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标题[新闻] Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Vale
时间Wed Aug 15 07:35:10 2012
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Exclusive: Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Valentine in heated July meeting
with ownership
Boston Red Sox players blasted manager Bobby Valentine to owners John Henry
and Larry Lucchino during a heated meeting called after a text message was
sent by a group of frustrated players to the team and ownership in late July,
three sources familiar with the meeting told Yahoo! Sports.
袜袜球员在会议上向老板抱怨8BV
The owners called the meeting for Boston's off-day in New York on July 26
after first baseman Adrian Gonzalez, texting on behalf of himself and some
teammates, aired their dissatisfaction with Valentine for embarrassing
starting pitcher Jon Lester by leaving him in to allow 11 runs during a July
22 start. It was the latest incident in a season's worth of bad relations
bubbling between Red Sox players and Valentine.
以阿冈为首
Gonzalez and Dustin Pedroia were among the most vocal in the meeting, in
which some players stated flatly they no longer wanted to play for Valentine,
the sources said. The tenor of the 2 p.m. meeting at The Palace hotel in New
York turned ugly almost immediately, according to the sources, whom Yahoo!
Sports granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about
internal matters.
阿冈和小派骂得最大声 其他球员则说就是不想为8BV打球了
Not all of the Red Sox players attended the meeting, the sources said,
highlighting the chasm that exists not only between some players and
Valentine but among players in the clubhouse. The perception that Valentine
is being scapegoated unfairly to divert attention from mediocre performances
by star players exists among some players, according to sources.
有人认为8BV是明星球员表现平庸的代罪羔羊
Red Sox general manager Ben Cherington confirmed the meeting. Although he
declined to provide specifics about what was said, he told Yahoo! Sports:
"The intent of the meeting was to provide a forum for people to express
whatever frustration needed to be expressed at a time during the season when
things were not going exactly the way we wanted to on the field in hopes that
we could put whatever issues were there aside and focus on playing games the
rest of the season. That was the intent of the meeting. That was the focus of
ownership. It was a productive meeting.
Ben出来讲官话: 这是有用的会议 球员可以表达挫折
"Since then, we have not gone on the run we were supposed to."
Ownership has not wavered in its support of Valentine since the meeting, and
the sources said players have accepted that Valentine will remain manager for
at least the rest of the season. The Red Sox doubled down on Valentine over
the last week despite the perception that his first year as Boston manager
has been an abject failure. Boston, with an opening day payroll of $173.2
million, is 57-59 and sits 11 games back of the first-place Yankees and 5½
behind the second wild card. The Red Sox's last sub-.500 season was in 1997.
Through a spokesman, the team and Valentine declined comment.
会议以来,高层没动摇对8BV的支持,球员接受8BV至少会带完本季。
袜袜战绩很烂。
Eight days ago, besieged by questions about Valentine's present and future,
Red Sox general manager Cherington told reporters: "Bobby is our manager, and
we're not considering anyone else. He's as committed to managing the team as
he ever has been, and we're committed to him and trying to do everything we
can to support him and make this work."
Ben力挺8BV:我们不考虑别人。
Henry emailed a statement to Boston media members that echoed the sentiment.
"To blame Bobby Valentine for the Red Sox being .500 at this point in the
season," he wrote, "is simply wrong."
Henry声明:把袜袜现在胜率低於五成,怪在8BV身上是错的。
Some of the Red Sox's biggest names disagree.
有些袜袜球员不同意。
Issues that have inflamed players range far and wide. Leaving in Lester, a
well-respected figure in the clubhouse, to get blasted for 11 runs and four
home runs against Toronto soured players already beaten down by Valentine's
managerial style. Valentine uttering "Nice inning, kid" to rookie third
baseman Will Middlebrooks after he made a defensive blunder – an episode to
which Valentine admitted on WEEI radio – only furthered the animus toward
the 62-year-old, who is managing in the major leagues for the first time
since 2002. Since spring training, players have chafed at Valentine's
careless – and occasionally self-serving – interactions with the Boston
media, which his predecessor, Terry Francona, handled adroitly.
"I don't think it's that uncommon for complaints to be made during the
season," Cherington told Yahoo! Sports. "I'm not going to comment
specifically on those complaints. Our owners felt, given where we were at
that time in the season, given the collective frustration, we had not
accomplished what we wanted to. It was time to get together and hash things
out. There were no ultimatums issued. There were concerns expressed. Some
very positive things expressed, too. We felt that it was an opportunity to
get things off people's chests and move forward."
From the beginning of the Red Sox's courtship of Valentine this offseason to
the double-barreled votes of confidence last week, the match of the
hard-nosed Bobby V with the laissez-faire Boston clubhouse seemed tenuous at
best. It has proven far worse, personified best perhaps by a picture
circulating around via text message, according to a fourth source.
A general lack of respect for Valentine has pervaded the clubhouse throughout
the season. It may have peaked two days after the meeting, on July 28, when
Francona entered the Red Sox's clubhouse as an ESPN analyst. He started
talking with Pedroia, his most strident loyalist. Other players soon joined
the conversation, which lingered for 45 minutes. Francona apologized the next
day.
The Red Sox's tumultuous year started with their collapse last September,
followed by the team declining to re-sign Francona. After general manager
Theo Epstein left to run the Chicago Cubs, Cherington, one of his assistants,
took control of the team – until Lucchino wrested the managerial hire from
him. Ownership picked Valentine and Cherington rubber-stamped it, hopeful the
organization could grow cohesive over the two-year span of Valentine's
contract.
Instead, the Red Sox have splintered, not a shock considering Valentine's
history of divide-and-conquer management. For all of his supposed strategic
genius, Valentine wore out his welcome managing the Texas Rangers and New
York Mets because of his willingness to napalm personal relationships. It led
to a decade-long exile from the major leagues, most of which he spent in
Japan.
Valentine returned no different a manager. He barely talks with some of the
coaches on his staff, several of whom remain Francona supporters. The trade
of Kevin Youkilis, the World Series fixture who first exposed fractures
between the players and Valentine, devolved into a public-relations mess.
Then there are the oddities, like Valentine devising a plan to never play
outfielder Carl Crawford more than four days in a row because of an elbow
that may need surgery, only to abandon the idea less than a week later.
Certainly the concoction of losing and an unfamiliar style has hurt
Valentine's standing with players. Ownership remains in Valentine's corner,
with Henry saying in his statement eight days ago: "We have been nothing but
supportive of him inside and outside the clubhouse."
The support, according to the sources, baffles those against Valentine, who
wonder why the meeting was called if it wasn't going to change anything.
高层支持8BV让讨厌8BV的球员困惑。既然啥都改变不了,召开会议有__用。
During the meeting, the players told Henry and Lucchino that part of the
disconnect comes from Valentine spending excessive time in his office.
He'll retreat there again tonight, when Boston takes on Baltimore at Camden
Yards, still wearing a Red Sox uniform, still running one of baseball's great
teams, survivor of a mutiny.
For now.
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1F:推 tsubasa6405:小派就算了 感觉像好好先生的阿冈靠杯最大声 08/15 07:38
2F:→ iwgpg1ghc:再立威啊 去动小派跟阿冈啊 08/15 07:40
3F:推 tsubasa6405:不知道老爹有没有说什麽 如果连他都靠盃8BV 科科 08/15 07:43
4F:→ tsubasa6405:一个总教练来个半季就把当家一二三垒全惹毛 不简单 08/15 07:45
5F:推 zxcv6578:GM也是同夥的阿!!!!!!!!!! 08/15 07:48
6F:→ Carmelo3:监督在日本像老爸一样 Bobby把日本那套带来管major球员 08/15 08:48
7F:→ LebronKing:铁拳振表示: 08/15 08:52
8F:→ LBJKO:若这战绩最後能让大情人走路 值得!! 08/15 09:04
9F:推 deangboin:也不看看别队 换了打击教练就飞天了 08/15 09:05
10F:→ maxspeed150:终於开炮了 可是GM照挺 08/15 09:11
11F:嘘 highlightboy:纯嘘红袜内奸总管Ben Charington 08/15 09:27
12F:→ spko:连"No I, Team First"的Peddy都炮轰这麽大声,大情人真该滚了 08/15 09:40
13F:推 tsubasa6405:Peddy从季初对8BV的炮声好像就没停过 08/15 09:51
14F:→ iwgpg1ghc:P好像没直接炮? 但光头事件是站在光头那边 08/15 09:52
15F:推 tsubasa6405:四月他不就说过8BV把人冰板凳那套只在日本有用了? 08/15 09:55
16F:推 iwgpg1ghc:对喔 谢谢提醒 08/15 09:58
17F:推 enoeno:掐灵顿和大情人一起滚蛋吧 08/15 09:59
18F:推 delay815:小派又开炮了~Bobby你切腹吧~反正你日系哲学嘛 08/15 11:54
19F:推 Orcish:多数有用的伤员都回来了 战绩还是不见起色 变装癖:红袜是 08/15 12:31
20F:→ Orcish:季後赛队伍 咯咯 08/15 12:32
21F:推 tony160079:整个内野都被引战了 小帅哥也来炮吧 08/15 13:12
22F:推 iwgpg1ghc:内野只有菜的不敢呛声了 8BV真是失败 08/15 13:15
23F:→ JeremyKSKGA:8BV滚蛋!! 08/15 13:38
24F:→ zell:BobbyV调度很烂,带人也很烂,但上场的是球员,钱也领的比他多 08/15 18:20
25F:→ zell:球员打不好不能拿总教练烂当藉口 08/15 18:21
26F:推 meteorhades:教练和GM两个都烂爆了就是事实 08/15 19:32
27F:→ mygoing:不管薪水是领多少 如果球员们不服教练时 球员自然会出现公 08/15 19:57
28F:→ mygoing:务员的心态 而且球员离开的话也并不会失去什麽 08/15 19:59
29F:→ mygoing:再说之前乡民们x的要死的粉科南 反观球员们对他也没出现这 08/15 20:01
30F:→ mygoing:麽如此的波涛汹涌 08/15 20:02
31F:→ mygoing:虽然今年伤兵是多到夸张 几乎是一进一出 二进一出的比例 08/15 20:04
32F:→ mygoing:但夺冠的老将.球员都还在 精神.经验依旧 就欠缺一个带心的 08/15 20:05
33F:推 QQ5566:redsoxqq 08/15 22:59
34F:推 highlightboy:教练能带心 打线都能击溃洋基 所以问题就是教练 08/16 11:08
35F:→ highlightboy:只是老板和掐零顿都很淡定 08/16 11:09
36F:→ highlightboy:牛棚群的实力只能打中职 勘用吗? 08/16 11:10