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※ [本文转录自 Kings 看板 #1B_4MLIF ] 作者: Martin23 (宫城马丁!) 看板: Kings 标题: [外电] Draft Express 体测分析 时间: Wed May 26 05:48:02 2010 http://0rz.tw/7lHgM Analyzing the NBA Combine Measurements by: Jonathan Givony - President May 22, 2010 另一篇体测分析 来自Draft Express (前面略 一些前言跟有趣的) Average Heights/Wingspans/Standing Reaches 体测平均 位置 样本数 平均高度(裸足) 平均体重 平均臂展 平均站立可摸 PG 8 6'1.69 200 6'6.1 8'2.4 SG 8 6'3.69 207 6'8.3 8'5 SF 10 6'6.33 212 6'10.9 8'9.6 PF 13 6'8.12 232 7'1.7 9'0.2 C 9 6'9.86 262 7'4.4 9'3.3 Notable measurements 值得注意的 -John Wall’s measurements are simply outstanding for a point guard. Physically, he looks superior to Derrick Rose (6-1 ½ without shoes, 6-8 wingspan) and Russell Westbrook (6-2 ¼ without shoes, 6-7 ¾ wingspan), two players he’s often compared with. At 6-2 ¾ without shoes, with a 6-9 wingspan, Wall should have no problem defending NBA shooting guards, making him extremely versatile in the sense that he can be paired in the same backcourt with another combo guard, such as Gilbert Arenas. Add in the fact that Wall was the biggest star of the weekend in both the NBA team and media interviews, and this combine could not have gone any better for him. John Wall - 约翰墙先生最常被拿来跟Rose还有Westbrook比较 然而Wall的体测结果甚至比那两位都还要更好 人高手长 让他守到2号位也不是问题 就算跟另一个双能卫一起放在後场(Ex:Arenas) 也不是问题 总而言之Wall来势汹汹 体测结果不过是锦上添花 The gap between Wall and Turner appears to be too wide to close at this point, barring something disastrous happening in Washington. 目前Wall跟Turner之间的差距越来越大 除非北韩把华盛顿给炸了 不然巫师闭着眼睛也知道该选谁 -Evan Turner has short arms relative to his height, coming out at a solid 6-5 3/4 without shoes, with a 6-8 wingspan. His wingspan is in fact shorter than that of John Wall, despite being 3 inches taller. That didn’t seem to affect Turner at the college level as a rebounder (9.2 per game) or as a defender (he’ s one of the best perimeter stoppers in this draft), but it will be interesting to see how this affects his finishing ability in the NBA. Turner is considered average from an explosiveness standpoint. Evan Turner- 一切都不错 就是臂展短了些 甚至比Wall还短 不过这也没什麽大不了 Turner在NCAA依旧是抓篮板高手(平均9.2个) 也是相当好的外围防守者 唯一要注意的就是进了NBA之後 他的臂展会不会影响到他的finish能力 Interestingly enough, Turner’s measurements are quite similar to those of Brandon Roy (6-5 ¼ without shoes, 6-8 wingspan), the player he’s most often compared to. Turner常被拿来跟Roy比较 巧的是他的体测结果跟Roy也很像 -DeMarcus Cousins’ measurements are phenomenal. He stands 6-9 ½ without shoes, with a gigantic 7-5 ¾ wingspan and a standing reach of 9-5. He’s a physical specimen at the center position, with measurements similar to that of Brook Lopez (just much bulkier), and superior to those of Dwight Howard (who was 18 at the time he was measured and could have very well grown since), Greg Oden and Al Jefferson. DeMarcus Cousins- 表弟的体测结果相当好 标准的中锋身材 体测数据跟Brook Lopez蛮像的 甚至要比Dwight Howard(18岁时) 老脸Oden Al Jefferson 还要好 The only concern is his high body fat percentage of 16.3%, which ranks as t 12th-highest figure of any player in our database. By comparison, Mike Sweetney came in at 14.1% and Shaquille O’Neal 12.2%. What’s alarming here is that Cousins is considered to be in the best shape of his life at the moment. Both he and his agent are making a big deal of the fact that he’s been eating as healthy (“seafood and salad diet”) and working out as intensely as he ever has. NBA teams are worried about Cousins resting on his laurels once he’s been drafted and signs a contract. This measurement won’t ease any of those concerns. 好了 又要讲到他的16.3%体脂肪 根据徐展元刚刚查到的资料 16.3%是有史以来的第12高 Mike Sweetney(你哪位= =)只有14.1% 欧肥也只有12.2% 一般认为表弟目前的身体状态 大概已经是有生以来最好的(结果只有这样) Cousins表示他现在都只吃海鲜跟莎拉 并且还很认真的在做训练 一旦他被选中之後 他还会努力节食并且训练吗 -Derrick Favors’ measurements (6-8 ¾ without shoes, 7-4 wingspan, 9-2 standing reach) are excellent as well, giving him enough size and length to slide into the center position (once he bulks up) and giving him terrific dimensions for a power forward. As the youngest player in the draft, Favors needs to continue to add bulk to his 245-pound frame, but that doesn’t appear to be an issue at all. As time moves on, he will continue to fill out and add muscle in the weight room. Derrick Favors- 身为此次选秀最年轻的选手 Favors的数据也很棒 打PF很好 加重一点就可以打中锋 不过别担心 进NBA之後该大的地方就会自己大起来 我是说肌肉 Interestingly enough, Favors’ measurements compare quite favorably with those of Dwight Howard, a player he draws some (perhaps slightly optimistic) comparisons to. Howard measured just a quarter of an inch taller than Favors at the same age, was five pounds lighter and had a wingspan just half an inch longer. His measurements are comparable to the likes of Chris Bosh, Nene and Emeka Okafor, and are superior to those of Al Horford, another player who he’s often compared to. Favors数据跟Howard有点像 像是Bosh Nene还有Okafor那一型的 虽然常被拿来跟Al Horford比 不过他的数据比Horford更好些 -Al-Farouq Aminu measured fairly well too, coming in at 6-7 ¼ without shoes with a massive 7-3 ¼ wingspan. Despite his unimpressive interviews—he looked fairly unenthusiastic and stated repeatedly that he sees himself almost strictly as a small forward—he has enough height and length to see minutes at power forward in a small lineup. His measurements compare favorably to those of Josh Smith (6-7 without shoes, 7-0 wingspan), Jeff Green (6-7 ¾, 7-1 Danny Granger (6-7 ½, 7-1 ½). Al-Farouq Aminu- 阿米牛数据也很棒 虽然他被访问时都很冷淡 而且一直跳针说他真的只是SF的料 不过他在比较矮小的阵容中还是可以去打PF 科科 比较像是Josh Smith, Jeff Green, Danny Granger Wesley Johnson isn’t far behind him at 6-6 ¼ without shoes with an excellent 7-1 wingspan. Wesley Johnson- 跟阿米牛相差不远 (按:评语怎麽只有一行 你是Dororo吗) -Greg Monroe not only has the size, girth and length to play the center position (at 6-9 ¾ without shoes, 247 pounds and a 7-2 ¼ wingspan), that may be his optimal position. He’s a unique player when taking into account his dimensions, basketball IQ and passing ability. He looks like a pretty safe bet to be picked in the top 10. The only concern is his (slightly) higher than normal body fat percentage (11.2%), which probably wouldn’t be an issue if teams didn’t already have reservations about his passion for the game. Greg Monroe- 梦萝打中锋很棒 他的身材 篮球IQ 还有传球能力 能让它变成一个独特的球员 他会是前十顺位的安全牌 唯一的小瑕疵就是11.2%的体脂肪稍微高了点 -Larry Sanders’ measurements (6-9 ¼ without shoes, 7-5 ¾ wingspan, 9-4 standing reach) are eerily similar to those of DeMarcus Cousins (6-9 ½, 7-5 ¾ , 9-5), minus 70 pounds (292 to 222). As one NBA assistant GM told us—“if you can put 20 pounds on that kid, he [can] be an absolute force in the paint.” Larry Sanders- 测量结果跟表弟几乎是同一个模子刻出来的 (除了体重) 根据隔壁老王(某个助理GM)表示 如果他再增重20磅 他可以帮你管好禁区 -Dexter Pittman is quite a unique physical specimen in his own right, measuring 6-9 ½ without shoes, with a 7-6 wingspan. He also has the biggest hands in this draft (a new stat) at 10.5 inches. Dexter Pittman- 独特的大只身材 最大的手掌(10.5寸) The fact that Pittman tips the scale at over 300 pounds and measuring nearly 21% body fat (fourth highest in history after Chris Marcus, Oliver Miller and James Lang) tells us that he still has a long ways to go with his conditioning. But if he’s willing to commit himself, he could carve out a long and lucrative professional career. 300磅的吓人体重 史上第四高的21%体脂肪 加油好吗 不过如果有恒心有毅力 他的职业生涯也会是不错的 -Ekpe Udoh also measured quite nicely: a legit 6-8 ¾ without shoes, with a 7-4 ½ wingspan. He has the size and length to play either the power forward or center spot comfortably, especially if he adds weight to his 237-pound frame. Ekpe Udoh- 数据都不错 打PF打C都可以 最好再增重一些 -Daniel Orton’s measurements are nearly identical at 6-8 ¾ without shoes, with a 7-4 ¼ wingspan. Add in the fact that he’s 269 pounds and he clearly has the dimensions of a NBA center. He does need to work on his 13.8% body fat percentage though. Daniel Orton- 是打中锋的料 不过体脂肪13.8% 加油好吗 -The freakiest measurements of all belong to Hassan Whiteside. The soon-to-be 21-year-old freshman bafflingly elected to arrive for measurements in flip-flops (a true story), which only gave him an additional inch in shoes (6-10 ½ without shoes, 6-11 ½ with)—as opposed to Cole Aldrich who gained 2 ¼ inches. With that said, he possesses one of the longest wingspans in NBA pre-draft camp history at 7-7. 本日最怪异 Hassan Whiteside VS Cole Aldrich 白边这家伙 竟然在测量这一天只穿了个夹脚拖来(!?!?) 这双楼下杂货店买的蓝白夹脚拖 只让他穿鞋之後高了一寸 有没有搞错阿 你隔壁那个阿机机 他可是穿了郭彦甫卖的增高鞋垫 穿鞋之後整整高了2 1/4寸耶!! 不过白边的臂展7'7 是史上数一数二的 -Looking for a poor man’s John Wall? Take a look at Dominique Jones. He tied with Wall for longest wingspan among point guards in the 2010 class at 6-9 ¼, and measured out a half an inch taller as well. Jones is getting more and more buzz as we predicted in an article a few weeks ago, which highlighted him as one of the biggest sleepers in the draft. Dominique Jones- 买不起John Wall吗? 这里有一个穷人板好便宜的 Dominique Jones有跟Wall一样的臂展 也比Wall高半寸 厝边巷尾已经越来越多人在讨论他了 -Also measuring nicely among the point guards was Armon Johnson: 6-2 without shoes, with a 6-8 wingspan. Eric Bledsoe came out a bit short at 6-0 ¼ without shoes, but his 6-7 ½ wingspan does help compensate for that. On the other end of the spectrum we find Jon Scheyer, the lone player to measure a wingspan shorter than his height, at 6-4 ¾ without shoes, with a 6-3 ¼ wingspan. 其他PG也有不错的数字 像是Armon Johnson, Eric Bledsoe 不过Jon Scheyer这家伙臂展还比身高短 怪怪 -Among wing players, Xavier Henry looks terrific, as expected, at 6-5 ¼ without shoes, with an excellent 6-11 ¼ wingspan. He has ample size to play either shooting guard or small forward, which should help ease his transition in defending perimeter players at the NBA level. Xavier Henry- 你棒棒 这些数据要打SG或是SF都可以 在NBA要防守到外围去应该也不是问题 -Terrico White doesn’t always play like the point guard many project him as, but that doesn’t seem to be an issue considering he’s 6-3 ¾, with a 6-9 wingspan--more than adequate size for an NBA shooting guard. White had a very good weekend here at the combine, looking smooth and polished in the drills and showing off a terrific shooting stroke. He’s a chiseled specimen as well. He has an absurdly low body fat percentage of 3.7%. Terrico White- 去打SG吧 PG不适合你 这个周末表现得很不错 投篮佳 3.7%体脂肪 肌肉线条不错 -At 6-2 without shoes, with a 6-7 ¼ wingspan, Avery Bradley might just be able to get by at the shooting guard position, which appears to be a more natural fit for him. Numerous NBA executives pointed out how impressed they were with him this weekend. His stock appears to be rising considerably at the moment. Adding strength to his 180-pound frame looks like a big priority for the freshman at the moment. Avery Bradley- 打SG勉强ok 不过在各队高层间的评价不错 後势看涨 体重180磅 现在要做的就是赶快吃胖 -Willie Warren is not particularly long (6-6 wingspan), but he should be fine seeing minutes at the shooting guard position, considering his 6-2 ½ height. Measuring a legit 6-4 in shoes was a hurdle he needed to clear, and he managed to do so. Willie Warren- SG一只 -Luke Babbitt (6-7 ½ without shoes, 6-11 ¼ wingspan) and Paul George (6-7 ¾ without shoes, 6-11 ¼ wingspan) played in the same conference, play the same position and are getting buzz from NBA executives thanks to their impressive measurements and shooting displays at the combine. Their stocks appear to be on the rise. Luke Babbitt- Paul George- 评测佳 投篮佳 後势看涨 -Gordon Hayward’s wingspan won’t knock anyone’s socks off at 6-7 ¾, compared to his 6-8 measurement in shoes. Gordon Hayward- 普普通通 没啥好说 -Patrick Patterson looks pretty solid at the power forward position, standing 6-9 and change in shoes, with a 7-1 ¼ wingspan. Combine that with his outstanding interviews in Chicago (some teams called him the most impressive interview of anyone in this class) and he seems to be doing quite well at the moment. Patrick Patterson- 看起来是个相当不错的PF身材 有些球队认为他是访谈表现最出色的一个 股价上涨中 -Ryan Richards capped off a spectacular weekend from his perspective, measuring 6-10 ½ without shoes, with a 7-1 ½ wingspan. Even though he has struggled to find a long-term home for himself in Europe, the 19-year old could very well be drafted in the second round and stashed for a year or two in the D-League. Richards is one of the biggest mystery prospects in this draft after playing in Switzerland this past season. NBA teams won’t have the luxury of evaluating him at the adidas EuroCamp in Treviso from what he told us. Ryan Richards- 裸足6-10 ½寸 臂展7-1 ½ 去年在瑞士打球 19岁的他可能会在第二轮被选 放到D-League练个一两季 --



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◆ From: 140.112.250.221 ※ 编辑: freetempo 来自: 140.112.250.221 (05/26 15:05)
1F:→ QooQ5566 :有相关预测选秀得网站吗 ? hoop ? 05/26 15:06
※ 编辑: freetempo 来自: 140.112.250.221 (05/26 15:06)
2F:推 jonesking :收录 05/26 15:06
3F:推 xw668 :john wall感觉好稳 05/26 15:08
4F:→ xw668 :体测又比rose好 真加分 05/26 15:08
5F:推 Agnesb0924 :中锋是不是有点稍矮了 05/26 15:09
6F:推 RobertAlexy :21%体脂 这是运动员身材吗? 05/26 15:09
7F:→ ksk0516 :比玫瑰和西溪体测还好,真令人期待 05/26 15:10
8F:→ SHITinHeaven:3.7%体脂肪真恐怖 平均是多少阿?? 05/26 15:11
9F:推 monmo :郭彦甫没去参加体测吗? 05/26 15:13
10F:推 SunDing :哈哈 我好像是17%耶XDXDXD 05/26 15:15
11F:推 JoshSmith :Mike Sweetney 6-8 前尼克胖子小甜甜 05/26 15:16
12F:推 baller0allen:推梦罗 05/26 15:16
13F:推 Rizzi :有个梦字的都不行!!! 05/26 15:17
14F:推 tidalwave :好奇Oliver Miller体脂肪多少~ 05/26 15:18
15F:推 semicoma :矮阿明不知道体脂肪多少 05/26 15:19
16F:→ jonestem :Mike Sweetney 小胖子 有段时间在公牛 05/26 15:25
17F:推 Uber :欧肥12.2%<==这是刚进NBA的欧瘦 还是现在的欧肥? 05/26 15:36
18F:推 vannistl :靠...JW那什麽臂展阿...像鸟一样了 05/26 15:37
19F:→ vannistl :应该是欧瘦~欧壮时期 现在的话应该不太可能~XDD 05/26 15:37
20F:→ vannistl :裸足6-2 ¾穿个鞋就6'4了 1,2号通杀 05/26 15:39
21F:推 gaiaesque :Freetempo good !!! 05/26 15:56
22F:推 xw668 05/26 15:59
23F:推 jeffl0402 :Cousins那段怪怪的 Lopez的体测数据并不怎麽样 05/26 16:06
DAING:转录至看板 NBA_Fantasy 05/26 16:18
24F:推 DAING :借转3Q 05/26 16:18
25F:推 flicker36 :真羡慕 黑人的手真长 平均比身高多4 5寸 05/26 16:32
26F:推 kelvinchang : 05/26 17:17
27F:推 ThreeNG :好羡慕体脂肪都好低喔 ~"~ 05/26 17:23
28F:推 demon616 :他是梦萝 不是绮梦阿~ 05/26 17:51
29F:推 twbeerbeer :选JOHN WALL可能会後悔喔 05/26 18:17
30F:推 LilBing :DeMarcus Cousins:Call Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 05/26 18:19
31F:推 foolpchome :欧肥12.2% 05/26 18:28
32F:→ keith2822 :借转暴龙版QQ 05/26 18:30
keith2822:转录至看板 Raptors 05/26 18:30
33F:推 edison321 :有看有推 05/26 18:34
34F:推 kingroy :千万不要选胖子阿..要选多少个才有一只欧肥阿.. 05/26 18:37
35F:推 tPA :感谢介绍 05/26 20:03
36F:推 NightElf :借转两个中後段签板 05/27 00:02
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