作者Price (Price)
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标题Re: [问题] 60年代的球员与90年代的球员
时间Sat Jul 25 00:36:29 2009
首先感谢 bri 兄的好文,太精彩了!!
做些小小的回馈,我试翻这段 Russell 的专访
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/18/macleans-interview-bill-russell/
Maclean’s Interview: Bill Russell
Boston Celtics legend Bill Russell on his big ring, his favourite
coach—and why he won’t visit the Basketball Hall of Fame
Maclean 对 Bill Russell 的专访
关於波士顿赛尔提克一代传奇 Bill Russell,他的特制大戒指、他最爱的
教练、以及他为何不会去参观篮球名人堂。
Q: I read that your grandchild once asked you if you were as good a
basketball player as Michael Jordan, but I never read your answer.
A: I told him, that’s the wrong question. The question is, was
Michael Jordan as good as me.
问:我看过一个消息,有一次你的孙子问你是不是个跟 Michael Jordan一
样棒的篮球员,但我没找到你的答覆。
答:我跟他说那是个错误的问题,应该问「Michael Jordan 有没有跟我一
样棒。」
Q: Wayne Embry, who’s been in Canada with the Toronto Raptors, said
that you were not the greatest player to play basketball but you would
be the first player that he would want if he was going to start a team.
That makes no sense to me.
A: Aha! Well, there’s my whole history, okay? The reason is that when
people talk about great players they’re always talking about the offence,
there are no real adequate stats for defence. When I was in college,
my junior year in college we were 28-and-1. I was MVP at the Final Four.
We won it, okay? I was first team all-American, my team was the number
one defensive team in the nation. At the end of the season they picked
another centre as player of the year. And my second year in the NBA the
players voted me MVP, and the writers voted me second team all-league.
So I’m used to that. But by my way of thinking, individual stats are great
for golf, tennis, and most track and field [events].
问:多伦多暴龙的 Wayne Embry 说你并不是最伟大的篮球员,但如果他要
组一支球队,你会是他想要找的第一个球员。我觉得他的话没啥意义。
答:啊哈! 这得讲到我的整个历史,OK? 原因就是当大家讨论到最伟大的球
员时,他们聊的都是进攻,没有什麽真正够代表性的数据能够阐述防守的价
值。当我念大学打 NCAA 时,大二那年我们的战绩是 28 胜 1 负,我获选
为最後四强的 MVP (按:应该是 MOP 才对,NCAA 没有 MVP ),我们拿到冠
军了 OK ? 我也入选全美大学第一队,我们球队是全国最棒的防守球队。那
个球季结束後,他们选了另一个中锋为年度最佳球员,而不是我。(按: 意
思是这个头衔会给进攻数据较好的人) 我进 NBA的第二个球季,球员们选我
是 MVP,但专栏作家们却只把我放在年度第二队而已,我已经很习惯这类的
对待了。以我的观点,个人数据对於高尔夫球、网球以及大部分的田径比赛
是比较值得赞赏的。
Q: Individual sports.
A: Yes. But I played a team sport. So to my way of thinking, the only
important thing is how does my play impact my team’s winning or losing.
I won MVP five times, I never once led my team in scoring. I led in
rebounding, and I was always second in assists. So, my impact on my team
was offence and defence. But a long time ago, I dismissed individual
honours.
问:你是指那些个人运动。
答:没错,可是我参与的是团队运动,所以对我来说,唯一重要的事情就是
我的表现如何影响球队的胜负。我拿过五座 NBA 年度 MVP ,但我从没当过
队上的得分王。我抢最多的篮板,而且在助攻上排名球队第二 (按:第一当
然是 Bob Cousy ),我对球队的影响可是涵盖攻守两端,但有很长的一段时
间我损失了个人的荣誉。
Q: I notice you’re wearing a big ring.
A: Well, this ring is from NBA commissioner David Stern, who’s a friend
of mine. Years ago, everybody used to ask me, “Which rings do you wear?”
because we won 11 championships with the Boston Celtics. So David had
this ring designed for me. It’s one of a kind. It has a cloverleaf, for
the Celtics, with a six—my number—and on the side it has all 11 NBA
championships. So I don’t have to make that decision anymore about which
ring I’m going to wear.
问:我有注意到你的大戒指。
答:嗯,这是我朋友 NBA 总裁 David Stern 送我的。多年以前,每个人都
会问我「你都戴哪些戒指?」,因为我跟波士顿赛尔提克足足一起赢得十一
座总冠军。於是 David替我订做了这个独一无二的款式,上头有绿色苜蓿的
图案,代表赛尔提克队,有个 6 在上头 --我的背号,周边则是我的十一座
NBA 总冠军。有了这个戒指,我再也不用去考虑要戴哪个冠军戒了。
Q: David Stern did that?
A: Yeah. For my birthday.
问:David Stern 送你的?
答:是阿,我的生日礼物。
Q: I’m really interested in the notion of a team player versus a great
player, because you’re often referred to as the greatest team player
and it seems . . .
A: Inconsistent.
问:我对於团队球员跟伟大球员的话题很有兴趣,因为你通常被认定是个
伟大的团队球员,这似乎...
答:有点矛盾是吗?
Q: . . . that even people in basketball are missing the point.
A: Right, that’s why we won so many championships!
问:似乎篮球界的人士也弄不清这点。
答:没错,这是为何我们可以拿那麽多次总冠军!
Q: I know, you’ve won a lot of championships, and one would think that
players are in it to win championships, so why not look at the example of
people who won championships, and how they did it?
A: I played organized basketball for 21 years, and I was on 18 championship
teams. Now, you could call it luck.
问:我知道,你们赢了很多次总冠军。人们会觉得这群球员靠着团队赢得
冠军。我们为何不谈谈那些拿冠军的例子,而他们又是怎麽办到的?
答:我打了 21 年有组织的篮球,其中有 18 年我在冠军队。现在你可以
说那是幸运。
Q: You could.
A: But I’m perfectly satisfied with it. In fact, I personally reject those
individual things. I don’t know if you know that I have never been to the
Basketball Hall of Fame.
问:你的确是可以。
答:但我对这成果是极度满意,以我的立场,我拒绝那些个人数据,我不
晓得你知不知道我从没去过篮球名人堂。
Q: I’m surprised at that.
A: Well, because if I say that I reject that because of negatives I can’t
turn around and say the positives I’ll accept.
问:这太令我惊讶了!
答:嗯,因为如果我说我拒绝是因为那些负面事物,我不可能转头又说那
些我接受的正面事物。(这段比较难理解,请功力较深的版友赐教)
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3F:推 capalari:专业推 这篇好像针对本系列的某篇文章回文 (挖鼻孔) 07/25 00:41
4F:推 Alfred:推翻译,不过原文後面还有两页喔 07/25 00:47
5F:→ Price:哈,我没注意到还有两页,好好,待我补完 ^^ 07/25 00:49
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7F:推 jonestem:推好久不见的Price大~ 07/25 01:02
8F:推 TheDream:推:应该问 Michael Jordan 有没有跟我一样棒。XD 够豪气 07/25 01:03
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11F:推 celestial318:斗胆嚐试一下...若我因为这些与个人荣耀相关的负面意 07/25 01:23
12F:→ celestial318:涵就将其否定,那麽我也无法表达我对其部分正面意义 07/25 01:23
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14F:推 Phatmen:我的想法大概同楼上 Russell是要表达他对同一个标准的中 07/25 01:26
15F:→ Phatmen:立看法 很明显他认为团队还是远大於个人数据 07/25 01:26
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20F:→ AIPTT:我拒绝名人堂 是因为我无法让负面的转为我能接受的正面 07/25 08:06
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25F:推 Creuset:我不能因为它(名人堂)的负面(只注重数据)拒绝它之後, 07/25 14:22
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