※ 引述《SmileFace (樱花谢了郁金香开了)》之铭言： : 我老板是美国人 : 刚进实验室时，他也是说直接叫他first name : 甚至还把William简称做Will : 不过，当你叫他Professor XXX时 : 他也不会指正你，虽然还是在讲事情 : 不过会发现多了一些教学热诚 : 而且不止我老板 : 在我工做的地方，发现当老师还是没没无名的小头时 : 你爱怎麽叫都可以 : 但一旦他当到Professor或XX director时 : 对於名号头衔的称呼突然就便得很care了 : 也许是我的sample size不大 : 所以我也有bias :P Hi, I am not saying you are wrong. Just try to clarify something. I did not do my degree in the US. I did not recognise they were always the best in the world. Conversely, I do recognise they are quite poor at some aspects. Anyway... personally... In the beginning, I was doing the same as you --- calling them Dr.xxx, Prof.XXX, etc. Initially, they did not correct me. A few weeks later, I received an email concerning this from my supervisor. He stressed this, because this is quite important and that was his job to tell me that. Since then, I have never called any member in our group by title, unless I was introducing them to somebody out of the group or taught course students. There were some exceptions. To the member out of the group, we will call them title and last name, in the very first time we see each other ---- like you got to say 'How do you do?' rather than 'How are you?'. Once konwing more of each other, we don't do it any more. Else, they will think they never known you. Another well-known exception is to PhD oral examination examiners. In the examination, the difference between the candidate and examiners is very clear --- somebody is going to be a doctor, probably next week or next few months. This means the candidate is NOT a doctor. So, in that situation, the candidate would call all the examiners their titles and last names, even some examiners are actually internal examiners. Similarly, when you pass the examiner, they will say: Congratuation, Dr xxx and then shake your hand. After that, everybody is called by their first names. Back to the point, in EU, we are not doing that like you said in the US. This is not just I am saying. This has been written down and stressed in almost all of the PhD methodology books there. To call supervisor their first name is not only a culture; it is also very meaningful in the training. Most of the inlands students do that from the first day joining the group. Some of the overseas students do that few weeks from their first time meeting the supervisor. However, if you are still doing this after a year, then...... I won't say you are wrong, but quite weird. --

※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 81.111.56.53 ※ 编辑: lerudit 来自: 81.111.56.53 (05/13 21:21) ※ 编辑: lerudit 来自: 81.111.56.53 (05/13 21:34) ※ 编辑: lerudit 来自: 81.111.56.53 (05/13 21:34) Yes, there is no rule saying students cannot call their supervisors titles and last names. However, this is unusual there. As I mentioned, there are some very formal situation that that could be required. However, regular discussion or chat is not the case. Like.. A: Sir, how is going? Sir. B: Very well, Dr No. Have you got a nice weekend? Doctor. A: Oh, yes, very good. Thank you, Sir. We went out on Saturday. I quite delighted in walking in the sunshine, Sir. And I found a fish'n'chips shop, Sir. You won't believe, Sir. There was a servant from Chinese. B: Doctor, are you sure? Doctor. Never seen this before. Doctor, have you ever done some survey about how many percentage of fish'n'chips shops in this country have foreign servants? A: Sir, Excuse me, Sir. We don't talk about science in pub. XD... Sir. XD. B: XD. ... Oh, com'on. What are they doing? ... ※ 编辑: lerudit 来自: 81.111.56.53 (05/14 00:50) ※ 编辑: lerudit 来自: 81.111.56.53 (05/14 00:54)