※ 引述《oplz (Go Heat! Win for Riley!)》之铭言： : sigh..被点出来问 只好回答一下. : 不管在哪应该都一样, 每个 lab 的文化都不同, : 原因可能是反应出 PI 个性的差异, 也有可能是客观环境 经费多少使然 : 强制地规定所有 lab 都要分的清清楚楚 学生连碰都不能碰, : 或硬要说这样子是比较优秀的方式, 说实话 实在很蠢 : 我老板超有钱 不希望时间多被担误 钱不是问题 时间比较宝贵, : 所以允许大家直接采购 节省时间 你能说这样不对吗? I quite like the word, effeciency, or saving time, because it covers so many pretty dirty things happening in the laboratories, relating the publich money coming from a hand to another, or even related to some fake results or whatever, isn't. Why can your boss 'has' more money? I won't give any comment if the money is from his salary or industries. Somebody got to worry about how the money gone in these situations, not me. However, if the money is from the government, and somebody spends it too quick, just because somebody wants to save some time or don't want to bother to check every details of the purchasing processes. I won't say this is correct. I am not saying your boss is spending money incorrectly, however, I cannot assure there is nobody doing such dirty jobs and I don't think you can. Why not get everything governed clearly? by regulation. Something you might think it is clever, and it can be, and also can be very stupid. How about... You can ask a big bargin and they give your very bad quality stuffs? Is this helpful? for your paper or thesis? It can also be you pay much more money for a not-so-expensive stuff. Are you really happy with this? (If I am a taxpayer, I won't be happy.) : 实验室所有成员也算是个整体, 大家分工实验室里的事也是常有的事, : 有人管帐 有人管仪器 等等, 今天若你被分到管 isotope : 你可以跟他说 "嘿! lerudit 在版上说学生不该做这些事的耶" 就撤手不管吗? Haha.. You can suggest, although I don't think it would work. I personally don't like student starts a statement by XXX saying YYY, even that is definitely correct. Everything has a reason, and you got to think and say why.... A correct statement usually is not because who said it's correct. Right, back to the topic. It is true that every student has their duties in a laboratory. Have you ever thought what sort of duties are suitable for students? Certainly, I recognise public funding is not and you think it is ---- this is the disagreement. Make it clear, OK? : 每个实验室有每个实验室自己的 run 法... 硬说你说的制度比较棒 实在没道理. : 另外欧洲系统有他们自己的问题与缺点, 不一定就比台湾的情况好. Anyway, I just told you what I saw, not in Taiwan. If you don't think so, c'est bien. Good luck. --

※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 81.111.56.53 ※ 编辑: lerudit 来自: 81.111.56.53 (05/22 00:23) I wonder how you can get this... I never done such non-sense guessing... Any, that is not that important. I like to do research happily even more than to generate top results. ※ 编辑: lerudit 来自: 81.111.53.169 (05/23 01:28) ※ 编辑: lerudit 来自: 81.111.53.169 (05/23 01:33) ※ 编辑: lerudit 来自: 81.111.53.169 (05/23 21:58)