作者falassion (夜路走多会碰到鬼)
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标题Re: [外絮] 拓荒者老板:不带双向是因我不够了解NBA
时间Mon May 18 16:48:19 2026
这老板看下来其实就是标准的商人思维
把冰球大的那套直接搬来NBA 结果发现没戏
连退房时间 发毛巾跟发T恤这种小事都要亲自下去管
画面想起来实在满搞笑的= =
但至少愿意承认自己不懂篮球圈的文化
也有试着去学习跟调整 虽然还是很小气啦
这点就赢过某些...自以为很会的GM(无恶意
等下赛季看他怎麽治理球队 就知道是抠门还是真不懂了
如果连教练团跟後勤的钱都要硬省
那阿拓球迷只能说 多保重了
不过有一说一 当GM好像很有趣馁
要是可以有个NBA经理人游戏就好了笑死
我肯定洒钱养球队 走一个豪门路线
※ 引述《zxc906383 (无无)》之铭言:
: 他真的当冰球队在经营欸
: https://reurl.cc/dpAxOV
: On the notion he’s cheap:
: 关於有人认为他很抠门这件事
: “My hockey team has been over the cap many times. They were the lowest in the l
: eague. They were at the floor when I bought them. You can go over the cap in hoc
: key. If you have a hurt player, you can replace them. So I’ve been over the cap
: multiple times because there was a rule that allowed you to go over the cap. An
: d at the same time, when I walk out of a room, I turn off the lights. And so tha
: t my friends make fun of me all the time. They’re telling me how bad I am at be
: ing rich.
: 「我的冰球队很多次都超过薪资上限,他们原本是联盟里花费最低的球队,我买下球队时,
: 他们甚至只在薪资下限附近,NHL允许你在球员受伤时超过薪资上限补人,所以我很多次都
: 超过上限,因为规则允许这麽做」
: 「但同时我离开房间时也会顺手关灯,所以朋友总是笑我,他们都说我根本不会当有钱人」
: “I just don’t want to waste money. I want to invest it. I’ll have many masseu
: ses. I’ll have the best food. We’re going to take care of the players, because
: it helps you win. It’s part of the deal. Some of the stuff about how we’re go
: ing to run the business; Portland spends 100 million more dollars a year on thei
: r business than the Hurricanes do, not including players
: 「我只是不想浪费钱我,想把钱拿去投资,球队会有很多按摩师,也会提供最好的食物,我
: 们会好好照顾球员,因为这有助於赢球,这本来就是球队运作的一部分」
: 「但有些关於球队经营方式的事情——拓荒者每年在球队营运上的支出,比卡罗莱纳飓风队
: 多出1亿美元,而且这还不包含球员薪资」
: “The Hurricanes, since I bought the team, have the first or second-best record
: in the league. So, I’m just not going to waste 100 million dollars, just becaus
: e somebody wants to write an article calling me cheap. I’m just not going to do
: it. And so, it’s hard because I don’t think about a budget when it comes to t
: he playing team and how to make sure we win. Some of the stuff that was blamed o
: n money is actually not 100% true.”
: 「自从我买下飓风队後,他们一直都是联盟战绩前一、二名的球队,所以我不会只是因为有
: 人想写篇文章骂我抠门,就白白浪费1亿美元,我不会这样做」
: 「而且老实说,在球队竞争力和如何赢球这件事上,我其实不太去想预算,有些被归咎於『
: 省钱』的事情,其实并不完全是真的」
: On the decision not to travel with two-way players in the playoffs:
: 关於季後赛不让双向合约球员随队客场的决定
: “I just made a mistake. I just don’t understand the league. In hockey, we don
: ’t travel extra people, because we’re not on vacation. We’re here to win, so
: we don’t want a distraction. The NBA seems to live with those distractions. It
: ’s not how I think about it. So, you’ve got to learn what’s the differences b
: etween the two leagues.”
: 「我只是犯了错,我其实还不够了解这个联盟」
: 「在冰球界,我们不会带额外的人随队,因为我们不是去度假,我们是去赢球的,所以不想
: 要有任何干扰」
: 「但NBA似乎能接受这些事情,这不是我的思维方式,所以你必须去学习这两个联盟之间的
: 差异」
: On making traveling party (except players and coaches) check-out early from the
: Phoenix hotel before the play-in game vs. the Suns:
: 关於在对太阳附加赛前,要求随队人员(球员与教练除外)提前从凤凰城饭店退房
: “The hotel story with the staff is an interesting story, I think, because, norm
: ally, when you travel, you get late checkout, right? In this case, in sports, it
: ’s usually like 5% and never comes up. Because it was last-minute — going to P
: hoenix, there was no hotels — I guess Phoenix in March is a pretty popular plac
: e. So, I had trouble getting hotels. And the hotel really wanted us to be out ea
: rly because they needed the rooms. And so, they wanted us to pay for a second ni
: ght. And so, we did that for the coaches and the players. But we got (them) to l
: et us leave at 1 o’clock. And I had a room at the hotel. I was there. So, I’m
: like, lunch starts at 1:45. We have a huge ballroom with this really nice lunch
: for everybody. So, I said, ‘Look, we’ll do the players and the coaches. We’ll
: stay. We’ll pay the extra night. For the staff, we’ve got this big ballroom w
: ith food. We’ll go down there and work.’ And everyone was down there. I was do
: wn there. I actually learned a lot during that hour, because I got to talk to so
: me of the training staff, etc.
: 「我觉得饭店那件事其实很有意思,通常出差旅行时,你都会要求延後退房,对吧?在体育
: 界这种情况其实只占大概5%,几乎不太会发生」
: 「但因为那次是临时去凤凰城,而当时根本没什麽饭店空房——我猜凤凰城三月是很热门的
: 地方——所以我订房遇到很多困难」
: 「饭店真的很希望我们早点退房,因为他们需要房间,所以他们要求我们多付一晚住宿费,
: 於是我们替教练和球员支付了那笔费用」
: 「但我们协调到可以延到下午1点离开,我自己当时也住在那家饭店,午餐是1点45开始,我
: 们有一个很大的宴会厅,也准备了很棒的午餐给大家」
: 所以我就说:『球员和教练可以留在房间,我们付多一晚,但工作人员就到楼下宴会厅,有
: 食物也可以在那里工作。』
: 「结果大家都在那里,我自己也在,我其实在那一小时里学到很多,因为我有机会和一些训
: 练团队的人聊天等等」
: On the decision to give fans free towels instead of free T-shirts during home pl
: ayoff games:
: 关於季後赛主场发送免费毛巾而不是免费T恤的决定
: “I wasn’t trying to save money. I just kind of thought t-shirts were kind of s
: illy. They called me and said … ‘Do you want to do t-shirts?’ I’m like, ‘No
: , let’s do towels.’ It was that long of a conversation. Because in Carolina, w
: e do towels and it’s awesome. Like (fans at) the arenas, they’re all waving th
: em. Well, I got to the Portland game, no one waved any towels. So we tried to ge
: t t-shirts for the next game. I didn’t know t-shirts were such a thing, because
: I hadn’t thought about the fact that in hockey, we’ve got jerseys, everybody
: wants to wear their jersey. And so they don’t want t-shirts because they’ve go
: t their jerseys. But in basketball, (that’s) not the case. They want to wear th
: e t-shirt.
: 「我不是想省钱,我只是觉得T恤有点蠢」
: 他们打电话问我:『你想发T恤吗?』我就回:『不要,发毛巾吧』整段对话差不多就这麽
: 短
: 「因为在卡罗莱纳,我们都是发毛巾,而且效果超棒,球场里每个人都在挥毛巾」
: 「但我到了波特兰的比赛後,发现根本没人在挥毛巾,所以我们下一场就赶快改发T恤」
: 「我之前根本不知道T恤文化这麽重要,因为我没想到冰球和篮球的差别,冰球迷通常都有
: 球衣,大家都想穿自己的球衣,所以不太需要T恤」
: 「但在篮球不是这样,球迷真的会想穿那些T」
: https://x.com/MikeVorkunov/status/2055790972043145592
: Tom Dundon on not sending 2-way players on the road to the playoffs, on the Game
: Over podcast:
: "I'm just not gonna waste $100 million just because someone wants to write an ar
: ticle calling me cheap. I'm not going to do it. It's hard because I don't think
: of a budget when it comes to the playing team and how to make sure we win. Some
: of the stuff that was blamed on money is actually not 100 percent true. That I t
: hought about the money. Like on traveling players, I just made a mistake. I just
: don't understand the league. In hockey we don't travel extra people because we'
: re not on vacation, we're here to win. I don't want the distraction. The NBA see
: ms to live with those distractions. It's not how I think about it. So you gotta
: sort of have to learn."
: https://i.imgur.com/eiass17.jpeg
: 拓荒者老板Tom Dundon针对季後赛期间不让双向合约球员随队出征客场一事表示:
: 「我就是不会只因为有人想写篇文章骂我小气,就去浪费一亿美元,我绝对不干这种事,这
: 很难,因为当涉及到上场比赛的队伍以及如何确保我们赢球时,我其实根本不会去考虑预算
: ,某些被归咎於钱的原因,实际上并非百分之百是事实——也就是说并非因为我计较那些钱
: 」
: 「例如在球员随队出征这件事上,我只是犯了个错误,单纯是因为我不够了解这个联盟,在
: 冰球界我们不会让多余的人随队旅行,因为我们不是去度假的,我们是去赢球的,我不想带
: 来分心的因素,但NBA似乎很习惯与这些分心事物共存,这不是我的思维方式,所以你多少
: 还是得去适应和学习」
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15F:推 derrickx : 不是,管一支球队不用商人思维是要用共产党思维吗XD 05/18 17:13
16F:推 cado0824 : 我比较想知道管理一只球队不然要用甚麽思维 05/18 17:42
17F:推 f77928 : 比较想知道NHL其他老板也小气巴拉抠到不行这样? 05/18 17:44
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22F:→ RX11 : 他也没小气吧 只是还不够懂NBA 你看他原本被诟病的 05/18 18:17
23F:→ RX11 : 那些都是冰球逻辑而言 05/18 18:17
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25F:推 brightest : 争冠还是卖票的差别吧 05/18 18:20
26F:推 Hettt5655 : 2k GM模式如果做太烂还会被老板开除 05/18 18:21
27F:推 f77928 : 他经营冰球时就已经是成本控制狂魔了吧 NHL其他队 05/18 18:24
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