作者anslasagoos (Poleaxe)
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标题[其他]anti-christian music..
时间Fri Aug 1 10:29:05 2008
这个标题是我在behemoth官方讨论版所看到的
原po在问说为什麽黑金属总是反基督,而不是其他的宗教
我觉得还蛮有趣的,原网址如下
http://tinyurl.com/5m76zw
撷取几个重点回复
原po
Anti-Christian Music
Postby Ninazu on Sat Sep 15, 2007 5:01 am
Hi,
I've been wondering for a long time, Why is black metal
only against Christianity, I mean to believe in Satan is to
believe in Jesus and eternal torment? Why don't they go
anti against Buddhist and Hinduism and others? lol :?
以下trueinferno的回覆:
by TrueInferno on Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:23 pm
and maybe because Christianity has a black history,
which always becomes forgotten. Just remember the crusades,
the burning of witches, the conspiracies from the Vatican etc.
Other religions do not have this special attitude like
"you have to be a member of our religion"
- they are more tolerant - even if some western christianized
countries got the attitude (after a long time). I can imagine that
the hate against Islam will grow in the future, because it's extreme
"representatives" (I mean the fundamentalists) do behave crazy...
Black Metal is not just against Christianity, but like manticore
wrote before basically against it.
Meads of Asphodel (although I don't listen to the band) for example
insults every god(des) they know...
Often there are not Black Metal bands which insult (for example) Allah,
but songs like "Die for Allah" is a criticism...
大意是说也许是基督宗教有一段黑暗的历史,但总是会被大众忘记
例如十字军东征及猎巫行动还有罗马教廷的阴谋...etc.
且其他宗教没有那种"你必须要信基督"这种态度,相对其他宗教就显得宽容些
trueinferno认为未来可能对伊斯兰的仇恨会与日剧增因为那些疯狂的报复行动
其实黑金属不仅反基督,但基本上像manticore这个乐团的歌词就是反基督
例如Meads of Asphodel这个团(虽然我没听他们个歌曲)则是反所有他们知道
的神只,通常没有反阿拉的黑金属乐团,除了"Die for Allah"这首歌曲外...
另一个讨论者Mespheber则做出以下回应
"Allah" means "G*od" in Arab. :wink:
Basically, BM strikes Christianity because they can. Other religions
are not more tolerant. Gandhi were shot by an hindu when he
reformed the religious system of casts, which is officially illegal
but still remains. Buddhism is such a religion that one who would
sing "Buddha burns in Hell" would looks like a jerk (err... still not a
bad idea :huhhh: ) In France, we had a famous singer named
Veronique Samson who wrote a song saying "Allah, what's the point
for you to have a name?" and pointing the misuse of religion in
policy, intolerance and so on. She was threatened to death
and finally had to apologize
publicly because of muslim authorities pressure. If one tries to
attack judaism, he will be sued for antisemitism. However, there is
not much we can be blamed on the matter of belief. Actually we
never tried to convert others since Josue
times (so says the Book). :huhhh:
It is easier to split on christianity because:
1. a christian will always hold the right chick when you hurt its left.
2. Christian power is too weak to fight back like muslim extremists
usually do. Vatican as less power than Virgin, Universal,
Sony Records and so on...
基本上,黑金属反基督是因为"它可以",其他宗教可能没有这麽宽容接纳这种事
例如甘地,因为他改变了宗教仪式而被刺杀;若有人对佛教唱出"佛祖在地狱受苦"
可能看起来有点蠢(err....这也许不是个坏点子)
在法国有个歌手Veronique Samson在歌词内唱出"Allah, what's the point -
for you to have a name?"竟然被要胁说要暗杀他,最後由於回教当权者的压力
被逼的要公开道歉
若是有人批判犹太教的话他可能会被以反犹太主义的名义被控告
然而,犹太信仰其实也没什麽值得去批评的。事实上从约书亚时代开始我们从
来没想去转化他们(圣经说的...)
要批评基督教实在容易多了,因为︰
1.因为上帝说你被打左脸右脸也要给他打
2.基督宗教不像伊斯兰威胁要给你好看
罗马教廷的权利比起维京、环球、新力等唱片公司比起来小太多了!
我觉得上面两个人说的有几分道理
仅供大家参考
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1F:推 worf:推 第二点 ... 柿子挑软的 XDXDXD 08/01 12:31
2F:推 illuminati: 那两个人都是behemoth的团员啊...inferno赞呀! 08/01 13:14
3F:推 GothicMetal:不是信佛的人会说他是疯子,他是认为这样很蠢吧? 08/01 13:38
4F:推 abovelight:好像有点道理.. 08/01 13:42
5F:推 ddtmc:娜姐在演唱会上扮耶稣 被威胁说要绑架他小孩! 08/01 16:03
※ 编辑: anslasagoos 来自: 220.128.202.115 (08/01 17:02)
6F:→ anslasagoos:修正一点翻译的问题... 08/01 17:02
※ 编辑: anslasagoos 来自: 220.128.202.115 (08/01 17:53)
7F:推 youngerh:基督教在传教的过程中,连带影响西方历史非常深远 08/02 22:50
8F:→ youngerh:但也因为基督教在宗教意识较强势,引发许多非教徒的反对 08/02 22:52
9F:→ youngerh:黑金属牵涉许多西方的历史,像在台湾没有这种思维 08/02 22:55
10F:→ youngerh:所以台湾玩黑金属的意识不强~个人浅见~ 08/02 22:56