※ 引述《yohko ()》之铭言： : 不知道在这PO这个算不算违规，刚刚看到的东西@@ : http://youtube.com/watch?v=H5YB1Mmx7E4 : 虽然各种直读改装已经能够让Wii顺利运行D版游戏光碟，但实际上，Wii的作业系统 : 和运行机制并没有被完全破解，骇客无法为Wii开发任何程式。今天，在着名骇客会议 : ，第24届Chaos Communication Congress（24C3）上，一组破解者展示了他们在Wii : 作业系统破解上的关键性进展。 : 通过使用自制串口电缆，破解者在Wii运行当中导出了全部记忆体数据，并从中找到了 : Wii内部数据的加密、解密密钥。使用这些密钥，他们已经编写了一段代码，并伪装 : 为Wii游戏成功运行。这段代码可以在萤幕上显示Wiimote手柄的精确定位资讯。 : 骇客宣称，使用此方法他们已经可以获取Wii全部硬体的访问权。 : Wii的作业系统至此已宣告彻底破解，今後以此为基础，骇客们将可以为Wii主机编写 : 各种自制应用程式，如模拟器、各种网路应用等等。Wii应用的一个新时代即将到来。 : 虽然我自己没有wii....不过这真的还蛮厉害的，Nitendo泪目〒△〒 这里有那个Hacker的专访： http://www.tehskeen.com/forums/showthread.php?p=23646&posted=1#post23646 我英文很差，所以随便翻翻，大家也随意看看吧，如果翻得太烂的部分就参照原文吧:) So you attended the 24c3. Can you tell me briefly what the convention is all about? >Sure. This was my first time attending -- I went this year because it sounds like fun, and a friend of mine (mist, who was one of the Xbox 360 presenters this year, and who also presented last year on IIRC Xbox stuff) suggested I come along. 所以说你参加了24C3。你能简述这个研讨会的内容吗？ >好的。这是我第一次出席 -- 我会出席是因为这感觉很有趣，而且我的一位朋友 (米斯特，他是今年的Xbox 360展示者(注1)，同时也在去年的IIRC展示了有关Xbox的东西) 建议我跟着去。 译注1：这里应该是指24C3的Xbox360相关破解展示 >It's one of the longest-standing hacker conferences around -- it's almost as old as I am! -- and it has a great reputation for being open and bringing together a diverse group of people to talk about neat stuff, and, well, just sit down together and hack on stuff. >这是一个历久不衰的骇客会议之一 -- 几乎跟我年纪一样大了！而且受到好评：它的 开放性且聚集了各式各样的人来谈论新奇的东西、然後...恩，就是坐在一起然後 破解东西。 Yes, it does sound like a good time. So were you invited because Mist knew of your revolutionary discovery? 是的，听起来是个好时机。所以米斯特是因为知道你的革命性发现邀请你的吗？ >Well, I don't know that I was really "invited" -- I just went as an attendee. Mist knew that I'd been working on the Wii stuff -- and actually, he had introduced me to some of the others I worked with (such as tmbinc). It seemed like a good opportunity to meet some like-minded people, and maybe get some ideas. I brought all of my "stuff" along, hoping I might be able to show *something*, but didn't know we'd have anything ready to show. 这个嘛，我不知道我是真正被"邀请" -- 我只是以出席者的身分参加。米斯特知道我有 在碰有关Wii的东西 -- 而且事实上，他把我介绍给一些相关人士(像是tmbinc(注2))。 这看起来是一个碰到志同道合的人的好机会，而且或许可以得到一些概念。我带着我所有 的"鸡丝"一起去，希望可以秀出*一些东西*，但是当时不知道我们是否真能够准备秀出 东西来。 译注2：着名Hacker，制作过Gamecube自制软体 >So, Mist and tmbinc told me they'd lend me a little bit of their talk if I wanted, and that's what ended up happening. (at the very last moment, no less!) >所以，米斯特和tmbinc告诉我，如果我有需要的话他们可以分享一些他们的研究， 而这些促成了结果。(最起码也在关键的时刻！) So you basically compared ideas and found the exploit on the spot? 所以你简单的比对了彼此的想法以後就马上发现了漏洞吗？ >It was a bit more involved than that. I've been working with tmbinc and a few others, on and off, for a few months -- I don't want to name them until I've asked them if they want to be named -- but I certainly had a lot of help. We'd managed to decrypt a lot of the Wii data within the past month, and had been looking for a way to run homebrew code. >比你所形容的再复杂一点。我一直与tmbinc和其他人一起做，断断续续的进行了 几个月 -- 在那些人愿意透漏姓名之前我不想透漏他们的名子 -- 不过我确实受到了很多 的协助。过去几个月中我们进行很多Wii资料的解密工作、还有寻找执行自制程式的方法。 >We had a few different ideas for things to do, but nothing really seemed to work -- I have so many DVDs that I burned that booted half-way and then froze -- but at the last minute (maybe 30 mins before the presentation), I managed to get one that I could reproduce reliably (at least for a demo) >我们做了一些摸索，但是好像都没有用 -- 我烧了许多DVD都只能开机到一半 就停住了 -- 但是到了最後一分钟(也许是展示前30分钟)，我终於搞定一片可以可靠地 重现破解(至少可秀一个DEMO) Talk about timing! No wonder you were so excited! Now that you've been able to run code in Wii mode what are your plans? 谈到时间点！难怪你会这麽的兴奋！现在你已经可以在Wii模式上跑程式，你有什麽计画？ >Heh, yeah, I was surprised to see so many comments about that on the YouTube posting. I was pretty excited and pretty nervous, sure, and not entirely positive it would actually work. I had hoped to get a little more polish on the demo -- like putting in some greets, etc -- but I ran out of DVDs at the last minute and had to run across the street to get some more. [...] 阿，是阿，我很惊讶在Youtube上看到这麽多相关的评论。 我当时很兴奋也很紧张，当然了，也不完全认为可以成功。我原本想在DEMO上做点包装 -- 像是放进一些问候语之类的 -- 但是我在最後一分钟用光了DVD片，甚至必须要外出 购买。 >The solution we found is still not very clean -- we intend to release a good solution, but it's going to take some time to do it right. I mostly wanted to show a proof of concept, that it could be done, and hopefully give people some ideas that they could pursue on their own. >我们找到的破解方案仍然不是很完全 -- 我们打算释出一个好的破解方案，但是需要 一些时间来修正。我主要是想证明一个概念，这是做得到的，并且指望能给大家一 些得以自行开发的方法。 >The immediate next goal is getting something like SDLoad working so that I can stop killing plastic trees -- after that, it'd be neat to have, say, a Linux Channel. :) >紧接着进行的目标是开发类似SDLoad的东西，这样我就可以停止砍伐塑胶树了(注3) -- 之後呢，就几乎可肯定说，能有一个Linux频道了。 (笑) 译注3：SDLoad能够引导至SD卡执行程式，所以不用再烧一堆废光碟(塑胶) Yeah, Linux would be a great addition to the Wii. You mentioned giving people ideas they could pursue on their own? Do you mean people in your circle or do you plan on releasing the information to the public? 是阿，Linux在Wii上应该是一个好的附加功能。你刚不是提到说能给大家一些得以 自行开发的方法吗？你的意思是说你周围的人、甚或是你有计画要公开释出相关资料？ >No, I meant the public as a whole. I talked about the address line hack that we'd done -- well, really, tmbinc is the one who finally pulled it off correctly -- in the hopes that others would take that and run with that. I'm not sure it's a super-hot idea for me to go around giving away all sorts of keys -- and besides, I'm hoping others will come up with easier / better ideas. I wanna learn, too! >不，我的意思是把大众视为一个整体。我谈过我们完成有关破解位元定址 (address line) -- 恩，真的，tmbinc就是那个完成艰钜任务的人 -- 希望其他人能够 善加利用。我不确定把这些破解关键赠送出来是否是个疯狂的主意 -- 还有另外， 我希望其他人会提出比较简单/更好的主意。 我也想学！(注4) 译注4：抱歉英文太差，这段有很多不知道改怎麽翻...冏 So do you plan on releasing the information used to create the demo or wait until you have a more viable solution like you mentioned? 那你打算释出你制作DEMO用到的资料吗？或者说如同你提到的，你想等到有更好的 破解方案再释出？ >Unfortunately, we're going to have to wait for a more viable solution. It's pretty hacky right now -- really, we barely pulled it off. There's so much to learn about this system (the Wii in general), since it's been one big black encrypted box until recently. 很不幸的，我们必须等到有一个可行的破解方案。目前是非常时期 -- 真的，我们是侥幸 得以成功的。对於这个系统(Wii)还有很多需要学习的地方，因为是他是一个大的 加密黑盒子，直到最近才被解开。 That's understandable. So you're next goal is for a SD Load Wii Edition. Do you have an estimated time frame on when this would be released and what functionality would it include? 这是可以理解的。所以你的下个目标就是SD Load的Wii版本罗。 你有没有时间表能估计什麽时候能释出呢？它将会包含什麽功能呢？ >It's hard to say -- the time frame on this has been so wacky already. We worked for months with no progress, then would make great strides in a weekend, then get busy with Real Life (tm), etc. As far as functionality goes, it will probably be pretty basic, similar to the original SDLoad -- it will still have to use a GC mem card / SD card adapter, and it will just load .dols. [,,,[ >这很难讲 -- 在这上面定时间表感觉很怪。我们曾做了几个月都没有进度，然後却在 一个星期内有了重大突破，然後在现实生活中忙了起来等等。就目前的功能来说， 它将可能会很简易，就像是原始的SDLoad -- 它仍需要使用GC记忆卡/SD卡转换，而且 只会读取.dol档。 >Much of the file formats, etc, are similar to that of the GameCube (once decrypted, or so I'm told -- I never had one to play with), so people should be able to start with that. I'm not sure what immediate advantages we'll see, though. (vs just running in GC mode) >许多的档案格式等等，都与GameCube版的相似 (指一旦有解密的话，所以我可以说， 我目前为止还都没有得玩)，所以说大家应该可以从那边开始。虽然说我不确定我们会 看到什麽立即性的好处。(与GC模式相比的话) >The things that make the Wii special -- Wiimote, WiiConnect24, channels, etc -- are all different than the GC, and as always, there's no documentation whatsoever. :) >让Wii变得如此独特的这些东西 -- Wii摇杆、Wii 24小时连线、Wii频道等等 -- 都与GC完全不同，还有如往常一般的，没有任何官方文献档案。(笑) Yes, I'm sure a lot of work will have to be done to take advantage of the Wii's extra components. I'm sure there will be a lot of activity in the Wii community now. All in all it's a great start and you've made history. Would you like to say anything else? 是的，我确信还有很多事情要完成以充分利用Wii的额外零件。我确定现在在Wii社群上 将会有很多的活动。总而言之这是一个重大的里程碑，而你创造了历史。 你还有什麽话要补充的吗？ >Only that I'm grateful for the friends that I've made doing this -- and it's been fun, too. I'm glad I was able to play a part. Oh, and tehskeen rulez. >不过，我因为能做到而很感激我的朋友们 -- 而且这也很有趣。 我很荣幸得以参与其中。噢，还有tehskeen rulez(注5)。 译注5：本文的网站 Thanks, I didn't know you were a visitor. 感谢，我之前还不知道你有在浏览我们的网站。 >Sure, thanks for the chat. Yup, I've been around lurking a while, just taking it all in and trying to learn. Tehskeen's always been a nice source of actual real, helpful info when I was trying to figure out how this stuff works and what other people had already tried, so that I could find a way to contribute. >当然，相谈甚欢。呃，我已经潜水好一阵子了，总而言之就是尝试与学习啦。Tehskeen 真的一直以来都是一个很棒的资讯来源网站，这些很有帮助的资讯让我能够了解这些 东西如何运作、还有大家已经尝试了哪些方法，我才能够得以藉此做出贡献。 Okay, take it easy and good luck with your future endeavours. 好吧，放轻松并祝你下一步的计划成功。 >Thanks! I'll be around :) >谢谢！我会一直在大家身边的 (笑) --------------------------------------------------- 希望不会翻得太烂....冏 --

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