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标题[端倪] 霍桑实验之Hawthorne Headhunters Mixtape
时间Tue Sep 1 17:17:19 2009
曾接触过法政类科的人应该对Hawthorne这个字不会陌生。
Hawthorne Headhunters(
http://www.myspace.com/hawthorneheadhunter)是由
I, Ced(
http://www.myspace.com/ced74)、
Black Spade(
http://www.freshselects.net/blackspadeobama)和
Proh Mic(
http://www.myspace.com/prohmic)三人组成的制作团队,而这张经由
DJ Needles(
http://www.myspace.com/djneedles)混音、可供免费或赞助付费下载的
HVW8 RECORDS x FRESH SELECTS present…Hawthorne Headhunters Mixtape,是近期我听
得很仔细的专辑。
先从这首歌曲下手,She Wanna。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgC7a-uo_NM
She Wanna是今年年初便找得到的歌曲,这支live video的人员就是接下来的专辑班底
(但控制团体主节奏的I, Ced并未於video中现身)。
一开始坐着的那位是Black Spade。他在2008年发行个人专辑To Serve With Love,在台
湾是交由映象唱片出版(台压片
http://www.hinote.com.tw/product.aspx?sn=4913),节
奏很特别的一张alternative HipHop专辑。
中途出现的女声是JimiJames(
http://www.myspace.com/rahrahgirl)。取了个男性化
的名字,又称为Rah Rah Girl(
http://www.jimijamesmusic.com/)的JimiJames,2006年
曾发行她的音乐碟The Truth(
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/jimij)。这类现场演出经验超
丰富的女声,音乐掌握度比一般录音室歌手要强很多。(请参本板3952篇或关键字搜寻)
那位乱晃的男声就是Coultrain(
http://www.myspace.com/coultrainmusic)。个人高
度推崇的Coultrain,来自密西西比河岸的圣路易城,以些许蓝调的嗓音,表现慵懒却自信
的独特音乐性,无论是出版的个人专辑或与
PPP(
http://www.myspace.com/platinumpiedpipers)的合作,都是不可多得的作品。
原始版本的She Wanna请参:
http://www.moovmnt.com/2008/07/03/the-hawthorne-headhunters-she-wanna-hvw8/
HVW8 RECORDS x FRESH SELECTS present…Hawthorne Headhunters Mixtape,是7月初
与黑乐网站freshselects(
http://www.freshselects.net/)联名发表之作,基本上它的
歌曲卡接并不是做的很出色;但我们可以不考虑这小瑕疵。这张专辑传达的要旨,似乎隐
藏着1920年代Hawthorne Experience的精神──
从「科学管理」以理论主导的局限中,找出後来意外促成的「行为科学」理论
科学管理好比是HipHop和R&B的各自论述,行为科学则是「归纳变动中的人的行为」。
Hawthorne Headhunters以HipHop和R&B为根基,藉着不断的实验,考虑客观的「人的因
素」(实证法),或许过程是让人摸不着头绪的新手段,结果也纯属未知,但其目的却是
为广意范畴的黑人音乐试探新方向。
这是自2005年左右便展开的音乐态度,这张mixtape,只是众多实验中的其中一个果实,
期待再五年左右,HipHop与R&B可经由这些默默耕耘的人们手中,媒合出新乐种。这不是凭
空臆测,而是可大胆猜测的未来事实。
Tracklisting:
01. Proh Mic
- Cosmic Beauty (Intro)
02. Black Spade
- Hater (feat. Coultrain & Jada Avenue)
03. Jada Avenue
- Heartbeat (prod. Ced No)
04. JimiJames
- Still In Your Heart (prod. Proh Mic)
05. Stopha Vasquez
- Damn (prod. Ced No)
06. Proh Mic
- Bang Smooth
07. Black Spade
- Loose Bars
08. I, CED
- Love…Meaning (Bossa Nova Remix) (feat. Coultrain)
原曲:
http://www.indabamusic.com/songs/show/55994
or
http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/08/nightcap-with-i-ced-and-coultrain
09. I, CED
- Voice Demo (Interlude)
10. Proh Mic
- Smile (feat. G. Soulo & Tiffany Wilson)
11. Black Spade
- Nigga Ray Leonard
12. Black Spade
- Across 110th Street
13. TeLuv
- Falling Sky (prod. Ced No)
14. Hawthorne Headhunters
- Oddyssey Lover (Instrumental)
15. Hawthorne Headhunters
- Never Give Up (feat. Coultrain)
16. Hawthorne Headhunters
- Get Up!
17. Hawthorne Headhunters
- Shining Star (Instrumental)
18. Hawthorne Headhunters
- Solar Madness (feat. Stopha Vasquez & Jada Avenue)
附录
介绍一
The Hawthorne Headhunters is a project made up of the individuals Stoney
Rock (aka Black Spade), Ced No and Proh Mic and was conceived in 2007 at
Ced’s recording studio in that special place between Long Beach and Los
Angeles - Hawthorne, California.
Black Spade’s music is a melting pot of sounds hailing from St. Louis by
way of New York, Detroit, L.A., and everywhere that hip-hop has carved a
distinctive and influential sound for itself. Along with his longtime friend
Ced from St. Louis and Seattle transplant Proh Mic, the trio locked it down
under the shine of Hollywood Park and created songs in the great traditions
of musical heavyweight projects such as Funkadelic, Soulquarians, Native
Tongues Posse and Bloomfield, Kooper, and Stills’ Super Session.
The Hawthorne Headhunters are at the crossroads of funk, soul, jazz and
hip-hop from players already years deep in the game. The music spans these
genres seamlessly blurring the lines between the Southern-influenced tastes
of singer/rapper/producer Black Spade and keyboard and studio controller Ced
No with the next level northern bounce of rapper/producer Proh Mic.
Features guests such as soul singer/songwriter Coultrain and L.A. based
JimiJames. Executive produced by Tyler Gibney.
(
http://music.hvw8.com/category/artists/hawthorne-headhunters/)
介绍二
I know its been a minute but here it is - the highly anticipated mixtape
from the new hybrid supergroup, Hawthorne Headhunters. For those of you who
still don’t know, HH is a three-headed production/vocal beast consisting of
Stoney Rock (better known as Black Spade), Ced No (or I, CED when he’s solo)
and Proh Mic. The group’s debut project, a five-track EP, drops next week on
both vinyl and iTunes as the first release on HVW8 Records.
To go along with the EP, we’ve put together this mixtape, mixed by STL
cohort DJ Needles, featuring the best of the group’s unreleased works over
the years - both solo and as a unit. Also highlighted in the mix are their
solo productions for some of their up-and-coming collaborators, including
Coultrain, Jada Avenue, JimiJames, Stopha Vasquez, and TeLuv - most of which
appear on the EP.
And even with 18 exclusive tracks - this mixtape is just the beginning of a
barrage of material coming from the Hawthorne Headhunters. So stay tuned to
right here and HVW8.com for plenty more music coming soon. In the meantime,
download the mixtape below and let us know what you think.
(
http://www.freshselects.net/hawthorneheadhuntersmixtape)
official website:
http://www.hvw8.com/
blog:
http://www.hvw8.com/site/category/news/
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※ 编辑: prexceed 来自: 59.115.8.209 (09/01 17:18)
※ 编辑: prexceed 来自: 59.115.8.209 (09/01 20:38)
1F:推 AmdsLancelot:She Wanna 这种曲风现在好像很多人做! 赞! 09/02 23:36
2F:推 AmdsLancelot:之前看到Black Spade不知道是哪号人物!现在知道了!!! 09/03 00:53
补充
R&B和HipHop
由於是定型之产物
很容易被人们拿来套用
就拿R&B的唱腔这显而易见的争点来说
这已经是超过二十年的定义之一了
也就是说
讨论 "应如何" 表现音乐
绝对无法创造与突破
只能像台湾的素人歌唱节目一样
画地自限的唱着老歌
诸如Hawthorne Headhunters者
则把重心移至 "是如何" 表现音乐
"应如何" 与 "是如何" 的最大不同
就在於有没有套用 "曲风的法则"
简单的说
"应如何" 是R&B应该怎麽表现
"是如何" 是这个人是怎麽表现他的R&B
"是如何" 的缺点如同lans所说
可能你会听到很多人做这种
但你说不出来谁是典范
或许可能哪日有谁足以成为典范
也可能不
而这也是 "是如何" 的优势
把人的行为看得很重
把人的社会或生活的内心现实活化了
它在还没有成为一种既定曲风之前
是容许做多方尝试的
说穿了
这也就是 "归纳" 与 "演绎" 的斗争
倘若追究 "曲风" 与 "人的表现" 的关连
它基本上就不是一项结构优良的论题
※ 编辑: prexceed 来自: 114.41.57.58 (09/03 23:32)
※ 编辑: prexceed 来自: 114.41.57.58 (09/03 23:40)
3F:推 AmdsLancelot:推"是如何"! 09/03 23:50
4F:→ AmdsLancelot:成为典范後,就会跑出很多以"应如何"在做音乐的人啦~ 09/03 23:51
5F:推 JuliusErving:推p大 很喜欢She Wanna 这首对我来说恰到好处 ! 09/04 00:37