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标题Endless Space Wiki: Endless part3
时间Sun Jun 8 00:05:05 2014
永恒族第三篇,这篇会一口气全部贴完所有故事
剩下一段莫名其妙的鬼东西明天贴
上两篇:
Endless Space Wiki: Endless part1 (
#1Ja97ZOn)
Endless Space Wiki: Endless part2 (
#1JaR0WEa)
拜托有能力有时间的板友一定要帮我看看并修订里面的翻译问题阿......
实在是太多了,这样会不敢拿出去见人的>"<
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Endless Space Wiki 翻译
http://endlessspace.wikia.com/wiki/Endless_Space_Wiki
google文件:
http://0rz.tw/oRHT9
我把google文件的权限调到只要有连结的人就能评论
如果要修改的板友,请标明修改段落并留下您的ID
这样以後有机会发布时,我才知道感谢名单要列上哪些人
感谢
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Virtualization 虚拟化
One of the great mysteries of any sentient race is the understanding of
consciousness. As Endless technology increased in sophistication, they turned
more and more to questions about this oldest of mysteries. It was one thing
to develop artificial intelligence; they had many of these that were highly
advanced and helped them to run their ships, societies, and habitats.
However, there is a great difference between creating an artificial mind
inside a machine, and actually placing an already living mind inside an
electronic container.
对於任何知觉物种来说,其中一个最大的谜团就是对於意识的认知。因为永恒族的科技已
经臻至炉火纯青的地步,他们开始对於这最古老的谜团投入越来越多的心力。发展人工智
慧是一回事,他们已经有很多极为先进的人工智慧以协助他们控制船、社会及栖息地。然
而,要替机器加装人工智慧,和真的把一个活生生的心智安装到一个电子容器内是差很多
的。
An AI appears to think, and with advanced neural networks and learning
systems the Endless achieved great advances in this area. They still sought
the ultimate prize in this area of study, however: Creating systems and
processes that would allow a being to "upload" its mind and personality into
a computer.
一个AI应该要能够思考,而神经网路和学习系统的进步使的永恒族在这方面得到了很大的
进展。然而,他们仍然寻找着这个领域的终极奖励:发明能够让生物把自己的记忆和性格
「上传」到电脑里的方法和系统。
The Endless were, if nothing else, a patient and dedicated race; in time they
found the mechanisms by which a mind transferred to a machine was
indistinguishable from the copy of that mind housed in the original body. In
a burst of activity, they began to upload and download their very souls, able
to spend time indifferently either traveling through networks or on vehicles.
New forms of sensing organs evolved as the Endless learned to master these
different forms, for communication between virtual entities and sensations
received when in electronic form were radically different from what their
corporeal selves were used to experiencing.
没有比耐心和献身更能形容永恒族的词汇了,他们当时发明了能把心灵转换到机器里的装
置,被复制过去的心灵和原本身体里的几乎毫无二致。他们开始迫不及待的上传和下载他
们自己的灵魂,这使得无论用网路或一般交通工具旅行所花的时间都变得毫无意义。永恒
族要学习驾驭这不同的形态,但这种电子型态与他们熟悉的肉体完全不同,因此他们也要
发展新的感觉器官,好让虚拟体之间能互相交流和获得五感。
This achievement is credited to numerous different scientists and entities
depending on what Endless group's history one reads. The most reliable and
seemingly accurate attribute the discovery of practical virtualization to one
of three sources:
这项成就的来源众说纷纭,端看你从哪个永恒族团体的角度来解读。对於虚拟化贡献最高
的,其中可信度及可靠度最高的来源有三个:
A professor named Sluaym and his research team, working in the Department of
Discovering the Next Way Forward (DINWARD or Advanced Psychology Research) at
the University of the Lee Shore of the North Heeur Ice Sheet on
Memories-of-That-We-Lost;
一个名为斯鲁亚的教授与他的团队,於"我们所失去的记忆"行星的北修尔冰盖上的李氏海
岸的一所大学中的「寻找今後的下一个方向」(DINWARD,或者进阶心理学研究)学院中
进行研究。
A small team of scientists with an openly professed alternative lifestyle,
living in a large orbital complex off a gas giant circling the star named
Tetomeus Minor. Their commune called itself One-Sex-One-Way-Many-Procedures
(Osowmap), and the key team members were Cleeoinal, Clieobur, Cloeeyech, and
Cloeyina.
一支由科学家组成,公然过着所谓奇怪的生活的团队。他们住在一个环绕着「铁托米俄斯
少年」恒星的巨大气态行星的行星轨道太空站上,该团体成员自称为「一性一方、多种程
序」(Osowmap),其中的核心成员有克利欧伊奈、克莱欧布尔、克罗伊耶克和克罗耶娜。
A cyber-warfare team funded by the Ministry of Maintaining Our Chosen
Lifestyle (Mocholi a.k.a. Defense), run by a small cabal of extreme
right-wing officers who were part of the orbital mission that protected the
remains of Kyros as a neutral site.
一支网路战技小队,由「维持神替我们选择的生活」(Mocholi,又名防卫)局所组建。
该团队由一小群极右翼军官营运,他们都是一项保护凯洛斯残余部分为中立区的任务中的
一份子。
However, the most likely candidate was a scientist named Ortaam…
然而,最佳候选者是一个名为欧尔帖的科学家……
Ascension to Godhood 成神
Once the process of the Diaspora began, aided by improved exploitation of
far-flung asteroid belts and greater sophistication in deep-space
construction facilities, the evolution of the Endless began to accelerate at
an almost exponential pace. In several locations they were studying the most
advanced physical and biological sciences imaginable, pushing the boundaries
of life, consciousness, and reality.
在大移民开始时,得益於外围小行星带开采技术的进步及高精密度的外太空建筑设施,使
得永恒族几乎是以指数速度在进步。他们在几个地方研究想像力所及最先进的物理及生物
科技,把生命、意识及现实的境界推到了新高点。
Circling a red dwarf known as Bilgeli were three research stations run by
three of the greatest scientists ever produced by the Endless. They were
geniuses, striving to pierce the unknown, whose efforts were fueled by all
the technology available at the height of the Endless’s power. One station,
Aevum, led by Nona Woerae, studied biology and the sciences of creation and
evolution. The second one, Fatum, was more technical, studying the branches
of mathematics and computational systems and opening up great precision in
planning, forecasting and statistics. The third one, Letum, studied
psychology, neurobiology, and the sciences of the conscious. It was led by an
Alterationist named Spotora Ortaam.
有颗环绕着一个棕矮星的行星,名为比乐伽立,上面有三个研究站,由永恒族有史以来最
杰出的三位科学家运行。他们天赋异秉,以整个永恒族可行的最高科技力为後盾,努力要
揭穿一切未知。其中一个研究站名为伊访,由诺娜.沃瑞领导,专门研究生物科学和创造
及进化的科学。第二个名为法顿,该站较偏向技术性,研究数学及计算机系统的分科,在
计画、预测及统计方面上特别精密。第三个研究站名为列顿,研究心理学、神经生物学和
认知科学,该站由一个名为史波托拉.欧尔帖的交替学家领导。
To this system came a ragged fleet of dilapidated ships led by a visionary
known as Icarael, who had through sheer force of will and character saved an
enormous population of Eaür from death. He had chided, cajoled, raged, and
begged them all the way across a hostile universe, hoping for a kinder fate.
While the sciences of the Bilgeli stations brought solace to many of the
wanderers, Icarael himself was lost to the most ancient of magics; he was
struck by the wisdom and the passion of Spotora, and within a week of their
arrival in the system he had abdicated his post, left the fleet, and sworn to
follow her to the end of time.
有支破破烂烂的舰队来到了这个星系,他们由一个名为依卡瑞尔的幻想家领导,他只靠着
意志力和人格力量就把无数的耶乌尔从死亡边缘拯救出来。他不停对他们疾言厉色及哄骗
哀求,使他们能在这场横跨险峻宇宙以寻找一个祥和命运的旅途中坚持下去。这些梦想家
中的大部分从比乐伽立站的科学中找到了慰藉,而依卡瑞尔却中了最古老的魔法:他深深
迷恋上史波托拉的智慧及热情。在舰队抵达该星系的一个礼拜内,他就宣布退位、离开舰
队、并发誓跟随她直到永远。
Spotora was less than enchanted by this. She needed no passions other than
her work, and the constant flow of refugees entreating Icarael to return to
his position did not improve things. Rejection followed rejection until
Icarael could no longer contain himself; he committed suicide in her
laboratory one day by ordering the Dust to reconfigure her medical equipment,
remove his heart, and place it in stasis. There she saw it when she returned
to her studies after the next sleep cycle, spinning slowly in the
gravity-less environment, paused between beats for all eternity. Curious at
last to learn more of this madman, she analyzed the DNA that had created such
a mind and such a spirit. It turned out to be the final link in her studies,
the last element she required to unlink the conscious from the mortal form.
史波托拉对此倒是没多少陶醉,她对於工作以外的事情都没什麽热情,加上难民们持续恳
求依卡瑞尔回到他的位置上,使的事情没有任何进展。接连不断的拒绝使的依卡瑞尔再也
无法保持他自己,有一天他在她的实验室内自杀了。他命令星尘改造她的医疗设备、移除
自己的心脏并使之保持在血行停滞的状态下。史波托拉在结束她的下一个睡眠循环後回到
实验室,这时才看到这个景象:一颗心脏在无重力环境中永恒的缓缓旋转、搏动着。她最
终对这个疯狂的男子产生了好奇心,并想认识更多关於这人的事情。她分析了创造出如此
心灵和精神的DNA,这个分析成为她研究中的最後一个环节,变成她要把精神从肉体中分
离开来所需的最後一个元素。
The effects of this discovery, in the decades that followed its dissimulation
across Endless space, were enormous. For practical, economic, and social
reasons it caused a major upheaval in the fundamental structure of the
society and a completely new interpretation of the needs of Endless
civilization. Who needed to worry about complexities like food, clothing, and
shelter? As long as there was a sufficiently advanced infrastructure in
place, the needs of all individuals could be met by an adequate supply of
power and good maintenance robots.
这个发现在刻意掩饰下於数十年间传遍了整个宇宙,其影响非常的巨大。无论在实务、经
济和社会方面,它都对整个社会的根本造成了剧变,同时永恒族文明也开始需要一个全新
的定义。谁需要担心像是食物、衣服和遮蔽处这种杂七杂八的东西?只要一个地方有足够
先进的公共建设,光靠足够的能源供给和优良的维持机器人就能达到所有人的需求。
The Death of Death 死亡之死
Virtualization was explosive in its impact on the scattered Endless society.
Death itself, the ultimate foe, had been vanquished by their science. What to
do? Where to go when the possibilities are suddenly as limitless as time?
虚拟化对於这个散乱不堪的永恒族社会造成爆炸性的冲击。死亡,这终极的命运,已经被
他们的科学所击败了。然後呢?当一切可能性突然变得像时间一样无所限制时,他们该往
哪里走?
Sadly, much of the society simply "disconnected" and fell into
thrill-seeking, tourism, extreme experiences… Once nothing could kill you,
why should life have limits? Indulgence and excess rocketed off the scale as
vast swathes of the society experimented with lust, gluttony, and
sadomasochism. Dust could rebuild bodies, Dust could house minds; a society
of bodiless minds with no physical needs became a society totally unhinged
from its roots. Boredom turned them to bizarre and exotic pursuits: the
creation of mutants, living toys, extreme self-alteration... In their wealth
and power they begin to regard anything not wealthy and powerful with
contempt.
遗憾的是,大部分的社会仅仅「断开魂结」并陷入追寻、旅行、极限体验……等等的热潮
之中。既然没人杀的了你,生命还会有什麽限制?无节制的放纵程度升高到达很可怕的地
步,好像整个社会都沉浸於色慾、食慾和SM慾里。星尘能重建身体、能储存心灵,一个没
有肉体只有心灵的社会,在去除了肉体的需求後变成了整个脱离根本的社会。因为太无聊
,他们开始追求更奇怪的嗜好:创造突变体、活体玩具、极限自我交替……在他们的财富
和力量之前,他们开始轻蔑任何事物,认为一切都是没有价值的。
The Great Schism 大分裂
Numerous cracks and a great deal of fragmentation had already begun to occur
in this society that was stretching itself thin across the universe.
Estimates state that given the number of exploratory vessels (which often
developed their own sub-governments and social structures), habitats,
research stations, mining operations, colonized planets, flotillas, and
communes, by 1200 M.E. there were over one thousand discrete societies within
the umbrella that we simply refer to as the Endless.
这个社会扩展到整个宇宙,却让自己变得太过稀薄,而大量的裂缝随之产生。根据估计,
在1200M.E.时,包括探险船(通常都已经发展出自己的子政府及社会结构)、居住地、研
究站、矿场、殖民星、船队和小社团在内,有超过一万个分离的社会躲在以所谓「永恒族
」为名义的大伞之下。
As happened at Kyros, for many reasons--religious, scientific, cultural, and
psychological--the different peoples and groups of Endless drifted apart, and
sometimes into open conflict. However, the advent of virtualization
intensified the process of polarization and differentiation as all of the
various sub-elements of the society came face to face with unexpectedly
simple answers to difficult questions about life, the future, and
immortality. The responses to this event were as numerous as the society was
splintered.
就像凯洛斯的悲剧,为了各种理由─宗教、科学、文化和心理,不同的永恒族人和团体之
间开始渐行渐远,有时还会演变为公开冲突。然而,虚拟化的出现加剧了对立与分化的进
程,因为关於生命、未来及永恒的亘古难题,现在都在无法预料的情况下突然有了简单的
答案,而整个社会都要被逼着面对。作为对这个事件的回应,同等程度的撕裂伤开始出现
在社会上。
It was simple for Osowmap, who immediately uploaded themselves, had robots
give their bodies a fine funeral, and disappeared into the databanks of their
habitat. As their computer systems were already geared to the creation of
multiple worlds and consciousnesses, they had found their virtual eternity.
More puritan groupings took a middle road, using the virtual phase of
existence for communication and research, but guarding the corporeal form for
socializing, intimacy, and celebration. Examples of this were the
Technologists who intensively developed all the orbital bodies they could
find around the star Tau Cetarum, the Shared Mind Shared Responsibilities
Shared Land (Shamsharshal) nation based in the Oort-cloud distance asteroids
around the inhospitably hot blue-white sun of Chremus, and many of the
remaining inhabitants of the original world, Tor, who felt a certain
obligation of stewardship for the planet.
对於Osowmap来说很容易,他们立刻上载了自己、用机器人替他们的躯体办了个隆重的丧
礼,并消失在他们居住地的资料库中。因为他们的电脑系统早已能与多重世界作知觉连接
,因此他们找到了他们的虚拟永恒。更多较为严谨的团体采用了中性的办法,用虚拟的状
态通讯及研究,但坚持用肉体社交、行房及庆祝。相关的例子像是一群开发了所有能在陶
色塔日恒星旁找到的天体的科技人员、在环绕极端炎热的蓝白太阳阙姆斯的欧特云内成立
的万物共享(Shared Mind Shared Responsibilities Shared Land, Shamsharshal)王国
、以及许多留在最原本的世界.托尔的居民,他们认为自己应该要负起一部分管理该星球
的责任。
However, many groups were opposed to the idea of virtualization, and for a
number of reasons worked either casually or aggressively to discourage the
spread of so-called "Freeminds" or "Virtuals" among their citizens. Some,
like the Mocholi conservatives that preserved the ruins of Kyros in atonement
for the actions of the Endless there, were dedicated to acts that required
physical effort and the use of a body. Groups like this might have had
reasons based on ethical principles, mistrust of new technology, fears for
individual or group security, or simply a preference for the physical world.
In any case, they were adamantly opposed to the idea of moving to a virtual
existence. There were also fringe groups like the Sensualists of the
All-is-Permissible-Evil-Exists-Only-Where-It-Is-Invited alternative lifestyle
habitat who simply found the body too much fun to give up.
然而,无论是偶一为之或强烈反对,许多团体都用各种大量的理由反对在人民之间称之为
「心灵解放」或「虚化」的虚拟化的想法。包括Mocholi在内,一些负责保护凯洛斯废墟
的保守派,全心投入於需要用到肉体的行为。像这种团体的理由可能像是伦理原则、对新
科技的不信任、对个人或团体安全的疑虑、或仅仅因为偏爱有形的世界。无论如何,他们
都坚决反对虚拟化的想法。也有些像是「爽就好(译注:这翻译没问题吗……)」的享乐
主义者的边缘团体,他们过着非主流的生活方式,因为他们发现肉体实在有太多乐趣而无
法放弃。
Regardless of their various reasons, the advent of virtualization accelerated
the trend to dissociation and disagreement which had already become a
challenge for the larger society.
无论是什麽样的理由,虚拟化的进展加速了内哄与分裂与的趋势,而这对於这个越来越庞
大的社会已经成为了一个挑战。
Schisms in the society developed between the "Virtuals", who sought
electronic immortality, and the "Concretes", who viewed that idea as
undesirable or repugnant. For several decades both sides sought to prove the
superiority of their ideals, while problems grew over decisions of how and
where to invest and develop science. While one side saw no need to invest in
biology research and terraforming as the body was no longer necessary, the
other clearly sought further breakthroughs in these areas. Splits of
budgeting became movements of secession, and the movements of secession
eventually broke into open conflict with each other.
社会分裂成两派:追求电子式不朽的「虚拟」,及不追求或厌恶这个想法的「实体」。长
达数十年之间,两派一直试着证明他们理想的优越性,而在他们决定要在哪里及如何发现
及发展科学时,问题随之产生。当某边认为没必要继续研究生物研究及外星环境优化,因
为肉体已经被抛弃的他们不需要这些科技,另一边却在这些领域寻求突破点。预算编列的
分歧演变为分离行动,分离行动最後成为双方公开冲突的爆发点。
The Dust Wars 星尘战争
When conflict broke out, both sides took advantage of the mechanical and
computational capabilities of Dust to try to destroy the other. The Virtuals
created hybrid living machines to hunt and destroy Concretes, who in turn
created viruses and deathware to eradicate the consciences of the Virtuals.
冲突爆发时,双方都依赖星尘带来的机械及电脑能力以试着摧毁对方。虚拟派创造了混种
生物机械以猎杀并摧毁实体派,实体派则创造病毒以消灭虚拟派的知觉。
The "Concretes" tried to purge databases of virtual consciences, and the
Virtuals did what they could to make existing space installations
uninhabitable. Running, chasing, escaping, fleeing, the Dust Wars caused a
second major diaspora of the Endless, leaving them spread ever more distantly
from each other and encouraging them to continue moving onward.
实体派试着把存有虚拟派之觉得资料库格式化,而虚拟派用尽一切手段使的存放这些机器
的地方变得无法居住。逃跑、追杀、脱离、逃亡,星尘战争造成了永恒族的第二次大移民
,使他们分布的距离彼此更远,并迫使他们持续向前进。
In time, on a system-by-system and cluster-by-cluster basis, one or the other
groups of Endless gained the upper hand and eradicated the other. It was most
difficult for the reasonable ones who were caught in the middle; viewed as
enemy by both Virtuals and Concretes they fared poorly. Only on the homeworld
of Tor did the two groups find a balance, and even there they devolved into
mutually suspicious and hostile fortified city-states.
那时,人或团体间的冲突是以星系和星群规模为准,占上风的一方会把另一方完全消灭。
被卷入其中的理性份子们处境最艰难,他们不想成为实体派或虚拟派其中一方,却又被双
方同时视为敌人。双方只有在家园.托尔地区才能找到平衡点,而就算在此,他们也是互
相猜疑,城市之间也用敌意武装起自己。
Some of the major warfare tactics of the Dust Wars were:
在星尘战争间,有些主要的战术:
Isolation - Virtuals kill the satellite system in order to isolate a planet,
then drop the dead satellites on to the major industrial centers of a colony.
The Concretes are forced to rebuild their civilization from Renaissance-level
technology.
孤立─虚拟派为了孤立一个行星而摧毁了所有的卫星,之後把被破坏的卫星扔到殖民地上
的主要工业中心上。实体派被逼的要从文艺复兴等级的科技开始重建他们的文明。
EMPicide - Concretes detonate an EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) device near a
Virtual habitat in deep space. The Virtuals are instantly wiped out, but the
equipment is generally salvageable.
EMP攻击─实体派在外太空,靠近虚拟派居住地的地方引爆电磁脉冲(electro-magnetic
pulse , EMP)装置。受到冲击的虚拟派立刻会被清除掉,但装置仍能拿回来修理再使用。
To Breathe Dust - The Virtuals drop Dust into the air handling system of an
orbital, giving it orders to pierce holes and disable microchips. The
Concretes slowly choke to death.
星尘之息─虚拟派把星尘放到星球轨道的空气调节系统中,并命令它们钻动并摧毁微晶片
,实体派只能缓慢的窒息至死。
Grounded - Concretes bring all the electrical systems of a planet inhabited
by Virtuals to ground, i.e. zero charge, destroying the Virtuals.
接地─实体派把一颗行星上所有虚拟派居住的电子系统都带到贴地,也就是说造成零电位
差,藉此摧毁虚拟派(译注:这什麽神发想……)。
Fratricide - Networked Dust is released in a Concrete armada, infecting the
C3 (command, control, communication) systems. The ships end up turning their
guns against each other.
自相残杀─把网路化的星尘释放到实体派的舰队并感染其C3(命令、控制、通讯)系统。
船只最後会把枪炮转向自己人。
The Splintering 残屑
Following the internecine Dust Wars, much of the fabric of Endless
civilization was either destroyed, cut off into non-communicating islands, or
scattered too thinly across the stars to re-form a critical mass and move
ahead as a single entity. As communication lapsed the different elements that
once made up the society grew apart, eventually to the point of radically
different evolutions.
随着毁灭性的星尘战争而来,大部分永恒族文明不是被摧毁、被切断成为无法对外联系的
孤岛,就是由於在群星之间散布的太细碎而无法重新组成足以再度振作的群体。由於通讯
的失误,曾经组成社会的不同成分各自分散,最终走向完全不同的演化之路。
The Dust encountered in the game comes from the remnants of these
civilizations.
游戏中玩家遇到的星尘,主要都是来自於这些文明的残迹。
Both the Concrete and the Virtual elements of the civilization further
subdivided themselves depending on where they found themselves in the galaxy,
what their leadership wanted, and what resources were on hand. A sample of
some of the splinters that broke off and sought their own destinies is
included below.
无论是实体派还是虚拟派,又进一步把他们自己细分为他们从银河何处来、他们的领导者
的目标、和手上有什麽资源。一些「残屑」断绝联系并寻求自己的未来,其中一个范例包
含如下。
It should be emphasized that elements of many of these groups could often be
found living together, or tendencies to more than one of these preferences
could be found within any group of either Concretes or Virtuals. In some
cases, however, groups sought to isolate and "purify" themselves, taking over
terrain or habitat space in order to live on their own.
必须强调的是,不论是实体派或虚拟派,其成员常常被发现彼此生活在一起,又或者倾向
不仅止於此的行为。然而在某些案例里,部分团体独自生存下来,并夺取领土或栖息地,
以便於与世隔绝并净化团体。
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请大家务必批评指正我的翻译,尤其是文本中的红字注明
感谢>"<
另外,请问板友知道还有哪里适合发表这种未完成的翻译作品吗?
我希望能发布到更多的地方,这样才能有更多人一起帮忙看并修正这些翻译
感谢
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到那时,在壁炉边,当孙子坐在某位老人的膝盖上,问道:「爷爷,你在亡灵天灾入侵的
时候干什麽呢?」 而他不用尴尬地干咳一声,把孙子移到另一个膝盖上,吞吞吐吐地说
:「啊……爷爷我当时在清净农场挖牛粪。」与此相反,他可以直盯着他的眼睛理直气壮
地说:
「孙子,爷爷我当年在太阳花学运和那个狗娘养的三百暴民并肩作战!」
~《太阳花》 第一章第二节
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1F:推 ttnkuo:我记得游侠网好像有论谭可以去讨论的 06/08 07:00
2F:→ o07608:游侠网吗?感谢 06/08 14:58
3F:推 wangquanchi:是记者耶~你改玩这个了喔 06/08 15:20
会长好久不见~
其实我没玩过这款游戏,没时间玩这种大型游戏......(所以WOW也三百年没上了)
但是对这游戏很有兴趣,所以想说玩不到就来搞翻译,画饼充饥这样
不过结果当然是越充越饥......
※ 编辑: o07608 (114.40.14.210), 06/08/2014 15:35:04
4F:→ o07608:呃......游侠网要怎麽用= =找不到Endless Space专属论坛 06/08 19:08
5F:推 wangquanchi:你有玩文明5ㄇ,我当初可是沉迷了超九 06/08 21:14
6F:→ o07608:没耶,我在等不知道会不会有的完整版大特价 06/08 21:26
※ 编辑: o07608 (114.40.14.210), 06/09/2014 21:20:05