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※ 引述《matrixz (菊地)》之铭言: : ※ 引述《SmallJohn (给我发挥实力!OK!)》之铭言: : : 可以安排两个攻击小组的棒次,只要其中一个小组发挥就能得分 : : 第一组攻击小组 : : 1.CoCo -有上垒率又有速度,不容易死掉 : : 2.Loretta -有时会有小火力支援,又会推进垒包 : : 3.Ortiz -关键时刻会把跑者送回来 : : 4.Manny -球来就轰 : : 5.Varitek -钱给这麽多,不排中心棒次说不过去,只能等他睡醒了 : : 6.Nixon -基本上偶而可以上垒,等待後段棒次支援 : : 第二组攻击小组外加九一连线 : : 7.Lowell -二垒安打王,埋伏在後段棒次,可以冷不防打投手一枪 : : 8.A-Gon -自杀王,但是需要推进垒包时还是能发挥功用 : : 9.Youkilis -九一连线,得分无限 : : 这样得分机会也不错多...也可以去除过去留下太多残垒的因素... : GOD 你怎麽会有这种观念 : 以前一直认为你是大大 : 讲出来的东西应该算有些内容 : 可是你的观念真的太怪异了 : 这几天看了有点受不了 : 说什麽打击不要挥大棒 : 球碰出去就好..............(MY GOD) : 转国内新闻进来这 : 排棒次................(中职队板乡民最爱的习惯) : 现在还来个九一连线 It's not necessarily ISOLATED to the MLB. Tony La Russa has done this lots of times. He'd put his pitchers in the 8th spot and a fielding player in the 9th spot. Of course, in yesterday's game, his pitchers should have been hitting 4th. : 套一句板友对你说的,中职余毒太深了 : 不要把那些东西带来这边 : 攻击阵容不要什麽第二攻击小组 : 也没有什麽两个阶段 : 更可怕的是还来个九一连线 : Youkilis就是前三棒的料 : 放到第九棒是在干麻 : 这个位子国联都拿投手来auto-out : 怎麽还会摆431/497/317勒 : 下次要写什麽分析,麻烦请先三思啦!! There are lots of batting order studies. They're on the internet. You can find them using this tool called Google. "Your three best hitters should bat somewhere in the #1, #2 and #4 slots. Your fourth- and fifth-best hitters should occupy the #3 and #5 slots. The #1 and #2 slots will have players with more walks than those in the #4 and #5 slots. From slot #6 through #9, put the players in descending order of quality." Our 3 best hitters: Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz, and Mike Lowell (for now) Now, had somebody suggested that say Manny Ramirez hit LEADOFF, you'd be all over his ass like stink on cheese. From the same writers: "If we go back to the real world of baseball, we realize that you can't hide a batter. The best you can do is to defer him to the bottom of the batting order. But even batting ninth, he will eventually come up" Eventually Alex Gonzalez is coming up to hit. Just how often. Now, this is one position on batting order Another position on batting order: "Batting order doesn't matter." I believe the official Bill James party line on batting order is this: (this is stolen from our good friend Debugger) "不过到目前为止这个讨论分成两派。一派包含了酒吧里的看球专家、走传统路线的体育 作家、躺在沙发上看电视的球迷、call-in 节目中常打电话进去表示意见的人,这些人 相信打击顺序很重要。另一派则是真正对这个问题下过功夫,这些人在作过研究之後下 了结论,说不管打序怎麽安排,最後的得分数都会是差不多。至於要相信哪一派的说法 ,你可以自己选择。" Believe what you like. I buy the "doesn't matter" bit because it helps reassure me that it doesn't matter that our manager is an idiot. My personal belief is that yes, it does matter, for a good team on the threshold. An optimal batting order over a "decent" batting order, optimizes what, 5 extra runs a season? Yes, that makes or breaks a season, but only with a decent team like the Red Sox. If you're the Royals, it wouldn't matter anyway, 5 runs isn't stopping you from taking the 1st overall position in next's entry draft. Hopefully they'll spend money on a high school pitcher with gas. Kind of like your motehr smoking while preganant with you, or not smoking. It would have helped that your mother DIDN'T smoke while she was pregnant, but you were going to be fucking retarded ANYWAY regardless of the smoking. You didn't have chance. Just like the Royals --



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◆ From: 140.112.212.196 ※ 编辑: IronChef 来自: 140.112.212.196 (05/27 16:47)
1F:推 kikory:他可能会说Tony La Russa观念错了吧,请La Russa自D 05/27 16:47
2F:推 IronChef:I don't think much of La Russa either 05/27 16:49
3F:→ IronChef:I'm not saying La Russa is right or wrong 05/27 16:49
4F:→ IronChef:I'm saying it doesn't matter 05/27 16:50
5F:→ IronChef:Although I'd have Mike Hampton hit cleanup 05/27 16:50
6F:→ IronChef:Might actually drive a runner in once a while 05/27 16:50
7F:推 IronChef:Mike Hampton had the highest BA in my FB one year 05/27 16:51
8F:→ IronChef:Bad year for me 05/27 16:52
9F:推 kikory:我同意你呀,没有什麽正确与否的问题 05/27 16:53
10F:推 bonoo:而且Tony La Russa还会强迫取分....不过红雀战积可是好的很 05/27 19:24
11F:→ IronChef:Becuase they have Albert Pujols 05/27 19:42
12F:推 greengreen42:Because they have a lot of stars. 05/27 20:32
13F:推 IronChef:Because David Eckstein is CLUTCH!!!!!!!! 05/27 21:03
14F:推 bonoo:你们可以看看红雀今年除了pujols成积... 05/27 21:43
15F:→ bonoo:还有可以看看全队的打击率上垒率长打率防御率盗垒...... 05/27 21:45
16F:→ bonoo:那一项有联盟前10名 和战积比一比 05/27 21:45
17F:→ bonoo:Tony La Russa是很好的教练.. 05/27 21:47
18F:→ bonoo:防御率第2XD 不过打击都排很後面 ... 05/27 21:51







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