※ 引述《ablackturtle (.............)》之铭言： : 我觉得还是要看实验室. : 像我呆的实验室, 反而是以专题生为主 : 实验室传统就是专题生都做很好,做很多东西 : 而且我们一开始进来都会先讲清楚 : == 这里很操, 非常操..没必要不要进来 : AM9:00 ~ PM10:00 Mon to Sat : 有课就上课.没课就得来, 要把课表贴在实验室, 没得逃 : 平常不太能读书, 考前一个礼拜才能放假 : 所以很有可能课业会退步, 对推甄不利 : 讲这麽多还肯进来做专题的都会有一定的觉悟 : 而老板的态度其实还是最重要的 : 他对专题生跟研究生一视同仁 : 一样的空间, 一样的器材 (题目一样难 >.< ) : 相对的就必须要与硕士生有相同的付出与努力 : 所以我老板这几年发的paper, : 专题生反而比研究所发的还要多 : 最好的是专题生毕业有留下来续读的话 : 老板等於赚到一个有两年经验的硕班 I cannot see the points for the nndergraduate students. As it takes so long time from their life without any payment, are they trained to do lots of works or more thinking? If lots of thinking, that sounds contrdiction, because to think required reading and survay, and this doesn't have to happen in, and usually not happen in, the laboratory. If just lots of experimental work, then they might just be generating data for somebody's publication. What have they learnt then? I would suggest the undergraduates, go to somewhere, think about the questions. If you do like to do research, go to find a quiet environment, do some study to get in a Master/PhD course. You spend efforts as many as a master student, nevertheless, only can have a bachelor degree; and even no 'free money'. Com'on... What's the point? --

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