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原文连结:http://0rz.tw/bD5bo 接续上篇(#1GU3Utf1)。 我流翻译有错请用力指正感恩多谢。深灰色的字为我个人注解。 ──────────────────────────────────────── Hi Froggen, first of all i d like to say that it was a blast watching you guys play, you did your best and you guys were awesome, here's my question if i may, i kinda was wondering what kinda runes do you use on orianna if it's possible All Hail CLG Eu 嗨佛根,看完你们的比赛让我很震撼,我觉得你们都打得很棒。可以告诉我你球女用的是 什麽符文吗?最後就是 CLG.EU 万岁! i cant remember, i ran standard ap runes in all matches though 我不记得了欸,应该就跟我平常比赛用的 AP 符文差不多吧。 Hey Froggen, Hope you and your team are doing alright and getting some rest, I am a huge fan of you guys. I think you all honestly played some of the best games League of Legends has ever seen. I will honestly never forget the "longest day" aka Day 3 - my friends and I streamed from my house and watched all day hoping to see you guys beat WE. Beyond that, you guys are ALWAYS so positive, happy and joking around. This is what sets you apart from the other teams because there is so much comradery between all 5 of you. All of this will help you guys so much in the long run, and this goes beyond League - it shows your guys' true character and I respect you guys so deeply for that. CLG.eu will always be the team I root for and I look forward to seeing you guys in future tournaments! That being said, first of all, how are you guys holding up? Do you think you will stick to your usual competitive picks (Anivia, Karthus, Orianna) or expand a little bit? What's your opinion on running champions or assassins like Ahri, Diana, or Evelynn in competitive? It seemed to really catch TPA off guard when M5 played an assassin mid (Eve). Do you think Galio is a viable pick mid competitive? 嘿佛根,希望你们都还 OK 并且有充分地放松休息,我是你们的大粉丝。我觉得你们都打 出了相当精采的比赛,而且我永远不会忘记「史上最久的比赛」,也就是第 3 天的赛事。 我和我朋友整天都待在我家看比赛直播,期待看到你们打爆 WE。不过更重要的是,你们总 是保持正面积极的态度,气氛一直是很欢乐的。这也是你们如此与众不同的原因,因为你 们之间的夥伴情谊很紧密,这对你们也会有很棒的帮助。而跳脱英雄联盟从现实生活来看 你们,我真的对你们每个人都感到非常敬佩。我会一直支持着 CLG.EU,并且期待你们在未 来赛事中的表现! 回到正题,你会继续专注在常出的角色(冰鸟、死哥、球女)吗?还是会向其他的英雄发 展?你觉得像阿璃、黛安娜或伊芙琳这类的刺客角怎麽样?当时 TPA 看起来被 M5 的中路 Eve 整惨了。另外你觉得中路加里欧可行吗? We will try to change the way our team currently plays and we will be more about early game than just turtle it away and be better in teamfights. The reason i haven't been playing assasin champions etc is because we have always been used to have a mid that can control the teamfight, anivia/karthus/orianna/morgana/galio/kennen we only played ahri who doesnt have that control but instead snowballs insanely hard. we will be doing some fun stuff for season3 which might suprise people and I hope it will and I would love to show it at IPL5 too 我们会试着改变队伍目前的玩法,也不会在游戏早期时打得很龟,并且改善团战的表现。 我不玩那些刺客角的理由是因为我们习惯选一只对团战较有帮助的中路英雄,像是冰鸟、 死哥、球女、魔甘娜、加里欧还有凯能。虽然阿璃没有像上面这些英雄在会战中的影响能 力,但她的雪球滚起来会非常可怕。我们在 S3 或许会有令大家惊喜的有趣玩意儿,我希 望也愿意在 IPL5 的时候表现给大家看。 Hey Froggen, you are so damn good at landing Anivia Q. How do you predict where the enemy is going and to hit him? Besides basics like when he's going for a CS, I feel like there's some next level shit that's going through your head every time you play her. 嘿佛根,你冰鸟的 Q 根本夭寿神准啊!你是怎麽预测敌人的动向的?除了他们要去吃小兵 这类基本的预测外,我觉得一定还有什麽比较进阶的方法,所以你才会这麽神。 look at the opponents movement, usually your opponenets will walk in the same line through the entire laning phase... thats the weakness of most mids 观察对方的走位,通常他们的走位都会一成不变…这也是多数中路的弱点。 With how much Orianna got played by everyone in the tournament, do you think there are going to be any nerfs for her? 球女在这次比赛飞这麽高,你觉得她要被 nerf 了吗? as ive been saying a thousand times before orianna buffs were pathetic and no reason to give her those buffs/changes at all. i used to play orianna before all those changes/buffs and she was balanced back then and people still banned it against us. they might give her some slight nerfs but i dont think they want to change too much about her atm 我之前讲过了 N 遍,球女根本就不需要那些 buff 跟改变。在那之前我很常玩球女,那时 她已经够平衡了,而且对手也会 BAN 她来抵制我们。球女应该会被 nerf 一点,但我不觉 得会改变多少。 What is your opinion on AP Tristana? 你觉得 AP 炮娘如何? When she could explode the minions with spells i really liked her.. now she is more of a snowballer like leblanc and she can get counterpicked too easily and people will just 1vs2 an ap tristana 在她还可以靠技能扩散炸小兵的时候我真的很喜欢她…现在她比较像勒布朗这种雪球角, 而且她容易被康特,对手会压烂她。 How do you feel about TPA winning vs M5? 你对 TPA 赢 M5 有什麽感想? it was unexpected but im so happy to see stanley play nidalee, thats how tpa won their first scrims against us, annoying nidalee is annoying 出乎意料,但我很高兴能看到史丹立玩 Nid,TPA 就是靠这个第一次赢了跟我们的团练。 卢洨洨的奶大力真的超烦的。 Goals for S3? personal and as a team. 在 S3 对於个人和队伍的目标? Be a better cook - also I want people to practise more champions instead of play random champs in soloq 当一个更好的厨师。还有我希望队员能练习更多的英雄,而不是在 soloQ 中随便乱玩。
1F:推 applemonster:cook那边真的是厨师 因为团练室只有snoopeh略懂厨艺 10/13 23:42
(好想吃佛根煮的菜。 <3) what do you think you need to improve on for season 3? 你觉得你们在 S3 需要改进什麽? more versatile champions on every single lane, more aggresive less predictive, already doing a good job at lvl 1s 每一路都要有更多可出的英雄,化被动转主动。单挑这部分应该已经做得很不错了。 If Anivia existed in real life, would you mate with her? 如果现实世界真的有艾妮维亚的存在,你会跟她在一起吗? Already did and Annie is my little child <3 已经在一起了唷,安妮就是我们的小孩。 <3 (外国乡民:原来霜火安妮是这样来的。) Wickd's champion pool too small? Wickd 会的英雄是不是太少了? atm yes. but i think its because he is spamming irelia/jayce because they are really strong, so he wont get any practise with other champions and then we have a problem when those 2 will get banned 目前来说是的,不过我觉得他会一直选伊瑞莉亚和杰西是因为这两只英雄真的都很强,所 以他才没有练其他英雄,不过也因为这样只要这两只被 BAN 我们就麻烦大了。 Are there going to be any roster changes on CLG.eu for season 3? Is there any champion you wish your teammates could play or would learn? CLG.EU 在 S3 的阵容会改变吗?有哪些英雄是你希望队伍可以出或必须要学的? No. I love my team and I wouldnt want to play with other players than them atm I wish wickd would truly learn how to play an AP champion top, but all that will be fixed for season3 and I think he realized he needs to be able to play AP champ or atleast semi ap top like singed 不会。我喜欢我的队伍,目前我不想和其他人一起玩。我希望 Wickd 可以练出一只 AP 单 上,不过 S3 应该会有大变动。我觉得 Wickd 自己也知道它应该要至少会一只单上 AP, 或者起码要像辛吉德这种半 AP 角色。 What did you think of the anivia that took down moscow 5 in the other semifinals? Was it just alex ich's gragas looking worse than normal, or do you think the changes to gragas have made it a bad matchup. 你对 M5 被冰鸟打爆有什麽看法?是单纯因为 Alex 的酒桶没有发挥水准吗?还是之前酒 桶的变动让他在比赛中变得不 OK? actually it hurt my soul to see so many missed ultimates and q's from toyz.. i really hope he wont play anivia in the finals because it can cost them the game against azubu frost cause they will know what to do. I know toyz is playing a really good vlad and vlad is good against gragas so i dont see why he wouldnt play vlad... on another note: im really looking forward to rapidstar vs toyz 其实看到 Toyz 的冰鸟 miss 这麽多大绝和 Q 我还蛮伤心的…我觉得他们在冠亚赛不该再 出冰鸟,因为 Azubu Frost 会知道怎麽对付他。我知道 Toyz 的吸血鬼很强,吸血鬼打酒 桶非常 OK,所以我不知道他为啥不出吸血鬼。另外,我很期待看到 Toyz 跟 rapidstar 的对决! what were you thinking when the internet got cut off just when you were about to win? 你们快赢的那时候突然断线後,你们心里想的是什麽? at first we were mad about that can even happen, but i respect their decision and i can kinda understand it. i just hope it will never happen again and honestly it was a harder kick in the face when i got to know we wouldnt even finish our match that day cause all of us felt good.. 一开始我们觉得这真是扯到翻天然後觉得很火,不过我尊重他们的决定,而且多少能够理 解。我希望这种鸟事不会再发生了,老实说当我们知道比赛无法在那天结束时感觉就像被 一脚踢在脸上,因为当时我们感觉自己的状况很好。 How do you feel about Evelynn as an AP mid? Do you think she can be shut down easily, or does her ability to roam make it hard for other AP mids to deal with her? 你觉得伊芙琳当中路 AP 如何?你觉得她很好解决吗?还是因为她的 roam 能力会让她变 很棘手? you can shut her down if you know how to! i know all the brasillians know how to _^ 只要知道方法,就可以很轻松地解决她。巴西人都知道要怎麽打爆 Eve。 ^_^
2F:推 petersos80 :巴西魔豆10/13 23:13
3F:→ kaneggyy :我朋友玩Eve,他是说遇到魔斗洗兵的时候游走要靠江狗10/14 00:24
4F:→ kaneggyy :补位吃兵,如果江狗没办法快速吃兵的话就会很头痛10/14 00:24
5F:→ kaneggyy :所以才会说魔斗有counter到Eve吧10/14 00:25
在这边补上之前好色龙大大(也就是 HornyDragon)有关这方面的解说: 老外普遍对巴西玩家 有着爱作弊、爱钻漏洞、爱乞讨、爱耍白的刻版印象。 而HUE则是巴西人的笑声,或是说用来嘲笑巴西人的笑声。 然而之前有一位ID为huehuehue的巴西玩家在欧服用Morde打出一片天, 并成为最强的Morde玩家。 Pls answer this 2 questions :) 1. Top 5 Ap carrys every MID player must know to play? 2. What are the most common mistakes mid players do in lane that make difference between good and great player? 两个问题: 1. 中路都应该要会玩的 5 只 AP 英雄? 2. 哪些最常见的差别可以区分出中路高手和神手? 1. whatever you feel comfortable on, it doesnt even need to be an AP champion for mid. 2. when to put pressure and when to farm wraiths 1. 选你上手的就好,甚至不一定要是 AP 英雄。 2. 知道何时该给对手施加压力,还有何时该吃四鬼。 (这个人问超多题,所以我把问答穿插这样比较方便阅读) 1) I think everyone would like some comments on the recent semi-final match against AF. How do you guys evaluate yourself in the matches, what could you have done better, what did you do wrong etc? 1) 我觉得大家应该都会想知道准决赛和 AF 打的感想。你们对自己有什麽评价呢?像是 哪些可以做得更好,还有哪些做错了等等。 In general we dont evaluate tournament matches but i feel like these matches we played against azubu frost/WE made us see we still have a lot to learn. Not gonna go indept with what we couldve done better, i think one of the main things is we are bad at keep getting further and further ahead when we win early game. 一般来说我们不会对比赛做评价,但在和 Azubu Frost 和 WE 打过後,我们发现我们还有 许多需要学习的地方。我觉得有个很重要的一点,就是在藉由游戏早期的优势来拉开更大 的差距这方面上,我们做得不是很好。 2) What is up with all the cheating thing!! o.O I see reddit posts about it everywhere but I was at school. Did they cheat, how? Or what? 2) 作弊事件到底是怎麽回事啊? o.O 我在 reddit 上到处都看到这个,可是我当时人在 学校所以一无所知。他们真的有作弊吗? It was just the minimap behind them they possible looked at, i dont see a reason to talk about this though, if you research a bit you will get all the answers you are looking for. 就只是选手有可能看了在他们後面的小地图,我觉得我没有谈论这个的必要。你自己去搜 寻看看应该就可以找到你想要的答案。 3) HAVE YOU GUYS HAD AN AMAZING TIME OR WHAT?! :D It's so nice to see you guys being happy and trolly at tourneys, gotta bring that anivia dance out on the dancefloor. Maybe some karaoke bar one day, yes, CLG.eu boyband 2stronk! 3) 你们玩得超开心的对吧!看到你们耍白目真的很好玩,还有大跳冰鸟舞。改天应该要 来个卡拉 OK,CLG.EU 乐团太屌了! We did have a good time and we really like the way s2 has been. If we came to the finals i wouldve considered doing the anivia dance for sure! 我们真的玩得很开心,也很喜欢 S2 世界冠军赛。如果我们真的有进决赛的话我绝对会毫 不犹豫地大跳冰鸟舞! 4) How is Miguel? 4) Miguel 如何? He is being Miguel the kupo (nobody understands the kupo part because they dont know what happened with deman and jatts notes!) (拍写这题我整个跨谋,Miguel 是谁? 囧)
6F:推 kaneggyy :miguel好像是krepo在进美国海关的时候遇到问题,後来10/14 00:23
7F:→ kaneggyy :解决之後他就说他是开计程车的Miguel了 XD 10/14 00:24
以下是热心苹果兽寄信来的补充说明~ 「就是之前Krepo要入境美国时出的麻烦 好像被认错为是一个叫Miguel的计程车司机而被拒绝入境 大概吧 还是後来冒充是一个叫Miguel的计程车司机才入境 我想第一个比较可能」 5) Does Snoopeh's stare kill if you look at him too long? 5) 如果你一直盯着史努比看的话真的会被他瞪死吗? Not if you are lee sin 如果你是李星的话就不会。 6) Just laying out an idea here, you and Wickd doing some cool stuff in Denmark later this year? Maybe for fans, meet-up, danish community stuff or something :)? 6) 只是一个想法,你和 Wickd 有可能在今年为丹麦来个什麽特别的玩意儿吗?像是粉丝 同乐会之类的东西。 I doubt we gonna do anything like that since im not sure what wickd will be doing and im not that close to any big city, i would possibly do it if there is a lot of interest for it. 恐怕我们没办法做类似的东西,因为我不知道 Wickd 接下来要做什麽,而我住的地方附近 没有任何的大城市。如果弄起来真的会很有趣的话我会考虑看看。 7) The clip from the WE match where you guys catch out Nocturne and kill everyone to win the game and going 1-1, was that your inner anivia screech surfacing right there? :D Btw so inspirational to watch that somehow. 7) 在 WE 的夜曲冲向你们的那瞬间,你内心是不是有一只小冰鸟燃烧了呢?顺便一提那场 比赛真的很激励人心。 it was my inner froggen~ 燃烧的是我内心的另一个佛根~ What makes a person a successful mid player in soloQ? Is it always buying 1-2 wards when you back to buy or just playing safe mid and farming up for mid/late game? 在 soloQ 当一个成功的中路玩家的关键是什麽?是每次回家的时候都要带一两只眼吗?还 是乖乖地农到中後期出关? being able to counterpick or just outroam the opponent, easiest way to win soloq cause people like to rage at eachother if people go on eachothers lanes ehehehehe 用选角康特对方,或是去别线乱;这是在 soloQ 时最简单的获胜方法,因为有别线的人来 乱时,通常对面就会开始彼此责怪,嘿嘿嘿。 What do you think, what could your team have done to win the last game? What was the Problem in the 2. after your awesome win in the 1. Game? Will you consider pickin up new Mid Champs on Tourney Level like Eve, maybe Xerath, longer forgotten Heroes who are strong but underplayed. Maybe even a Froggen TF? =D Still congratz for the Games, you rocked ! 你觉得你的队伍在游戏後期会做什麽来赢得胜利?在漂亮地赢了第一场游戏後,第二场是 出了什麽问题?你会考虑选伊芙琳,或是齐勒斯这种被人遗忘但是很强的英雄吗?或者有 机会看到你玩 TF? =D 还是恭喜你们罗,你超酷! we shouldnt try to do the impossible and we need to have a clue what we should do after a fast laning. in the second game we couldnt poke and we basically fell behind on all lanes vs a snowball comp so its really hard to get back from that, also people didnt have fast enough reactions I already do play TF a lot and I love that champion but my team - specially wickd - doesnt feel comfortable when we are playing that champion 我们应该尽可能地放手去做,并且在游戏早期得对线期後理出个头绪知道接着该做什麽。 在第二场比赛中我们没办法 poke,基本上我们全线崩溃,很难逆转情势,而且也没有够快 的反应。 我其实有在玩 TF 而且我也很喜欢他,但是我的队伍,特别是 Wickd,觉得和 TF 一起玩 不是很舒服。 "I love Anivia" But I thought Kanade was your waifu? Or do you have 2 waifus? 「我爱艾妮维亚。」 不过我想立华奏才是你老婆吧?还是你有两个老婆? secretly she is anivia 偷偷跟你说,立华奏就是艾妮维亚。 How do you feel towards all the support CLG.eu has gotten? 对於所有对 CLG.EU 的支持你有什麽感想? its the most awesome thing in the world. i will definately do my best to repay all the fans for that awesome support 这是全世界最棒的东西。我会尽我所能做到最好,才不会辜负所有粉丝的支持。 tits or ass? ㄋㄟ ㄋㄟ 还是屁屁? I believe you asked me before in my AMA a couple of months ago ~ the answer will stay at "both" 你是不是在前几个月的 AMA 问过问一样的问题?答案还是一样,我两个都要。 (佛根你好贪心唷! >///<) (发问的乡民表示他没问过,不过题目的确是学别人的。 XD) ──────────────────────────────────────── 噢耶翻完啦!刚好以完美的一题做结!(咦?) 这次翻的比较多不确定的,有些我就根据佛根的回答用猜的, 有些实在怎麽猜都怪怪的就没翻附上原文了,还请翻译高手指教! -- How my girlfriend feels when I wake up wanting sex. http://i.imgur.com/9jbsO.gif --



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8F:推 Aprildie :不愧是鸟神,玩成这样还是觉得Toyz的功力不够 10/13 23:03
9F:→ Aprildie :那我知道要怎麽杀掉佛根了,等冰鸟免费周强迫他在旁 10/13 23:05
10F:→ Aprildie :边看那些人玩冰鸟 10/13 23:05
11F:推 gox1117 :\你们都是我的翅膀阿/ 10/13 23:06
12F:→ jeffreyshe :球女又要陷入nerf没人玩 buff高端op的回圈惹吗 10/13 23:06
13F:推 qe70r178rl :XDDDD 10/13 23:08
14F:推 Dix123 :PUSH热心 10/13 23:08
15F:推 kducky :TPA二队取名叫TAB吧 Taipei Angel Beats 佛根搞不好 10/13 23:09
16F:→ kducky :跳槽过来(误 10/13 23:09
17F:推 fallengunman:译得好! 10/13 23:10
18F:→ fallengunman:brasillian是巴西人吗 10/13 23:11
…靠腰他是说所有巴西人都知道怎麽打爆 Eve 吗?Whyyyyy? <囧>
19F:推 charles716 :推翻译 10/13 23:11
20F:推 petersos80 :巴西魔豆 10/13 23:13
? 所以是 Morde 康特 Eve 的意思?
21F:→ thewid :知道怎麽打EVE没有用 因为EVE是杀你队友.. 10/13 23:14
22F:推 zxc15793 :翻译推XD 10/13 23:15
23F:推 strayway :fast laning 我想应该是快速的称线期吧 10/13 23:17
24F:→ strayway :韩国现在都很快就5人集中推塔 称线期相当短 不给你农 10/13 23:17
25F:推 odin1206 :两个都要XDDD 10/13 23:19
26F:推 Homeparty :鸟神不是讲假的.. 10/13 23:19
27F:→ gagoga :佛根大概觉得冰鸟Q miss是很神奇的 10/13 23:24
28F:推 CHISN :佛根不解冰鸟都是指定技,为何还会MISS? 10/13 23:25
29F:推 potionx :佛根:让我玩冰鸟早就打暴他们了! 10/13 23:26
30F:推 a127 :佛根表示TOYZ的冰鸟还不到家XDDD 有够夸张 10/13 23:26
就像哈下觉得自己的 Nid 还是比史丹立强一样。 ww
31F:推 peachteagif :够了啊..太强就没冰鸟可以用了 10/13 23:30
32F:推 CKnightalker:HS的Nid真的超强的啊!!! 10/13 23:30
他的 Nid 简直是艺术,就跟佛根的冰鸟一样。
33F:推 ck3300511 :米糕是KREPO好像 10/13 23:31
34F:推 a127 :HS的NID是很恐怖,但是能够面对M5一挑三的是史丹利 10/13 23:32
35F:推 Aprildie :Hotshot的Nid大概是哪个时期的啊@@ 想见识一下 10/13 23:33
36F:→ Aprildie :不知道板上有没有VOD能看QQ 10/13 23:34
37F:推 a127 :GOOGLE HSGG NID应该就有了 10/13 23:35
38F:推 kducky :同意佛根的冰鸟比toyz强 10/13 23:39
39F:推 octopus1991 :HS的NID比史丹利强 但史丹利META比他好 10/13 23:39
40F:推 sword10723 :我也记得巴西跟魔斗有关系...但是忘记出处了 XD 10/13 23:40
41F:→ gox1117 :HOTSHOT NIDLEE GG 10/13 23:42
42F:推 wakayama :李星康特史努比 10/13 23:42
43F:推 applemonster:cook那边真的是厨师 因为团练室只有snoopeh略懂厨艺 10/13 23:42
44F:推 hasroten :HS不喜欢玩AD NID 10/13 23:44
45F:→ applemonster:brasillians, 之前的huehuehue就是指巴西人的笑声吧? 10/13 23:44
46F:→ applemonster:fast laning 应该是指游戏刚开始不久的对线 就是指开 10/13 23:45
47F:→ applemonster:开始对线一小段时间以後要快点理出个头绪 10/13 23:46
48F:推 icenivek :fast laning是指赖线? 10/13 23:46
49F:→ Berotec :hs是AP NID在威 10/13 23:46
50F:→ ke0119 :HS的NID也很鲁洨,不过史丹利破塔後会控野区 10/13 23:47
51F:→ applemonster:she是指立华奏 不然就不用secretly了 XD 10/13 23:47
52F:→ ke0119 :整体来讲HS的NID未必比较厉害 10/13 23:47
53F:推 chrisvzxs :应该说微操是HS厉害 但是控线压制的进退是史丹利稳 10/13 23:49
54F:推 W22625231 :但是HS会玩AP NID 每次看他Q出去就很享受.... 10/13 23:51
55F:→ W22625231 :史丹利有玩过? 10/13 23:51
56F:推 AIDSFUCKSHIT:史丹利S1也是玩AP NID啊 谁说比HS差?? 10/13 23:55
57F:推 W22625231 :S1没台服o_O 10/13 23:56
58F:→ leo79415 :你听过美服吗? 10/13 23:58
59F:→ eternalwrath:史丹利在美服早就是上路王者了 = = 10/13 23:59
60F:推 W22625231 :那时候HS比较有名吧? 10/14 00:00
61F:推 AIDSFUCKSHIT:因为HS有开实况阿 史丹力不会比他差 10/14 00:01
62F:推 a2364983 :好想知道他所谓对付EVE的秘诀 10/14 00:02
63F:推 donvito :Stanley0506 以前很常在实况看到 10/14 00:02
64F:推 leo79415 :S1时HS本就是名气最高的实况主 10/14 00:03
65F:推 sakon :Miguel = Krepo, kupo梗可能要偷看Jatt的笔记 10/14 00:07
66F:→ sakon :Miguel梗很有趣但是我人在国外用手机实在不方便 10/14 00:08
67F:→ sakon :只好拜请拜请苹果兽 10/14 00:09
68F:推 migyo :我猜佛根是认为用魔斗洗兵角可以克制EVE的游走.. 10/14 00:10
69F:推 JEON :只讲S1 HSGG绝对是王者 根本不用怀疑.... 10/14 00:15
70F:推 t77133562003:卢洨洨的奶大力真的超烦的。 10/14 00:20
71F:推 sieVI :果然心里还是有点疙瘩 WICKD要加强阿~! 10/14 00:20
72F:→ evildark :s1 HSGG面对sOAZ还不是自ban nid...也说过sOAZ nid强 10/14 00:21
73F:推 kaneggyy :miguel好像是krepo在进美国海关的时候遇到问题,後来 10/14 00:23
74F:→ kaneggyy :解决之後他就说他是开计程车的Miguel了 XD 10/14 00:24
75F:→ kaneggyy :我朋友玩Eve,他是说遇到魔斗洗兵的时候游走要靠江狗 10/14 00:24
76F:→ kaneggyy :补位吃兵,如果江狗没办法快速吃兵的话就会很头痛 10/14 00:24
77F:→ kaneggyy :所以才会说魔斗有counter到Eve吧 10/14 00:25
感谢各位大德的补充说明,让我的翻译资讯更完整~ <3 ※ 编辑: cat0405 来自: 219.85.204.138 (10/14 00:42)
78F:推 jeff8611 :huehuehue 10/14 00:36
79F:推 fenir :hotshotnidaleeGG 梦骇客 神逃跑 影片支援 10/14 00:55
81F:→ fenir :http://goo.gl/UHU0D 10/14 00:56
82F:推 floydhess :吸血鬼这种一波的根本不适合分推战术 10/14 01:29
83F:→ floydhess :TPA一定有考虑过 佛根只想到对线层面 10/14 01:30
84F:推 gigan :虽然我很喜欢佛根 可是我觉得toyz的冰鸟虽然没有佛根 10/14 01:38
85F:→ gigan :那种可怕的神Q神墙 但他完全做到团队上的一点 就是牵 10/14 01:38
86F:→ gigan :制住alex的酒桶以及保住自己的蓝 让其他线能够完全发 10/14 01:39
87F:→ gigan :挥最後获得胜利 跟EU常常都靠冰鸟carry不一样啊 10/14 01:39
88F:推 hisped :想不要还酸了toyz的冰鸟Q不准 XD 10/14 03:45







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