https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6848751/2025/12/01/clippers-standings-record/ 其实就是Law Murray对这个月2-13败快艇的一些记录 After spending Friday blowing a 16-point lead at Intuit Dome to a Memphis Grizzlies team missing four point guards, the LA Clippers on Saturday hosted a 5-15 Dallas Mavericks team missing their four top bigs: Anthony Davis, P.J. Washington, Daniel Gafford and Dereck Lively II. The Clippers led by as many as 10 points and blew that lead, too. Now, the Clippers are the 5-15 team, losers of 13 of 15 games in November. This was arguably the worst month in the 56-year history of the organization. The Clippers have lost 13 games in a month before. They’ve also had worse 20-game starts. But this isn’t like their inaugural season in Buffalo, when the Braves went 4-15 in December 1970. It isn’t like the San Diego team that was 1-15 in March 1982, nor the 1988-89 team that lost 28 of 29 to begin the 1989 calendar year. 在星期五主场丢掉16分领先败给缺少4个控球後卫的灰熊之後，洛杉矶快艇星期六主场迎战 5胜15败且缺少阵中4位顶尖长人--Anthony Davis、PJ Washington、Daniel Gafford与 Dereck Lively II--的独行侠。快艇最多领先10分也同样丢失了那个领先。 现在，快艇才是那支5胜15败的队伍，在11月的15场输了13场。这可能是56年队史最糟糕的 一个月。 快艇有过单月输掉13场比赛。他们也有过更糟的前20场开局。但今年可不是他们在水牛城 的队史第一季，他们在1970的12月打出了4胜15败。这也不是他们在圣地牙哥快艇的1982年 3月打出1胜15败、更不是1988-89那支用29场里28败开启1989年的那支快艇。 These aren’t the 1994-95 Clippers who started 0-16, with the first 13 of those losses occurring in November. And there was the franchise’s first year playing at Staples Center, when those Clippers lost 27 of 30 games during February and March of 2000. March 2010 was the last time the Clippers lost 13 games in a month. Blake Griffin, the No. 1 pick in the 2009 NBA Draft, had yet to play a regular-season game for the team. When Griffin suited up for the first time, his 2010-11 Clippers started 4-16. The Clips haven’t had a losing season since acquiring Chris Paul via trade in December 2011. In fact, the other 29 NBA teams have had at least one losing season since the last time the Clippers’ last one in 2010-11. The only time the Clippers had a 10-loss month between the start of the 2011-12 season and the end of last season was when they went 4-10 in November 2017. That team, coached by Doc Rivers, recovered to win 42 games. 这不是1994-95以0胜16败开季的快艇(其中13败发生在11月)。而且那是队史在Staples Center的第一季，快艇以30场里面输了27场度过了2000年的二月及三月。 2010年3月已经是快艇最後一次单月输13场比赛了。2009年状元郎Blake Griffin那年还没 为快艇打过任何一场比赛。当Griffin正式上场时，他的2010-11年快艇4胜16败。 快艇自从2011年12月透过交易来Chris Paul之後再也没有过任何一个胜率不足5成的赛季。 事实上，在这期间NBA剩下所有29支球队都至少有一年胜率没有超过五成。上一次快艇有一 个月输超过10场比赛已经是2017年11月的事情。而那支由Doc Rivers执教的球队最终扭转 了这个情况，赢下了42场比赛。 This Clippers team is on track to win 20 games this season, and the context makes it worse. While its the 20th time they’ve lost at least 13 games in a month, these Clippers were expected to maybe win 50, as they did the past two seasons. The warning signs of this season potentially going sideways were always present. The Clippers fortified their roster with age this offseason. The quietest month in the NBA offseason was dominated by an Aspiration scandal that put chairman Steve Ballmer and star forward Kawhi Leonard in the crosshairs of a league investigation. 现在这支快艇如果直接放大到整季将只会赢20场比赛，而内容更加糟糕。虽然这已经是队 史第20次单月输至少13场比赛，这支快艇原本是被预期可能要赢下50场比赛，如同他们过 去两季做到的事情。 这个赛季可能走向失控的警讯，其实早已存在。快艇队在这个休赛季以老将补强了阵容。 而在原本应该是整个NBA最平静的休赛月份里，却被一场Aspiration 丑闻占据了焦点，让 球队主席Steve Ballmer与明星前锋Kawhi Leonard一同陷入联盟调查的风暴之中。 Top offseason acquisition Bradley Beal had a knee scope in the offseason, was limited in training camp and didn’t play any preseason games with Leonard or All-NBA point guard James Harden. The Clippers began their season by visiting the Utah Jazz, the worst team in the league last season, and lost by 21 points and trailed by 37 at one point. The following week, the Clippers failed to break 80 points on the road against the Golden State Warriors. But when November started, the Clippers had a 3-2 record after a Leonard game-winning buzzer beater against the New Orleans Pelicans. Now, the Clippers are already on life support. 休赛季的重磅补强Bradley Beal在休赛期进行了膝盖关节镜手术，训练营受到限制，热身 赛也没有和Leonard或NBA年度队等级的控球後卫James Harden一起出赛。快艇队以作客对 战上季联盟最差犹他爵士开启球季，结果以21分落败，甚至一度落後到37分。接下来的一 周，快艇在客场对金州勇士的比赛甚至得分不到80分。 但进入十一月时，快艇靠着Leonard对纽澳良鹈鹕的压哨绝杀，战绩一度来到3胜2败。如今 ，快艇已经处於命悬一线的状态。 Here are 20 thoughts that illustrate the worst month in team history: 1. The only game Harden missed this month was when the Clippers visited the Phoenix Suns on Nov. 6; Harden missed the matchup for personal reasons. In the team’s other 14 outings, Harden averaged 29.8 points, 8.5 assists and 6.3 rebounds in 36.8 minutes per game. It took extraordinary Harden performances for the Clippers to win the two games that they did this month: a 41-point triple-double to escape Dallas in double overtime and a franchise-record 55 points to escape an afternoon start against the Charlotte Hornets. 2. Harden is 36 years old. The plan was never for him to be relied on this much, let alone with his play failing to lead to wins. 以下是20个观察，说明这支球队经历了队史最糟糕的一个月: 1.本月Harden唯一缺席的比赛，是11月6日作客凤凰城太阳，那场他因为个人因素未出赛。 在其他14场比赛中，Harden场均36.8分钟，能缴出29.8分、8.5助攻、6.3篮板。 快艇本月唯二的胜场，靠的都是 Harden 近乎超人级的表现： 面对独行侠的比赛，他砍下41分大三元，才在双延长逃出生天。 面对夏洛特黄蜂的下午场，他攻下队史纪录的55分，才勉强赢球。 2. Harden 已经 36 岁了。球队原本从来不是要依赖他到这种程度，更别说他的超神演出 仍无法带来胜利。 3. Leonard played in the first game the Clippers had in November, against a Miami Heat team bringing Norman Powell back to the arena. The Clippers had two days off, while the Heat were on the second night of a back-to-back. Not only did the Clippers blow an 11-point lead, but Leonard also suffered an injury to his right foot that required a 10-game absence and a minutes restriction upon his return. 4. Leonard missed a potential game-winning field goal against the Heat, and the Clippers haven’t won with him since. Even though Leonard is a two-time Defensive Player of the Year, he’s not that caliber of defender now, as he loses his man off the ball, gets beaten in the rare instances he is attacked and is shielded from defending primary scorers often. Remember the Jim Mora playoffs rant? “We gotta worry about winning a game right now, first, before we think about any type of championship,” Leonard said. 3. Leonard在十一月的第一场比赛上场，对手是带着Norman Powell重返球馆的迈阿密热火 。当时快艇休息了两天，而热火是背靠背的第二晚。结果快艇不只把11分领先搞丢， Leonard还右脚受伤，导致他缺席10场比赛，回归後也受到出场时间限制。 4. Leonard 在对热火的比赛中错失了可能的致胜一击，而从那之後，快艇就再也没在他出 赛时赢过球。尽管Leonard曾是两届年度最佳防守球员，但他现在已经不是那个等级的防守 者了——他会在无球时漏掉人、在被攻击的罕见情况下也常被突破，并且经常被保护、不 去防守对方的主要得分手。 还记得 Jim Mora 那段着名的季後赛怒吼吗？ Leonard现在的心情就像那样:"我们现在得先想着怎麽赢下一场比赛，再去谈什麽冠军。" 5. Center Ivica Zubac was an All-Defensive Team selection after anchoring last season’s third-ranked Clippers defense. Now, the Clippers have plummeted to a bottom-five defense despite the presence of Zubac. The Clippers don’t get back on defense, don’t defend 3s well, don’t force turnovers and don’t rebound. 6. Beal was already frustrated with the start of his season because of a minute restriction that kept him from playing 25 minutes and being held out of a back-to-back. When he started in Phoenix without Harden or Leonard, Beal missed 12 of 14 shots. The very next game — also against the Suns — Beal injured his right hip. 5. 中锋Ivica Zubac上季扛起快艇排名联盟第三的防守体系，并入选年度防守球队。但 如今，即便有Zubac坐镇，快艇的防守却一路崩跌到联盟倒数前五。 快艇现在防守端的问题包括： 回防速度慢 三分线外防守不佳 无法制造失误 抢不到篮板 (注:另外快艇是近20年来第一次有球队DRTG单季崩跌10以上) 6. Beal 对於自己赛季开局的状况早已感到沮丧，因为出场时间限制不让他打满 25 分钟 ，也不能打背靠背。当他在对太阳时上场、而Harden与Leonard都缺阵时，他14投只中2。 接着下一场——同样是对太阳——Beal又伤了右臀部。 7. Four days later, it was revealed that Beal’s new injury was a freak incident, a season-ending fracture that required surgery. The player that was essentially guaranteed a starting job upon his arrival — and one that was heavily recruited by Harden — will now have never played a fourth quarter for the Clippers this season. 8. Beal’s injury had a domino effect. The most obvious was the insertion of John Collins in the starting lineup. As much as fans clamored for Collins to immediately be a starter coming out of camp, head coach Tyronn Lue and his staff correctly identified the need for Collins to be put in lineups that would allow him to be comfortable offensively while not being as relied upon defensively. 7. 四天後，消息揭露Beal的新伤竟然是极其罕见的意外——一个需要手术、直接宣布本季 报销的骨折。这位加盟时几乎被保证先发的球员——而且还是Harden力邀加入的人——如 今整个赛季竟然一次第四节都没有为快艇上场过。 8. Beal的受伤引发骨牌效应，最明显的就是John Collins被提上先发。虽然球迷早就吵着 要Collins从训练营开始就直接先发，但Tyronn Lue与教练团非常清楚： Collins需要被放在能让他进攻端舒服发挥、而防守端不会被过度暴露的组合里。也就是说 ，让他直接先发原本并不是最好的方案，但 Beal 的缺席迫使快艇不得不这麽做。 9. Collins had to start once Beal’s injury was serious. In 11 games as a starter, Collins has only two assists while making only 8 of 32 3-pointers (25 percent). Additionally, a Clippers team that led the league in defensive rebounding percentage last season is down to 24th in that category this season, with Collins averaging a career-low 4.9 rebounds per game. 10. Brook Lopez was the Clippers’ biggest free-agent acquisition, as he was supposed to be a legitimate backup to Zubac while providing spacing offensively and rim protection defensively. To a degree, Lopez has done that. Among Clippers, only Harden, Nicolas Batum and Leonard have made more 3s than Lopez this season, while only Zubac and Derrick Jones Jr. blocked more shots. 9. 在Beal的伤势被证实严重後，Collins 必须顶上先发。但在11场先发比赛里，Collins 只送出2次助攻，三分球32投8中(25%)。 此外，快艇上季是全联盟防守篮板率第一的球队，但本季已掉到第24名，而 Collins的场 均篮板仅4.9个，是生涯新低。 10. Brook Lopez是快艇休赛季最重要的自由球员签约，本来预期他能成为Zubac的真正替 补，同时在进攻提供外线空间、防守端提供护框。 在某种程度上，他确实做到这些。 在快艇队内，本季只有Harden、Nicolas Batum、Leonard比他投进更多三分;而火锅方面， 也只有Zubac和Derrick Jones Jr.的火锅数比他多。 11. But Lopez’s lack of foot speed, combined with the offense’s complete lack of variety, exposed the 37-year-old as a one-dimensional player on both ends of the floor who contributed to the league’s worst fast-break situation. After the Clippers were outscored by 24 points in Lopez’ minutes against the Cleveland Cavaliers, Lue removed Lopez from the rotation in favor of Kobe Brown, a 2023 first-round pick who had his fourth-year option declined and is a career 27 percent 3-point shooter. 12. Chris Paul was the last of the four veterans brought in to upgrade the Clippers. But after the Clippers were outscored by 24 points in Paul’s minutes against the Oklahoma City Thunder on Nov. 4, Paul was phased out of the rotation, not playing at all in five consecutive games. 11. 但Lopez的脚步速度不足，加上快艇进攻完全缺乏多样性，使这位37岁的老将在攻防两 端都被暴露成单一功能的球员，并成为全联盟最糟快攻防守数据的一部分。在对克里夫兰 骑士的比赛中，快艇在Lopez上场的时间竟被打出-24的分差，於是Lue将他从轮替移除，改 用Kobe Brown——一位 2023 年首轮选秀、第四年球队选项已被拒绝、生涯三分命中率只 有27%的年轻球员。 12. Chris Paul是快艇为提升战力所引进的四名老将中最後一位。但在11月4日对奥克拉荷 马雷霆的比赛中，快艇在Paul上场期间也被打出-24的分差。之後Paul逐渐被移出轮替，连 续五场比赛完全没有出场。 13. Paul posted on social media the morning before the Charlotte game that he was on his last ride. The Clippers won that afternoon and headed to Ohio to finish the road trip. Paul was not made available to reporters. The Clippers then lost in downtown Los Angeles against the Lakers and then suffered back-to-back losses against the Memphis Grizzlies and the Mavericks. They don ’t play at home again until Dec. 15. 14. Jones played 40 minutes in the double-overtime win in Dallas. The next game in Boston, Jaylen Brown dove for a loose ball and hit an airborne Jones, injuring Jones’ right knee. It was revealed that Jones sprained his MCL, an injury that carries a six-week timetable. 13. 在对黄蜂的比赛前一个早上，Paul在社群媒体上发文，表示自己"已经是最後一趟旅程 了"。快艇当天下午赢球，接着前往俄亥俄结束客场之旅。Paul当天没有接受媒体访问。之 後快艇回到洛杉矶市中心对战湖人落败，接着又连续输给曼菲斯灰熊和独行侠。他们直到 12月15日才会再次在主场比赛。 14. Derrick Jones Jr.在快艇对独行侠的双延长胜利中打了40分钟。下一场作客波士顿时 ，Jaylen Brown在扑球时撞上正处於空中的Jones，导致Jones的右膝受伤。随後检查结果 显示，他是内侧副韧带(MCL)扭伤，预计至少需要六周恢复。 15. Jones earned a starting job because of his point-of-attack defense, his ability to weaponize his athleticism and his adequate 3-point shooting (34.8 percent on 3.5 attempts per game this season). But his energy as one of the few reliable players on the team under the age of 30 was perhaps his most indispensable trait, something even opponents like Orlando Magic point guard Jalen Suggs noticed was missing from the soulless Clippers moving forward. 16. Even with Jones, the Clippers have not been as good at the point of attack defensively as they were the season before. It’s something that has been pointed out by Lue, Zubac and other players. Kris Dunn was excellent in that role with the Clippers last season while providing ballhandling relief. But Beal was brought in specifically to keep Dunn in a reserve role, which would minimize the impact of Dunn’s occasional challenges of providing threatening offense. ChatGPT said: 15. Jones 之所以能拿下先发位置，是因为他的对球防守能力、能把自身运动能力最大化 的打法，以及还算合格的三分能力(本季场均 3.5 次出手，命中率 34.8%)。但更重要的是 ，他是球队少数 30 岁以下、且真正可靠的球员之一，他所带来的活力与能量是快艇最不 可或缺的特质。甚至连对手如奥兰多魔术的控卫Jalen Suggs都注意到，当快艇少了Jones ，那支球队往前走时显得毫无灵魂。 16. 即便Jones在阵中，快艇的对球防守依旧远不如上个赛季。这点Lue、Zubac与其他球员 都曾点出来。Kris Dunn上季在这个角色中表现出色，同时也能在控球上替球队分担压力。 但Beal当初会被引进，就是为了让Dunn能维持替补定位，避免他的进攻威胁不足在场上被 放大、拖累整体空间与节奏。 17. Now, Dunn is starting again because of Beal and Jones’ injuries. While Dunn still collects steals, he has been less reliable on and off the ball defensively while continuing to give opposing defenses a player to ignore while they make Harden’s offensive efforts as challenging as possible. The Clippers have been outscored by 100 points in Dunn’s minutes this season, the worst on the team. 18. Bogdan Bogdanovibegan the season as the odd man out of the Clippers’ rotation of 11 veterans. He was simply behind everyone else as he dealt with previously unrevealed knee and ankle injuries in the 2025 playoffs that required a month off, a multi-week hamstring ailment from EuroBasket in the summer and back woes in the preseason opener. Now, Bogdanoviis dealing with a hip contusion that has cost him five straight games. 17. 现在因为Beal和Jones都受伤，Dunn又被迫回到先发。虽然他依然能抄球，但在防守端 (无论有球或无球)稳定度都下降，同时他在进攻端依旧是对手可以完全无视的点，让对手 更能集中火力去削弱Harden的进攻空间。本季快艇在Dunn上场的时间里，净输了100分—— 是全队最差的数字。 18. Bogdan Bogdanovic在球季开始时，是快艇11名老将轮替中最不受重用的一位。原因是 他在2025季後赛时膝盖与脚踝有未公开的伤势，需要休养一个月；夏天在欧洲杯又出现数 周的腿後肌伤势，季前赛首战还碰上背部不适。如今，Bogdanovic又因为髋部挫伤缺席了 连续五场比赛。 19. The absence of Bogdanovicompounds the Beal injury, as the Clippers have a complete lack of dribble-pass-shoot options beyond Harden and Leonard. The available young players have unsurprisingly struggled to make an impact. Two-way contract rookie Kobe Sanders has been given the most opportunity, even starting games with Leonard out, due to his comfort shooting the ball and playing through contact. But the more Sanders has played, the more the NBA has taken advantage of him. Jordan Miller missed 12 of 15 games in November because of injury, while Cam Christie made only 31.6 percent of his 3s in November despite being billed as a shooter. 20. Due to injury, the five Clippers who played the most in November are Harden, Zubac, Collins, Dunn and Batum. Lue will always find a spot for Batum because he understands where to be and defends multiple positions. But Batum struggles to rebound, has made only two shots inside the 3-point line all season and had more turnovers than assists in November. 19. Bogdanovic的缺席让Beal的伤势问题更加严重，因为快艇在Harden和Leonard之外完全 缺乏具备运球、传球、投射三威胁能力的球员。现有的年轻球员也不意外地难以产生即战 力。 -双向合约新秀Kobe Sanders因为敢出手、敢对抗，在Leonard缺阵时甚至被排进先发，但 他打得越多，NBA 球队就越利用他的弱点。 -Jordan Miller因伤缺席了11月的15场比赛中的12场。 -Cam Christie虽然被视为射手，但11月的三分命中率只有31.6%。 20. 因伤病问题，快艇在11月出赛时间最多的前五人是Harden、Zubac、Collins、Dunn和 Batum。Lue之所以总会替Batum找到上场空间，是因为他懂得站位、能防守多个位置。但 Batum的缺点同样明显:抓不住篮板、本季禁区内只投进2球、11月的失误数甚至多於助攻。 It has been a particularly bad month for Lue, who has seen his team lose five games after holding leads of more than 10 points this month. Seven of the 15 games the Clippers have lost this season have been against teams they swept last season. Only three teams had a worse third-quarter point differential this month than the Clippers. The team allowed five players to score at least 35 points, culminating with this year’s No. 1 pick Cooper Flagg recording his first career 30-point game. The Clippers were embarrassed by a Denver Nuggets team that ended their season. They were embarrassed by a Thunder team that owns their 2026 first-round pick. They were embarrassed by a Lakers team that they share the city with. Lue suggested that “Next Man Up” is more difficult when a two-way contract is replacing Kawhi Leonard, but his team blew huge leads at home to teams starting Keaton Wallace in place of Trae Young and Vince Williams in place of Ja Morant. When the Clippers are down more than 15 points, they stay down; they are 0-10 when they trail by more than 15, a far cry from Clippers teams that used to hit comebacks. 这对Lue来说是一个异常惨烈的月份——快艇本月已有5场比赛是在领先10分以上後被逆转 落败。而本季15场失利中，有7场是输给上个赛季曾经横扫的对手。整个11月，联盟中只有 三支球队的第三节净分比快艇更差。快艇让五名球员砍下至少35分，最终甚至让今年状元 郎Cooper Flagg攻下生涯首度30分。 快艇被曾在季後赛终结他们赛季的丹佛金块羞辱；被握有他们2026首轮签的雷霆爆打；也 被与他们同城的湖人打得难堪。Lue说过:"当替补Kawhi Leonard的人是双向合约球员时， 想讲'下一个顶上(Next Man Up)'这句话其实没那麽容易。"但讽刺的是，快艇在主场却输 给了首发换成Keaton Wallace(代替Trae Young)、以及Vince Williams(代替Ja Morant)的 球队，甚至是在大幅领先後被翻盘。当快艇落後超过15分时，他们一蹶不振——本季在落 後15分以上的比赛中，他们是0胜10败，完全不像以往那些擅长逆转的快艇队。 Ballmer told The Athletic that he speaks with Lue and basketball president Lawrence Frank about how to turn things around. Ballmer also made it clear that the job to turn it around is on Lue and Frank. Only five teams have started 5-15 or worse and made the playoffs since the field expanded to 16 teams for the 1983-84 season. But one of those teams was a 4-16 Pelicans team that knocked the Clippers out of the Play-In Tournament in 2022. That precedent is about the only hope the Clippers have, and they are being led by a group of stars and a head coach who have never been down this bad. Ballmer告诉The Athletic，他已经与Lue以及篮球事务总裁Lawrence Frank讨论如何让球 队止跌回升。Ballmer也明确表示:扭转局势的责任在Lue和Frank身上。(心得:可以解读成 他们两个暂时不会滚蛋，也可以解读成要是不能扭转也准备走人。)自从季後赛队伍在 1983-84赛季扩编为16队以来，只有五支球队曾在开季5胜15败或更差的情况下仍闯进季後 赛。但其中一支，就是2022年那支4胜16败开季、最後在附加赛淘汰快艇的鹈鹕。 那段前例大概是快艇如今唯一能寄望的希望。而带领他们走出泥沼的，却是一群从未经历 过这麽低潮的明星球员与总教练。 心得: 然後再以一场三节大屠杀开启12月+客场之旅 --

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