员认为老渔更像是个开导者跟布道者,但布置 比赛战术就没那麽厉害了。 That probably should be expected, considering Fisher has 1 ¼ seasons of coaching experience on any level. Bucks coach Jason Kidd, now on a medical leave, also is considered to be in the same boat, well behind as a tactician. According to the source, Fisher’s assistant coaches, including Brian Keefe, Kurt Rambis and Jim Cleamons, are more versed in the strategic concepts. The source said Carmelo Anthony has come to Fisher recently to lobby for rookie Kristaps Porzingis to be more involved in the offense late in games to take the burden off him. Indeed, Porzingis had plays run for him down the stretch in Boston on Sunday. 有监於他才执教一又四分之一的赛季,这表现是可以理解的,虽说同行的老基倒是有中等水 准,根据消息指出,老渔身边这群助理教练倒是挺擅长布置战术的,另外消息也说瓜哥 有跟老渔说该让KP在第四节时多餐与进攻,这样可以减轻他的负担,从事实来看,KP在老赛 战的第四节的确多了一些战术是围绕着他的。 “If you run the triangle, you have to make a total commitment to the triangle,’’ said Rosen, who writes a technical basketball column for todaysfastbreak.com. “It’s not like a part-time thing that you just use some of it. If that’s your offense, you got to commit to it. It doesn’t look like they’re really committed to it. “They’re running it in a half-assed way. It’s not creating the kind of shots it would normally create.’’ 对此Rosen表示:当你在跑三角战术时,你得要完全信任这套战术,你可不能想说这战术先跑 个一半看看效果如何,这套战术是不能用这种半吊子的心态去跑的,如果你真想用这进攻 战术,你就得专心地跑这套,但现在看来尼克并不是这样,他们只跑一半,然後甚麽空档都 没创造出来。 Rosen is working on an online series detailing the Knicks’ season through Jackson’s eyes, to be published on his website after the campaign. Rosen said Jackson is still committed to the triangle. Asked about Jackson’s mood, with the Knicks at 14-18 and falling into 12th place in the Eastern Conference, four games out of the eighth seed, Rosen said: “He enjoys wins, doesn’t enjoy the losses. He’s not a good loser.’’ Rosen现在是在网路上透过禅师去了解现在这只尼克的一切细节,他表示现在禅师仍很信赖 这套战术。 谈到禅师对这支14胜18败尼克的想法,Rosen表示他很享受胜利,但并不喜欢输球,他可不 擅长输球。 Jackson last spoke to the media three days before training camp, his silence growing odder by the week. With the Knicks on the road, Jackson spent Christmas week in New York, with his kids flying into town. Jackson had promised to be more involved with the coaching staff this season, with film work. Asked if Fisher still is learning on the job and had not mastered teaching basketball Xs and Os, Rosen said: “I think that’s valid. How much did he learn from coaching a team that won 17 games? What he did do last year was kept them playing hard, a monumental accomplishment.’’ 禅师上次出面说话是在训练营的前三天,禅师曾承诺这赛季会多跟教练团沟通。 当问到老渔是否还在学怎麽当教练,而且真的不太会布置战术。 Rosen:"我认为我就这麽说吧,看看他从上赛季那17胜中学到甚麽?看看他上赛季 怎麽让球员继续努力打球,这些都是不错的表现。 Because of the stigma developed last season over the triangle, Fisher rarely talks about it with the press. “I don’t know if he’s not harping on them or they are resistant,’’ Rosen said. “It’s 32 games. They should be running it better, unless Fisher isn’ t fully committed to it. “I see the weak-side picks are awful. They are loose. Nobody’s headhunting or looking for somebody. It’s just very, very loose.’’ 老渔很不满意球队在上场对老赛的进攻表现。由於上赛季那糟糕的表现,让老渔不太爱在 记者会上谈三角战术。 Rosen:"我不知道老渔是否有强硬要求队员们或是他们不太配合。现在已经32场比赛了, 他们这战术理应跑得更好才对,除非老渔没下定决心要跑这套战术。" 我看过他们在弱边处理方式,那真的是太糟糕了,他们打得过於松散了,没有人是真的 在寻求空档机会,就真的打得太懒散了。" Though the Knicks lead the league in post-ups, using Arron Afflalo and Carmelo Anthony, they aren’t getting enough out of them. Rosen said Porzingis, even though he has gotten stronger, isn’t “holding the space in the low post. He gets pushed out, and it ruins the spacing.” 虽然尼克已经是联盟中最常用低位的球队了,Rosen说KP的力量还不足以让他能在低位发挥 作用,他很容易就被挤出低位,反而破坏了空间的利用方式。 Center Robin Lopez, according to Rosen, is holding his space in the post, but “has to relearn his footwork,” saying that has caused a lot of his off-balance shots in the paint. Finally, Rosen sees too many double-teams on Anthony, which wouldn’t occur if the triangle was crisper. “It should be difficult for teams to double someone like Melo,’’ Rosen said. “If it’s functioning and Joe Blow is designated to double Melo, Joe Blow should never know where [Joe Blow] will be.’’ 谈到肉配汁,Rosen表示他应该多在低位活动,但他还得再学学低位脚步怎麽用,这已经 影响到他在禁区的进攻,太多失去平衡的投篮了。 另外瓜太常被包夹了,如果你三角跑得好,照理说他不会这麽容易就被包夹。 ----------------- Full Yahoo story on shot knee of Knicks' Cleanthony Early, with expected rehab timetable and investigation update: http://yhoo.it/1mjwiWD 阿早消息更新 After sustaining a gun-shot wound to his right knee early Wednesday in a targeted robbery, New York Knicks forward Cleanthony Early underwent MRI and X-ray exams that revealed no structural damage or surgery required, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Early remains in New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where doctors and the New York Knicks' training staff have worked to keep the 24-year-old's knee from becoming infected, sources told Yahoo. Early is expected to have a cleanup of his knee and expects a full recovery, league sources said. The bullet exited Early's leg and is not lodged in it, sources said. 不幸中的大幸-没有任何结构性伤害 尼克的训练员跟纽约医院医生一起在旁照料阿早。 目前预期只要把子弹清掉,阿早的膝盖可以完全康复! Early is expected to need two to three months to recover, league sources said, with his week-to-week timetable potentially changing, depending on his rehabilitation. The Knicks and Early's family have been briefed on his condition, sources said. Early was robbed after leaving CityScapes Gentlemen's Club in the Queens borough of New York around 4:30 a.m. Wednesday, the New York Police Department said. When reached for comment Wednesday afternoon, a New York police official told Yahoo Sports that no arrests have been made in connection to the shooting and the investigation is ongoing. Despite the shooting, Early has been in high spirits in the hospital and is positive about his recovery from the injury suffered, sources said. Early had arthroscopic surgery on the same knee during his rookie season in 2014-15. 不过预计阿早需要2~3个月的时间来养伤,目前还没抓到凶手。 不过消息指出阿早目前的心态还是很乐观,同时他被射那膝盖就是去年动手术那个 "Under the circumstances, he is very, very lucky," one source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN. Knicks coach Derek Fisher said he spoke with Early on Wednesday morning. "He's doing OK," Fisher said. "I don't think we've got enough of a medical update to assume everything is OK, but relatively, he's doing well. It doesn't appear to be life-threatening at this point. But obviously, until you're released from the hospital I think we also have to be cautious." Fisher later said: "The most important thing is that it appears at least that he's going to still be with us and hopefully be back with our team soon. To what extent of the injury, etc, we won't know that for now. But for sure, to know that he's still here and doing relatively well, as well as you could be, I think we'll take that." 对此消息表示:由这情况来看,阿早算非常非常幸运,没有任何结构性伤害。" 老渔表示:"他目前状态还好,我不认为我们目前有足够的情报可以去说目前情况都还好, 但,实际上,阿早目前状况还算良好,还好他目前没有生命危险,但显然的要等到他出院 後才能这麽说,我想我们还是得小心行事。" 现在最重要的是,他还是在我们身边,很希望他可以快点归队,我们目前不知道她伤势多 严重,但很确定的是,他仍活着而且一切都还算正常,所以我想我们能接受这结果的。" Fisher said the team might consider instituting a curfew at a later date. "I think it's very important to respect Cleanthony and his mom and his family before debating policy and what should and shouldn't be," he said. Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony said he was "shocked" to hear the news, saying Early is "a very humble guy who stays to himself." Anthony, who has played in New York for nearly five years, believes he and his teammates need to be cautious when out in public. "You have to be careful," he said. "You have to be aware of kind of what you're doing and your surroundings and where you're at. ... Guys are going to go out. Guys are going to have a good time. I think we just have to be a little bit more aware and a little bit more conscious of where we're at, who we're around, our surroundings, who's in our circles and things like that." 老渔说有监於近期内太多NBA球员在纽约的夜店出事,可能球队会考虑设个门禁时间。 (最近的就是DW钱被偷 CC被打之类的) 瓜表示她听到消息的当下很震惊,他说阿早是个很谦虚而且很自重的孩子。 瓜:"你得要小心点啊,你得要注意你在做甚麽还有你身边的环境是怎麽样的,有些人会想要 出去享乐一下,但我认为我们都需要谨慎一点并且要注意哪些区域,这件事都有可能发生在 我们之中。" 另外有消息说当天早上,禅师跟老渔有招集教练团跟球员们开会说明一下情况。 ----------------- -- ─∥ ── =" ψsherry821224 ────────────── \ Teammates don't  ̄◣  ̄╲  ̄╲ λ play with each _ -.╳ ︶- other, they play ρ\ `, ▲ FOR each other. ─∥ _╱ ╲╲_◢ | ────────…‥. --



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1F:推 ILNARA: 没有结构性的伤害...那大概就是等肉长好 伤口好了就能上了 12/31 17:37
2F:推 atear: 还好没事 不幸中的大幸 12/31 18:33
3F:推 osape: 还好没事,不过阿早好不容易有进入一点轮替了,真可惜 12/31 19:06
4F:→ osape: 夏季联赛打得挺好的,都没有上场时间真的很可惜 12/31 19:06
5F:推 ILNARA: 老渔的调度对我来说也是一个谜...本季看到现在都实验性质 12/31 19:43
6F:推 acemelo07: CC被打 ? 谁阿? 12/31 20:45
7F:→ julian0203: 靠谱兰 12/31 20:55
8F:推 osape: CC和沙发去夜店被砍,上季的消息。 12/31 21:31
9F:→ osape: 老鱼当更衣室精神领袖就好,战术给助教吧,昨天打活塞很好 12/31 21:32
10F:→ osape: 防守和投射都不错,希望下一场能持续,不想再看到破洞防守 12/31 21:32
11F:推 BleuOmbre: Grant 怎麽被冷了? 12/31 22:16
12F:推 ILNARA: 公牛这场落赛了 两支内线完全性的不敌...=_= 01/02 09:35
13F:→ ILNARA: kp扛不住 lopez也守不住中距离 阿福攻防都恍神 爆掉了XD 01/02 09:36
14F:→ ILNARA: 公牛运气也太好 三四球外线弹呀弹 弹进=.= 01/02 09:46
15F:推 ILNARA: 连续三分 打一波13-3 追回一点了 乎.. 01/02 10:00
16F:→ ILNARA: 公牛运气用完 开始打铁 命中率下降超快XD 半场50-56 01/02 10:03
17F:推 dj6601: 终於领先了 下半场真的狂响哨... 01/02 10:36
18F:推 camby909: 想讨论的 欢迎来LINE群 每场比赛都很热闹 01/02 10:43
19F:推 ILNARA: 第三节尺度变超紧..逼不完= = 01/02 10:44
20F:推 camby909: 一直吹我们推人 他们罚球..不然早压过去了 01/02 10:46
21F:推 dj6601: 被吹得支离破碎 看的好消火 01/02 10:47
22F:→ dj6601: Line....超不想装LINE的啦 坎比 01/02 10:48
23F:→ ILNARA: line几百年没开过了XD 01/02 10:48
24F:推 dj6601: 照这个尺度下去 我们凶多吉少了 01/02 10:51
25F:→ ILNARA: 黑爆了...... 01/02 10:52
26F:推 camby909: 老鱼 别乱闹了 01/02 10:53
27F:→ ILNARA: 尺度双重标准很明显= = 01/02 10:53
28F:→ dj6601: 跑了老半天 没看到在制造错位 第二波又都打不进 唉 01/02 10:53
29F:推 dj6601: 靠北 又被吹进犯 怎麽打阿 01/02 10:55
30F:推 camby909: ..真的 01/02 10:56
31F:推 dj6601: 看的超火的... 01/02 10:57
32F:推 ILNARA: 撞到自己人 算我们的? 01/02 10:57
33F:推 camby909: 裁判真的太扯 真的被吹到落後 01/02 10:58
34F:→ ILNARA: 这球太扯=.= 01/02 11:03
35F:推 dj6601: KP低位进攻完全没信心耶 都打一半就丢出来 硬打买饭也好阿 01/02 11:04
36F:→ dj6601: -18了 01/02 11:05
37F:→ dj6601: 第四节剩四分钟 我们只得6分 好惨 01/02 11:06
38F:推 penny1and1: 完全无法接受这种总教练,第四节一开局放替补,被打爆 01/02 11:06
39F:→ penny1and1: 老渔不知道在干嘛.....三角战术都跑这麽久还是很糟 01/02 11:08
40F:推 gk524: 不要再批评老渔了...板上资深士官长说过只是默契问题 01/02 11:08
41F:→ gk524: 即使这种三角没发挥功能让阵中单打好手只获得疯狂包夹出手 01/02 11:09
42F:推 ILNARA: 阿福.... 01/02 11:10
43F:推 penny1and1: 那可以不要冰Grant吗?公主都可以上场了 01/02 11:10
44F:推 dj6601: 老渔的三角都在弱边玩两人配合 问题是这麽单调简单 01/02 11:11
45F:推 gk524: 公主的无形默契值比较高吧? 我也不懂 有请资深士官长开示 01/02 11:11
46F:→ dj6601: 骗的了谁...NCAA教练都能找出方法对付了 01/02 11:12
47F:→ gk524: 这种三角连一般的挡拆制造错位都不如 不过应该是默契问题啦 01/02 11:12
48F:→ dj6601: 老渔的用人哲学也超怪 有时狂用KOQ冰KS好几场 之後又相反 01/02 11:14
49F:→ dj6601: 之前天天上场的阿芒 现在又跑到板凳深处 01/02 11:14
50F:推 gk524: 别说太多了 板上资深士官长等等又要不开心攻击板友惹 01/02 11:15
51F:→ dj6601: 第四节还是只得8分 01/02 11:16
52F:推 penny1and1: 老渔用人真的很难抓,很难理解他的逻辑! 01/02 11:16
53F:→ dj6601: 新年第一场 就这样 好不吉祥阿 XD 01/02 11:17
54F:推 penny1and1: 最近有消息想要交易建宁公主过来,不知道可不可行? 01/02 11:19
55F:推 ILNARA: 用人标准真的...唉..... 01/02 11:19
56F:推 dj6601: 要说教练这样一点问题也没有 我也认了 01/02 11:20
57F:推 gk524: 球季才刚过三分之一呢 有点耐心等我尼默契值练起来行吗 01/02 11:20
58F:推 rioslo: 空间都拉不出来 到底三角在哪理啊 01/02 11:21
59F:→ dj6601: 唉 没关系 禅师发言人已经出来开炮了 只能耐心静观其变了 01/02 11:22







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