作者tshih ()
看板Raptors
标题Fw: [情报] 骑士队偷偷练了一整季的闪电夹击
时间Thu May 4 16:24:50 2017
※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1P2jjem0 ]
作者: kyle5241 (Kyle Korver) 看板: NBA
标题: [情报] 骑士队偷偷练了一整季的闪电夹击
时间: Thu May 4 15:42:28 2017
http://tinyurl.com/mhsvrq8
Cleveland Cavaliers have been privately working on 'blitzing' defensive
scheme all season
骑士已经花了一整季偷偷练"闪电战"防守(估且称为闪电夹击)
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Cleveland Cavaliers have had the plan in place for
quite some time, a strategy sitting in their back pocket.
骑士早就有一个招藏在口袋很久了
Following the limited practices they had throughout the season and some of
their shootarounds, head coach Tyronn Lue dedicated the final 15 minutes or
so every time to sharpening it. It's been in the defensive playbook for the
last three years, a comfortable plan for them. And given their personnel, the
Cavs believe it's one of the best schemes.
在他们整季相当有限的练习时间里,鲁教练总是花最後15分钟来练习强化它。它在
过去三年一直在他们的防守战略中。
That aggressive trapping strategy has frustrated DeMar DeRozan and led to
back-to-back blowouts in the Eastern Conference semifinals.
这个侵略性的包夹击溃了DDR,而让他们连胜两场
"We know DeMar's a great player, and our strategy since I've been here the
last three years is just take away what a team does the best," Lue said. "We
know he's a great scorer so we want to pay great attention to him."
"我们知道DDR是个好球员,在过去三年我们做的只是把对方球队做最好的部分给拿掉"
鲁说:"我们知道他是个好的得分手,所以我们放了很大的心力在他身上"
J.R. Smith has earned plenty of praise for his individual defense, staying
locked in throughout the game, not biting on DeRozan's pump fake, cutting off
his angles to the basket, keeping him out of the paint and staying attached
to his body when he uses screens away from the ball. When Smith checks out,
Iman Shumpert takes over. But it's the Cavaliers' blitz that has led to most
of the success.
JR在个人防守上赢得了很多的赞美,他总是锁在DDR旁边,不去理DDR的假动作,总是对
他的投篮角度做干扰,让他远离禁区,在他利用单挡时总是跟在他身边。在史密斯下场
後,香坡接替了他的工作。但是骑士的闪电夹击让这个策略很成功。
In Game 1, the Cavs trapped DeRozan 24 times. He scored three times when
faced with it. Oftentimes he tried to pass out of the double team, make the
right basketball play. Other moments he appeared flustered, committing four
turnovers or jacking ill-advised jumpers. On Monday night, DeRozan finished
with 19 points on 7-of-16 from the field. He went to the free-throw line just
five times.
在第一场,骑士包了DDR 24次,他只成功得分3次。大部分时间他把球给传了出去,打
正确的篮球。其它时候他却很慌张,失误了4次,或是投了很烂的球。星期一,DDR得
到了19分,16投7中,只上了罚球线5次。
"Just trying to keep him uncomfortable at all times," Shumpert said. "J.R.'s
been doing a tremendous job of even when he does get to his spots he's got a
contest there, nobody's going for shot fakes. His work is cut out for him
this series."
"基本上就是让他一直不舒服"香坡说:"JR完成了大量的工作,就算DDR找到了他的位置,
JR仍然给他干扰,没有人去理他的假动作。他的功能在这个系列完全被拿掉了"
The Cavs increased the pressure even more Wednesday. DeRozan touched the ball
35 times, seeing a second defender on 31 of them. He passed out of the double
22 times and shot 0-of-9 from the field. It all led to a forgettable night,
scoring a season-low five points on 2-of-11 from the field. He didn't make
his first basket until early in the fourth quarter.
在星期三,骑士施加了更多的压力。DDR碰到了球35次,遇到31次包夹,他传出了22次球
,但是在包夹下9投0中。最後他只有得到5分,11投2中。他直到第四节才有第一颗命中。
"I'm just trying to go out there and make the right pass out of the double
team, trust my teammates," DeRozan said. "We missed a lot of shots. I
couldn't find a rhythm with all the doubling. It will be something I go back
and look at and understand and figure out ways of attacking them."
"我只是试着把球传出去,相信我的队友"DDR说:"我们错失了很多投篮,我在包夹下
没有办法找到节奏。我必须要想办法找出攻击他们的方式"
This strategy isn't new. Many teams around the NBA use it. The Raptors saw it
during the first round against the Milwaukee Bucks before eventually finding
the answers. It's got a few different names too. "Trapping" or "blitzing" or
"corralling" was at the core of James' Miami Heat teams, flying around the
court and overwhelming opponents with speed and athleticism. It led to Miami
having one of the best defensive teams until it started to wear down.
这个策略并不稀奇,公鹿在第一轮就对暴龙使出这招。这招有很多名称:"设下陷阱"、
"闪电战"、"关围栏",这基本上是姆斯在热火时的防守核心。在场上飞奔,用速度和
运动力压迫对手,这使的热火变成防守最好的队伍直到他们老化。
Blitzing takes discipline, communication and plenty of energy, which is why
the Cavs didn't use it much throughout the regular season. But after their
defense kept getting shredded in pick-and-roll situations and openly mocked
heading into the playoffs, it was time for something different.
闪电夹击要有很多的纪律、沟通和能量。所以骑士在例行赛并不使用它。但在他们的
防守被挡切给撕裂,并被一堆人嘲笑後,他们觉得是时候做一点不同的事了。
"We have to navigate the regular season," James Jones told cleveland.com. "It
depends on who you are playing and what you're trying to accomplish. But it's
just preference. It's nothing spectacular. It's five guys finding a way to
fly around and cause havoc and push the tempo. For us it works because it
forces quicker shots and allows us to get out in transition where we're at
our best."
"我们必须要撑过例行赛"大仁哥说:"它完全是看你跟谁打,以及你想要完成什麽。但这
只是个人喜好,它没什麽特别的。基本上就是五个人在场上飞来飞去,增加节奏。这对
我们有用,因为它迫使对手更快出手,让我们打出我们最善长的转换进攻。"
Jones' point is a good one. Personnel is at the center of the Cavs' trapping
success.
骑士的人员配置是他们夹击可以成功的关键
Kevin Love is not the most accomplished defender, but he can move his feet
from time to time, something he showed in Game 7 of the NBA Finals. Tristan
Thompson's athleticism, long arms and quick feet allow him to pester the ball
handler and still recover in time. He's as comfortable guarding on the
perimeter as in the paint. With Smith as the primary defender against
DeRozan, James can play the roamer role that was so successful during Round
One against Indiana.
爱防守普普,但是他可以一直移动。TT的运动力和长臂使他可以干扰带球者并且即时
归位,他防守外围和禁区一样舒适。当史密斯主防DDR时,詹姆斯可以当游击手
DeRozan isn't the only one dealing with extra attention. The Cavs have tried
the same with All-Star point guard Kyle Lowry, which has mitigated Kyrie
Irving's struggles on that end.
骑士在用同样的策略在Lowry上,这缓解了厄文的挣扎
But Lowry, a nifty passer, has handled it much better than DeRozan. On
Wednesday, Lowry dropped repeated dimes to Jonas Valanciunas. The 7-footer
finished with 23 points on 10-of-13 from the field.
但是Lowry是个很棒的传球者,他传了好几球给大V,让大V拿到了23分,13投10中。
That's the danger. Two guys on the ball will lead to someone else being open.
Ball movement can cause chaos and confusion. It can lead to open shots. Serge
Ibaka had seven uncontested shots in Game 2, only making three. Valanciunas
had five. DeMarre Carroll got four, unable to connect on any of them,
finishing 0-of-6 on the night. The Raptors as a team hoisted 40 uncontested
looks in their 90 attempts.
这个战术危险的地方,在於包夹会导致某人空档。球的转移会导致混乱,此时就会有空档
出现。伊巴卡投了7个空档,中了3个。大V中了5个,Carroll有四个空档,却没中半个。
暴龙在90次出手中,有40次是空档。
"At times, you're going to give up some plays," Lue said. "Valanciunas got it
going a little bit in the first half, and that's the result of us blitzing
DeRozan, blitzing Kyle and they got some shots. When you're going to take
away some players or take away some things, you're going to give up
something."
"有时候,你得要放弃一些回合"鲁说:"大V上半场得到了一些,这是因为我们闪电夹击
DDR和Kyle的原故。当你想要拿走一些东西,你就必须要放弃一些东西"
DeRozan is the top name on the scouting report, the engine that makes the
Raptors go. The Cavs don't believe Toronto has enough playmakers or
accomplished 3-point shooters for the anecdote.
DDR是情搜名单中第一个目标,他是暴龙运行的引擎。骑士不相信暴龙有足够的控球或
是三分射手。
"I think the fact that when you put two on the ball you're vulnerable because
now it's 4-on-3 on the backside, now you have no choice but to fly around,"
James said. "You have no choice but to activate yourself because you're at a
disadvantage when you put two on the ball. It's just a numbers game. I think
it works well for us at this point and time right now because it just
activates us and gets us moving, gets us talking and communicating. Stick
with it and if we put the pressure on for a consistent time over a 48-minute
game, then we feel like it works in our favor."
"当你放两个球员在球上,剩下的就会变成4打3,你没有选择,只有奔跑"姆斯说:"
你必须要启动自己,因为当你放了两个球员在球上,你会处於劣势。我认为这个策略
对我们有效,因为这迫使我们移动和沟通。如果我们可以做到48分钟,球赛就会偏向
我们这边"
The Cavs have had extra practice sessions in the postseason and are taking
advantage. Lue and his coaches have been waiting to lock into one opponent,
show their chops, identify tendencies and try to exploit weakness. They did
it against the Pacers, using the same strategy against Paul George late in
the series.
季後赛骑士有额外的练习。鲁早就等待时机对他们的敌人露出他们的爪牙,了解他们
敌人的习性,并且攻击他们的弱点,他们把这招用在溜马上,使的Paul George第三
第四场命中率惨跌
This time, the Cavs understand the Raptors want to run isolations for Lowry
and DeRozan. That's where DeRozan has been at his best, which is one reason
they've shelved switching and opted for blitzing.
这次,骑士知道暴龙想要让DDR以及Lowry单打,这是DDR最善长的,所以他们不用轮转
而改用闪电夹击
"We're aggressive. One thing you can't do is be passive when you're trapping
and blitzing," Jones added. "In every sport usually the most aggressive team
defensively has the most success. For us it's about not allowing good players
to get a rhythm and feel comfortable. When you rely on strictly talent for
talent you get yourself in trouble. For us, we're trying to make it about
effort, energy and talent. You put all three of those things together we play
at our best."
"我们必须要保持侵略,但你要不断包夹以及闪电移动时"大仁哥说:"在各个运动,通常
防守最侵略的队伍最成功。对我们来说就不让他们的好球员得到节奏。如果你只靠天赋
打球,你会陷入麻烦。对我们来说,我们试着付出努力、能量和天份,但你把这三个
东西放在一起,我们可以打出最棒的篮球"
The Cavs were working on it behind the scenes, waiting for the right time to
deploy the tactic. The right matchup. In one of the biggest regular season
games against Boston, Isaiah Thomas and the Celtics looked helpless searching
for an answer. The Raptors -- and DeRozan -- have that same defeated gaze.
骑士一直藏着这招,直到适当的时机去使用它。在骑士最後一场对赛队的例行赛,
矮汤和赛尔迪克队看起来不知所措,而暴龙和DDR也露出了同样的表情
"You can't always think about the percentages," Lue said. "You've got to
think about what you're trying to take away defensively and make the team do
something different they haven't done all season. That's our main focus."
"不要去想命中率"鲁说:"你要去想防守上你要拿走对方什麽东西,使他们做出不同的
事,这是我们的目标"
心得:
想当初鲁说他在藏招还一堆人笑
结果就真的藏招不用而已
例行赛唯一用的一场塞队惨败
很难想像东冠塞队要怎麽跟骑士打…
不过这招似乎对骑士就没用了
因为根本没有人可以一对一守住姆斯…
--
※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc), 来自: 131.215.107.226
※ 文章网址: https://webptt.com/cn.aspx?n=bbs/NBA/M.1493883752.A.C00.html
1F:推 ericf129 : 上吧!使出闪电夹击! 05/04 15:43
2F:推 flylos : 名字听起来很厉害的感觉 05/04 15:43
3F:→ ykes60513 : 藏招藏了一整季 05/04 15:43
4F:推 jay0601zzz : 皮卡丘: 05/04 15:44
5F:推 VVinSaber : 这招感觉对勇士没啥用 对方星度强其他队太多了QQ 05/04 15:44
6F:推 Fadeway : 就说了 Lue一副老神在在的样子肯定有藏 05/04 15:44
7F:推 cress0128 : MJ表示无压力 05/04 15:45
8F:推 LeeMatt : 太早用了 05/04 15:45
9F:推 IAMGRICE : 好中二的战术名XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 05/04 15:45
10F:推 qpeter : 果然有藏招 05/04 15:45
11F:推 leophior : 大仁哥XD 05/04 15:45
12F:推 gn01948540 : 骑士整个季赛都在养生,联盟不罚吗?XD 05/04 15:46
13F:推 beyondx : ddr的问题比较大吧 公鹿不用什麽闪电战也能把ddr守 05/04 15:46
14F:→ beyondx : 到八投零中... 05/04 15:46
15F:推 key000130 : 这招无法对勇士用吧..除非有人跟小鸡一样 05/04 15:47
16F:推 Liaocavalier: 这名字帅炸了! 05/04 15:47
17F:→ gn01948540 : 不过可爱单防姆斯不是还不错 05/04 15:47
18F:→ Fadeway : 这也不是养生阿 这只是其中的防守策略 05/04 15:47
19F:推 JayFans0610 : 其实Lue後面早就说没有藏招了...... 05/04 15:47
20F:→ cowbayla : 这战术取个中二名称就说得好像是你骑发明的... 05/04 15:48
21F:推 power11811 : 怎麽大仁哥说得好像自己是主力一样...... 05/04 15:48
22F:推 howardq44 : 鲁教练XDD 05/04 15:48
23F:推 vance6313 : 老大:闪电鲍夹 05/04 15:48
24F:→ ykes60513 : Lue口袋里一定还藏一招专门对勇士的 05/04 15:48
25F:推 rone0416 : 洪荒包夹、圣光三分、冰雪买饭、暗黑走步 05/04 15:48
26F:推 sam40026 : 终於有看起来比较像样的文章了,给推 05/04 15:48
27F:推 jessica805 : 最好拿来对勇士 包咖哩看看啊 05/04 15:49
28F:推 heyamo123 : 重点是对勇士好像就完全没用了... 05/04 15:49
29F:→ sam40026 : 不过应该改成星爆气流夹击,赞喔 05/04 15:49
30F:→ Fadeway : 不过觉得太早用 感觉不用出招暴龙也赢不了 05/04 15:49
31F:推 nashill13 : 可是包了curry,还有KD和kt耶…… 05/04 15:49
32F:推 JayFans0610 : 是没错,因为这必须得被包夹者是也不太好的情况 05/04 15:49
33F:→ jessica805 : 对勇士就剩the跨 05/04 15:49
34F:推 swingingbear: 从热火轮转 甚至近两年 这套高速防守一直是喇叭所在 05/04 15:50
35F:→ swingingbear: 球队爱用的 毕竟体能就摆在那里 与其说偷练不如说是 05/04 15:50
36F:→ swingingbear: 例赛想省力 05/04 15:50
37F:推 dahlia7357 : 好屌 DDR被守到数据跟退休老人一样 05/04 15:50
38F:→ JayFans0610 : 以及队内没有足够射手,但勇士无论Durant还是Curry 05/04 15:50
39F:→ JayFans0610 : 都有传球能力 05/04 15:50
40F:推 demonh311 : 就说藏招了,总冠军稳了 05/04 15:50
41F:→ JayFans0610 : 三分射手也非常多 05/04 15:50
42F:嘘 teddyhtf : 对勇士只会闪电往生 05/04 15:50
43F:→ sam40026 : 不过对勇士没用,这招包夹只对擅长切入和单打有效 05/04 15:50
44F:嘘 smtp : 东区很适合造神 05/04 15:51
45F:→ dahlia7357 : 柯铝有无解三分 KD更难守 因为你不知道该守哪一队 05/04 15:51
46F:推 HaHaPoint : 我这回合使出 "闪电夹击" ,盖牌结束这回合 05/04 15:51
47F:→ sam40026 : 勇士三分射手不吃这套,可能还是要换招 05/04 15:51
48F:推 SunYatsen : 勇士有双引擎,要对Green还是Curry用?还有只KD 05/04 15:51
49F:推 lngygy123 : 对勇士应该不会用这个吧 05/04 15:51
50F:→ teddyhtf : 啄赢菜鸡一堆吹棒 05/04 15:51
51F:→ cowbayla : 哈登的挡拆勾手跳投=破解 ! 05/04 15:52
52F:推 sin17 : 电烧夹击比较威 05/04 15:52
53F:推 xxplayss : PG也是被这招弄的嫑嫑的 05/04 15:52
54F:→ dahlia7357 : 你准备包夹KD 可是发现KD换上你家球衣根本守不住 05/04 15:52
55F:推 jtch : 这招明明就叫闪电布丁 05/04 15:52
56F:推 jason79718 : 是这招有用还是DDR太铁 05/04 15:52
57F:推 swingingbear: 若用这做关键防守策略 对勇士最佳解会是让嘴绿投掉 05/04 15:53
58F:→ swingingbear: 包curry 盯kd Kt 跟中锋 逼嘴绿45度角拔 剩下看天 05/04 15:53
59F:→ xxplayss : 对单核球队超好用的 05/04 15:53
60F:推 HaHaPoint : 对勇士应该会使出个什麽雷射电磁炮之类的招数 05/04 15:53
61F:推 igotyouhaha : 被哈登买饭破解也太好笑XD 包夹手更多更容易买到了 05/04 15:54
62F:推 asusm307 : 本来不想用这招的 05/04 15:54
63F:推 yankees733 : 闪电滴滴 05/04 15:55
64F:→ iamaq18c : 还真的有藏招XD 05/04 15:55
65F:推 JayFans0610 : 这招防守有用吧,文中有说DeRozan几乎每次持球都包 05/04 15:55
66F:→ JayFans0610 : 夹,这种情况你要他多准也很难 05/04 15:55
67F:推 CaTkinGG : 皇帝骑士团使出闪电夹击 05/04 15:55
68F:→ shwkz : 超中二的标题 什麽闪电夹击 = = 05/04 15:55
69F:推 guardian128 : 那什麽时候要使出十万伏特? 05/04 15:56
70F:推 s855160 : 希望今年笑话对的球迷不用再跑厕所 05/04 15:56
71F:推 gundam01 : 就季赛不想用这麽花体力的战术 05/04 15:56
72F:→ gundam01 : 被防守方的传球能力决定这招成功率 05/04 15:57
73F:推 yellowboy : 对勇士这招会被射喷 05/04 15:57
74F:→ shwkz : 太隆乳究竟是没料还是装白痴 让我们继续看下去 05/04 15:57
75F:推 alashih : 这名字超中二啦 哈哈哈 05/04 15:57
76F:推 JayFans0610 : 所以骑士去年前两场包夹浪花就被替补打爆拉XD 05/04 15:57
77F:推 qwer2411 : 老大无感 05/04 15:58
78F:推 ssd123698745: 就是包主力放另一个人投啊 Harrison Barnes 表示: 05/04 15:58
79F:→ dahlia7357 : 柯铝落沟下 汤神百式观音 杜兰特舒适西装 05/04 15:58
80F:→ dahlia7357 : 嘴绿破蛋腿 还有X教授总教练柯尔 05/04 15:59
81F:推 saiallblue : 绿季後赛投篮准度也起来 05/04 15:59
82F:推 pttmylove : 中二的名字 05/04 15:59
83F:推 opse1020 : 听起来好像四驱车...闪电跑法!!! 05/04 15:59
84F:→ dahlia7357 : 怎麽看勇士特异功能很难守阿 05/04 15:59
85F:推 hhjjhhgg : 看推文还以为去年冠军是勇士 05/04 15:59
86F:推 gundam01 : 可是勇士如果像去年一样场上有个状况很差的 05/04 16:00
87F:推 treeson : 真的 稍微看骑士比赛的人就会发现平常跟纸一样的防 05/04 16:00
88F:→ treeson : 守突然多出超多包夹 05/04 16:00
89F:→ gundam01 : 难保不会最後又球转移到状况很差的人手上 05/04 16:00
90F:→ dahlia7357 : 希望勇士的杜兰总冠军不要穿西装 这样勇士会无解 05/04 16:00
91F:→ treeson : 虽然总是在LBJ下去後回复成纸 05/04 16:00
92F:推 tonyparker18: 勇士本来就规格外的球队 毕竟今年一定冠军嘛 05/04 16:01
93F:推 taikonkimo : 去年勇士是输的喔 不过咖哩状况超烂 05/04 16:01
94F:→ derekjou : 不是去年就用过了?小鸡就被放空的那位 05/04 16:01
95F:推 bahamutuh : 这对KOBE一定没用!!! 05/04 16:01
96F:→ taikonkimo : 今年状况目前看来正常 有得打了 05/04 16:01
97F:推 lin214 : 藤吉是你? 05/04 16:02
98F:→ bahamutuh : 三夹之内皆是空档 05/04 16:02
99F:→ gundam01 : 除非像前2场那样绿叶状况很好 球怎麽传都能进 05/04 16:02
100F:推 Myosotis : 伞店 05/04 16:02
101F:推 LoveDonGin : 对勇士用..就是被三分喷的满脸都是 就算用柯瑞 他也 05/04 16:02
102F:→ LoveDonGin : 很会传球 05/04 16:02
104F:推 funk6478 : 勇士进攻选择太多 无解 05/04 16:03
105F:推 gygycowbei : 来个旋风冲锋阿 05/04 16:05
106F:→ tonyparker18: 勇士两套先发阵容 这招没用啦 05/04 16:06
107F:推 rockman73 : 闪电夹击XDDDDDDD 05/04 16:06
108F:推 TDKnight : 老大平常都在夹击中命中球.. 根本不怕这种战术 05/04 16:06
109F:推 dahlia7357 : 骑士要抓紧柯铝放大的时机 柯铝集满气会背後传球 05/04 16:06
110F:推 robinson : 对有射程的对手无效 05/04 16:10
111F:推 saikai1007 : 还真的有在藏 05/04 16:10
112F:推 Chtgo : 这招对勇士没用 练的干麻 勇士要20元.... 05/04 16:11
113F:推 Wardyal : 闪电十一人 05/04 16:12
114F:推 u9596g12 : 星光流连夹击! 05/04 16:12
115F:推 dahlia7357 : 讲真的 这种文章比LYS好太多 05/04 16:13
116F:嘘 oklagg : 对方会传就破功,不就一般包夹而已 05/04 16:14
117F:推 a1121210 : 把主将弄到崩溃就赢一半了 05/04 16:14
118F:嘘 signm : 阿不就包夹 05/04 16:15
119F:→ a1121210 : 但是勇士崩溃一个 旁边还好几个 05/04 16:15
120F:推 jones17188 : 感觉也不是卢想的啊,都说了是姆斯在热火的战术 05/04 16:15
121F:→ signm : 写这麽长一篇阿不就包夹,你对勇士包看看啊 05/04 16:15
122F:推 ELMOCUTE : 这跟本选好 暴龙 遛马了 05/04 16:16
123F:推 o0991758566 : 果然藏!!! 已经预约总冠军了 05/04 16:17
124F:推 windsad2006 : 看到大仁哥忽然笑了... 05/04 16:17
125F:推 cdpicker : KOBE:都是空档 05/04 16:17
126F:嘘 oklagg : 看他讲萝莉那段,就是针对主要得分球员包夹而已… 05/04 16:19
127F:→ oklagg : 传出去都是空档,闪电夹击咧 05/04 16:19
128F:推 joker6 : 还真的有藏啊 05/04 16:19
129F:推 kkkk0923 : 这招对勇士没用,勇士球的传球很好 05/04 16:20
130F:推 westdoor5566: 名字够中二给推 05/04 16:21
131F:推 yuchiehchan : 勇士今年躺着总冠军,藏什麽招都一样喇 05/04 16:22
133F:推 geniept : Lue: 我再强调一次 这不是包夹 是 闪 电 包 夹 05/04 16:23
134F:推 dalinman : LBJ:伞~~电~~~~~ 05/04 16:24
※ 发信站: 批踢踢实业坊(ptt.cc)
※ 转录者: tshih (140.112.30.35), 05/04/2017 16:24:50
135F:→ tshih: 自己的ACE被下陷阱夹爆了Casey还在那边进攻没信心... 05/04 16:26
136F:→ thcfanclub: 这种战术中间如果没有希腊人或是姆斯很难成功,然後如 05/04 18:58
137F:→ thcfanclub: 果球队有几个三分射手的话,效果就会下降。大三分时代 05/04 18:59
138F:→ thcfanclub: 暴龙不多找几个射手来,很难冲出东区 05/04 19:00
139F:→ speedythief: 跟DDR的传球能力也有关啦,毕竟传球在这层级讲求天分 05/04 19:42
140F:→ speedythief: DDR已经很努力了,但他就从来不是一个好的分球者 05/04 19:43