作者las1226 (las)
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标题[问题] 方法请求项中步骤的产物
时间Wed Dec 18 15:51:31 2013
从公告案中观察到方法请求项有些会写步骤的产物,有些不会写
对於步骤的产物是否明确的判断小弟相当疑惑
举例来说,US8580880的请求项1:
A method for stabilizing liquid mercury, comprising the steps of:
A) reacting in stoichiometric conditions liquid mercury and a first elemental
sulfur through a milling process to obtain a first product;
B) adding said first product to aggregates, a second elemental sulfur and a
sulfur polymer to obtain a second product, said first and second elemental
sulfur is a sulfur powder with a particle size less than 60 μm, and said
adding is carried out at a temperature between 130° C. and 165° C.
其中first product与second product未提到各自组成为何?解释上有点不明确
但如果从其他观点来看,firsr product与second product是步骤A与B的结果,
好像又可以如此解释
另举例来说,US8530715的请求项1
A method of producing a hydrocarbon product, the method comprising:
hydrotreating a feedstock comprising at least one of a renewable
triacylglyceride (TAG), renewable fatty acid, renewable fatty acid C1-C5
alkyl ester (C1-C5 FAE), and a mixture thereof, in the presence of a
nonsulfided hydrotreating catalyst, to produce a first product comprising
hydrocarbons and optionally to produce unconverted starting material
comprising the at least one of the renewable triacylglyceride (TAG), the
renewable fatty acid, the renewable fatty acid C1-C5 alkyl ester (C1-C5 FAE),
and the mixture thereof, wherein in the first product, a concentration of at
least one of hydrocarbons with an odd-number of carbon atoms, cyclic
hydrocarbons, and hydrocarbons with an even-number of carbon atoms, is
dependent on a temperature used during the hydrotreating; and
controlling the temperature of the hydrotreating to be a first temperature
such that a weight ratio of the hydrocarbons having an even-number of carbon
atoms to the hydrocarbons having an odd-number of carbon atoms is greater
than 1:1, and then further comprising increasing the first temperature by an
amount of about 8° C. to about 55° C., such that the weight ratio of the
hydrocarbons having an even-number of carbon atoms to the hydrocarbons having
an odd-number of carbon atoms decreases to less than 1:1; wherein the
renewable TAG, renewable fatty acid, and renewable C1-C5 FAE comprise fatty
acid units that have an even number of carbon atoms.
其中first product有提到其组成,解释上其为何很明确.
想问的是这二件公告案采用不同手法描述步骤的产物
前者很简洁但有点不明确,後者很冗长但很清楚
想问各位版大的看法与建议
还是有相关资料有探讨此部分
感谢!
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1F:推 piglauhk:若要分析其claim construction 建议看申请时的板本比较准 12/18 15:59
2F:推 piglauhk:若非得要用公告板本看 那请配合file wrapper之内容观之 12/18 16:01
3F:推 piglauhk:另外 问题太广 无法明确回应 建议限缩 12/18 16:05
4F:→ las1226:换个方式问好了,如果一步骤为混合A与B得到一混合物 12/18 16:29
5F:→ las1226:这步骤为明确吗?还是我还要定义该混合物包含A与B 12/18 16:30
6F:→ las1226:未定义可说是混合的结果,定义很清楚但又很冗长 12/18 16:32
7F:→ las1226:因不同公告本让我不知道到底哪种方式为妥?想问大家意见 12/18 16:34
8F:推 piglauhk:将Sulfur 用某制程制第一物 第一物为product by process 12/18 16:59
9F:→ piglauhk:X不会不明确? 12/18 17:00
10F:→ las1226:P大,所以将水电解成一产物和将水电解成氢气与氧气 12/18 17:28
11F:→ las1226:均为明确,不需要定义产物为何? 12/18 17:29
12F:推 piglauhk:私以为是明确无误 12/18 19:33
13F:→ cloud7515:呃…水电解还能成为什麽其他的东西吗? 12/18 19:37