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标题Re: [转录][乳摸] Bosh去德州当火箭人?
时间Fri Apr 30 23:52:08 2010
※ [本文转录自 Rockets 看板]
作者: lucifer1C1 (lucifer1C 1) 看板: Rockets
标题: Re: [转录][乳摸] Bosh去德州当火箭人?
时间: Fri Apr 30 23:51:44 2010
原文恕删.....
上一篇文章来源是RealGM转ESPN的部份文章而来的...
而ESPN的原文是
The newsiest element of Brad Miller’s declaration earlier this week that he
has no interest in signing with the New York Knicks this summer was actually
Miller’s disclosure that he is highly interested in staying with Chicago.
Brad Miller 这星期不早之前最新的声明说他今年暑假没有兴趣去纽约....
Miller 也泄露说他对留在公牛有很高的兴趣....
Until Miller mentioned a return to the Bulls, it was widely assumed that he
was headed to the Houston Rockets this offseason as Yao Ming’s backup,
enabling the 33-year-old to reunite with his former coach (Rick Adelman) and
teammate (Kevin Martin) from Sacramento.
在 Miller 提到愿意回公牛之前....
人们普遍的认为他第一个考虑是下季去
Houston Rockets 作为姚明的替补...
使33岁的他可以跟恩师
(Rick Adelman) 与旧队友
(Kevin Martin) 再续前缘...
Miller told local reporters during the Chicago-Cleveland series that he has a
“very, very, very small list” of potential free-agent destinations in mind.
Yet it remains to be seen how much money and interest Chicago will have left
for Miller after chasing the likes of Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and Joe
Johnson.
Miller 在公牛跟骑士的系列赛时告诉当地的记者在他成为自由球员之後...
他有一个有意愿与之签约的"
非常非常小的球队名单"在他脑袋中....
但也要看公牛在对
Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh 和
Joe Johnson 出价後还有多少银弹
来留住Miller.
Houston, meanwhile, is indeed interested in Miller as a secondary target
after the Rockets make their own hard sign-and-trade push for a marquee free
agent. But one source said this week that the Rockets-Miller link has been
overstated at such an early juncture, with the start of free agency still two
months away.
Houston 也把 Miller 当作在有相当困难度的先签後换完成後想签下来的第二目标.
但有一个消息说火箭跟 Miller之间的联结是被夸大的.
离自由市场开市还有足足两个月...
The Rockets’ No. 1 free-agent target? Sources say it’s still Bosh, who
earlier this season said the idea of playing in his hometown of Dallas holds
limited appeal … but hasn’t said anything to suggest that he wouldn’t play
somewhere else in his home state.
火箭在自由市场大乱斗中第一目标到底是谁呢?
有消息来源指称火箭的目标一直是Bosh.
Bosh在球季早期说他有一个想要去离家乡达拉斯不远的球队打球的想法.
但并没有说出任何可猜测他到底会去哪个在德州的球队.
If the Raptors and Bosh reach the expected conclusion that it’s time for an
amicable divorce, Houston has amassed an enticing cache of sign-and-trade
assets. One source, offering one small example, says that the Raptors are
intrigued by young forward Jordan Hill, whom the Rockets extracted from the
Knicks in the Tracy McGrady three-way deal in February.
一但 Bosh 跟 暴龙 达成了共同的结论之时...
他们之间就是分手的时刻了.....
Houston 已经顺利的累积了诱人的交易材料来达成先签後换...
有一个消息指出....
火箭准备把年轻的前锋
Jordan Hill(今年8th pick)拿来当作对暴龙的补偿....
Jordan Hill 是在今年2月在T-Mac跟纽约的三方交易中拿到的...
As a (reasonably) big-market team -- with low-key cornerstones like Martin
and Aaron Brooks, and a franchise player in Yao Ming who might not be a
franchise player any more after being forced to sit out an entire season --
Houston can also offer the stage and go-to guy spotlight Bosh covets.
做为一个大市场球队(中国市场+美国第4大都市)
以及低调的球队基石
Kevin Martin 和
Aaron Brooks...
招牌球员
Yao Ming 在伤後的未知状况....
Houston 可以提供足够的舞台与灯光给 Bosh 来发挥...
Yet it’s believed that the Raptors, if Bosh indeed proves willing to join
the Rockets via sign-and-trade, will try to foist Hedo Turkoglu on Houston as
part of the deal. Would the Rockets be willing to take on Turkoglu’s
contract ($43.8 million over the next four years) and surrender, say, Trevor
Ariza in return to clinch Bosh’s arrival? The cost of adding Bosh along with
Turkoglu would likely be prohibitive for the Rockets, but Toronto certainly
figures to try.
如果Bosh有意愿加入火箭队....
相信暴龙一定会尝试把 Hedo Turkoglu 加入先签後换的交易包裹中.....
火箭会对暴龙提出收下 Turkoglu 4年43.8M的长约要求投降吗?
Ariza 在Bosh到来後会变成怎样呢?
Hedo Turkoglu 的长约可能使得火箭对收下Bosh的代价增加因此望而却步...
但暴龙一定会努力尝试...
Source:
http://tinyurl.com/25reajj
Translated by myself
Bosh+Turkoglu....
有谁愿意一起吃下呢?
不要Bosh翻脸不认人自己找有薪资空间的球队来先签後换...
一样可以到想要的球队...
暴龙还什麽都吃不到....
Bosh想去哪可是Bosh来做决定呢........
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1F:→ dOodoOhOw :Bosh:你敢叫我箭人我要告到朝廷 04/30 23:54
2F:推 jonesking :楼上不知所云 04/30 23:54
3F:推 alegoo :˙楼下不知所措 04/30 23:54
4F:推 Janius :如果是火枪兵+龙王,火箭要多少人才能换阿= = 04/30 23:55
5F:→ Janius :而且火箭GM向来不喜欢吃长肥约,而火枪兵... 04/30 23:55
6F:推 lovea :进良!!!!! 04/30 23:56
7F:推 bibbykings :箭人箭人箭人~~~~~~~~~ 04/30 23:57
在那边箭人箭人的叫法请停止....
我辛辛苦苦翻译这篇文章.....
可不是在为了看你们开这个不好笑的玩笑的....
我是火箭迷....
开这种玩笑会很不爽....
※ 编辑: lucifer1C1 来自: 220.134.39.3 (05/01 00:02)
8F:推 alegoo :˙我说大人 05/01 00:00
9F:推 ThankYou9527:火箭人Roger Clemens表示:____ 05/01 00:01
10F:推 nn70 : 我箭人叫你大人就行 05/01 00:02
11F:推 timk7 :推这篇的详细,借转~ 05/01 00:04
※ timk7:转录至看板 Raptors 05/01 00:05
12F:推 rwa123456 :好吧对不起原PO 可以的话帮我删推文 05/01 00:05
13F:→ rwa123456 :我也是一时兴起 = = 05/01 00:06
14F:推 alegoo :˙原PO不要太在意 辛苦你啦 NBA板需要你这种人才!!!! 05/01 00:07
15F:推 magicqw :总版的废物很多又不是不知道....看看就好 05/01 00:12
16F:推 jerod :这麽大的包裹 火箭要吃下也很不容易 而说Bosh有主导 05/01 00:13
17F:推 demongreg :不好意思请问一下第一段Bran Miller是外号还是笔误? 05/01 00:14
感谢指证....我笔误了.....是Brad不是Bran...
18F:→ jerod :权也不全然 火箭也不在薪资上限下 交易必须对等 05/01 00:15
19F:推 ymca900 :说实在 芝麻官的梗用在这还蛮好笑的 XD 05/01 00:15
20F:推 Maxslack :Turkoglu.....姚明终於有人能给他好好传球了吗? 05/01 00:17
21F:→ jerod :暴龙如果拿不到好的报价 直接放弃Bosh 空出来的薪资 05/01 00:17
22F:→ jerod :还比较好 更别提如果Bosh想拿到最高涨幅的薪资 05/01 00:18
23F:→ jerod :还必须要靠暴龙先签後换 05/01 00:18
24F:→ jerod :最後那段有误 Bosh要先签後换要看暴龙脸色 不然就自 05/01 00:20
这里解说一下....
最後一段不是我误会...
而是Bosh想要到火箭拿超过中产的合约的话....
还是一定要先签後换...
重点是Bosh已经有想去已达薪资上限的球队
而不想去空有薪资空间的球队
Bosh要到火箭或者已达薪资空间上限的球队的话...
有两条路可走...
第一条路是让暴龙用大鸟条款续约...
然後跟想去的球队来做先签後换....
这条路必须暴龙跟Bosh跟想去的球队都答应才行...
这对Bosh是最好的选择...
因为Bosh可以签6年薪资涨幅也比较大...
第二条路是Bosh找有薪资空间的球队签约...
签个2+1年....
然後在跟想去的球队先签後换....
等到这2+1年走完...
再用大鸟条款来续约....
这条路的优势在於完全不用理会暴龙愿不愿意点头....
有薪资空间的球队还很多...
比一定要只跟暴龙谈好才行的第一条路来说选择性较多....
也很容易成功....
走这条路暴龙就是白白损失Bosh但得到薪资空间.....
Bosh再未来的几年也会少拿一些钱...
不过Bosh现在才26...
26+3年後也才29....
还是有可能再拿一个顶约的...
29+6=35...
他到35岁都可以拿顶约......
但假使现在签6年的话....
26+6=32....
32岁以後要拿到顶约的机会就小很多了....
等於差3年的顶约时间.....
第二条路也未必对Bosh是不利的....
毕竟多32~35岁的时间可以拿顶约应该够补这段时期亏的了...
但也有风险...
就是26~29岁的时间他都必须维持在顶峰状况....
别人才愿意跟Bosh在续长约.........
所以我没误会喔......
25F:推 rahim1211 :蛮好笑的+1 原PO不要介意啦 05/01 00:20
26F:→ jerod :己直接去跟别队签就好了 05/01 00:20
27F:嘘 pho503 :你好认真 05/01 00:21
28F:→ rahim1211 :火箭拿到Bosh的话,明年西区说不定出现50胜进不了季後 05/01 00:21
29F:→ rahim1211 :赛的囧样... 05/01 00:22
30F:→ monmo :其实感觉火枪兵很搭火箭耶...除了防守差点 但是他 05/01 00:22
31F:→ monmo :的组织能力搭Yao+AB+Bosh+K-Mart会很可怕.... 05/01 00:23
32F:推 sxing6326 :抵销无脑嘘文 原PO才真的别跟某个爱乱的认真 05/01 00:23
33F:推 disney0212 :国王迷已经要跟火箭迷密不可分了吗... 05/01 00:23
34F:嘘 M2208305 :原PO太认真 总板不需要这种认真的只需要更高级的钓客 05/01 00:24
35F:推 permoon :推原po辛苦翻译。 05/01 00:25
36F:推 black14pkl :不好意思最近没注意暴龙 请问火枪兵这季打得如何? 05/01 00:26
37F:→ black14pkl :要是还像前一季那般好用,其实我觉得这约吃下去不错 05/01 00:27
38F:推 kyo90637 :好文推 可是颜色红的看起来眼睛好痛@@" 05/01 00:36
39F:推 EeLong :问题是火枪兵太贵了....这个养老约很难吃的下吧 05/01 00:36
40F:→ demongreg :原来是笔误,因为d和n还蛮远的,想说该不会是外号吧 05/01 00:36
41F:→ demongreg :谢谢回应喔^^ 05/01 00:37
42F:→ EeLong :如果火箭也有烂约要清,要交易火箭才比较有可能成立 05/01 00:37
43F:→ EeLong :虽然火枪兵看起来就跟yao很搭的样子... 05/01 00:37
44F:推 hope452162 :义大利人要成为新龙王? 05/01 00:40
45F:推 bakingss :推原PO认真!!! 05/01 00:46
46F:推 pheather :找其他球队Sign&Trade是不可行的,因为S&T只适用在自 05/01 00:48
47F:→ pheather :家的FA身上,也就是说只有暴龙对Bosh有S&T的权利 05/01 00:48
48F:→ pheather :(假如传言为真)那对火箭是不利的,因为火箭除了S&T没 05/01 00:50
49F:推 rich780501 :龙王+火枪兵好贵... 05/01 00:50
50F:推 kingroy :Scoal先签後换+Hill+配菜换Bosh先签後换其实还不错 05/01 00:50
※ 编辑: lucifer1C1 来自: 220.134.39.3 (05/01 00:53)
51F:→ pheather :有任何拿得到Bosh的方式,但三方协议中应该还是Bosh占 05/01 00:51
52F:→ pheather :有最重要的位置,因为他可以接受任何其他队伍的报价走 05/01 00:52
53F:→ pheather :人,让暴龙什麽也拿不到 05/01 00:52
54F:→ pheather :差别在於透过暴龙S&T他可以拿到最大6年$125M的总薪资 05/01 00:53
55F:→ pheather :直接和其他球队签约他只能拿到最多5年$96M的总薪资 05/01 00:53
感谢解释...
我不晓得S&T只能跟原队....
那这样火箭要得到Bosh只能跟暴龙谈了....
上面我写的东西错了....
嘛....
错了就错了....
现在改正也显得虚诿...
就留着让我作为警惕吧......
※ 编辑: lucifer1C1 来自: 220.134.39.3 (05/01 01:06)
56F:推 JokePtt :顶约过明年夏天 一般判断会限缩... 05/01 01:12
57F:推 DDMO :这边也推一个~~ 05/01 02:29
58F:推 Gerrard1004 :推辛苦翻译@@ 05/01 03:12
59F:推 poki1022 :在暴龙叫迅猛龙 在火箭绝对教太空梭 05/01 07:46
60F:推 chancewen :写得很好GJ!! 05/01 08:08
61F:推 homocat :推 05/01 08:15
62F:推 forever23 :推 05/01 13:03
63F:推 small2th :推~ 05/02 01:12