作者atonLS (闷)
看板Siam-Star
标题[翻译]奥和莙心得 感谢ccyin
时间Thu Feb 26 15:03:48 2009
感谢
正妹佳颖
居然真的把这篇翻成英文耶orz
只好贴上来向她致敬!!
她根本就是个
气质正妹嘛
>////<
不过我本来也是个
知识青年
所以内容英翻中也真刚好 (摊手
果然比我在奇摩翻译然後自己校对流畅的好多喔 <--废话
里面有些中文就不顺的地方连佳颖也翻不出来 XD
有种被这中文逼死的FU,真是辛苦译者了 orz
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There’re plenty emotions in ”The Love of Siam” , and the branches of
the story are also interlaced in a complicated way, but if we look at the
character of ”Aow” and “June” and compare with each other, it seemed to
be another point of view.
爱在暹逻要传达的感情太丰富,剧情的旁枝侧节也盘根错结,若以经记人奥和莙互相
比较,好像又是另一个观点。
Just like what ben wrote before, Aow plays a character about leading Mew
, narrating his mentality, giving him the guidance about his songs.
According to the meaning of the song, we could state that he exports the Mew’
s viewpoint of love. It appears that he mirrors the affections in Mew’s
songs and what Mew says in the movie each scene when Aow shows up,
就像ben曾经写过,奥的角色很像在帮谬领航,阐述谬的心理状态,并引导他歌曲的
方向,而根据歌曲的传达意义,也可说是引导谬的感情观,奥每次出现的片段,都似乎就
是反应谬写的歌的情感,对映出他的对白和歌曲的情绪。
If we place Aow as a story teller beyond the movie, June’s character is
more powerful compared with Aow for her deep and direct involvement in the
movie, for jumping impatiently into the story and twisting it in 180 degrees
when it comes to the important scene. Therefore, it comes out her own story
of June’ s character while she also navigates the story.
而若说奥的角色像个戏外的说书人,莙的角色反而更像奥的加强版,直接跳入故事情
节中一起扭动,好像说书人讲到重要情节时按捺不住,恨不得自己进入故事扭转整个情节
,因此莙这个媒介除了牵引着故事的走向之外,也有了关於自己的戏码。
Of course it doesn’t make sense if we consider June as a story teller.
After all, her story is also part of the relationship in the family. But if
we take close look at her, her appearance and leaving actually affect those
people around her more than on herself, so her character quite fits the
meaning of catalyst.
当然将莙定位成说书人有点过於牵强,毕竟她的故事也可算亲情情节的脉络之一,但
是若仔细看待,其实她进入再出走,对四周的影响远大於自己的改变,因此也满符合触媒
的定义。
Aow’s character reflects the hidden part of Mew’s heart, we can see it
from the beginning of “without love in Mew’s song” to “excellent of the
new song what Mew had written”. Even more, his character also reflects Mew’
s anger to himself metaphorically when Aow knew that Mew left the band,
because Mew never expresses those feeling from the beginning to the end in
the movie.
And it can be proved what Mew’s grandma said in the movie “Delivering the
feeling to someone in music”, we can consider that Aow is a direct
connection to Mew’s music, so we can realize that when MD puts Aow’s
character in the movie, a story teller, in a logical and creative way.
奥的角色反映出谬没有演出的内心部分,从最初「没有爱(情)」,以至「太好了」,
甚至对没有主唱的愤怒都展现出谬对自己的生气,因为谬始终没有把这些 情绪表达出来
;其实这边也有对证阿嬷说的「用音乐传达自己的情感给某个人」,奥是最直接接到谬的
音乐的人,因此胖导在安排这个说书人时,如此设定合乎逻辑 又充满巧思。
By observing the meaning of Aow to Mew, we can see that June is related to
Tong.
奥对於谬,而莙的说书对象是栋。
Comparing the first scene that Aow and Mew appear and Aow plays a mentor
and reflects the inner side of Mew, June’s character is an echo to Tong
honestly. For example, when Tong tried to buy some cigarettes, June bought it
for Tong very naturally. Being a High-school student's, Tong needs the mother
to send and pick up after school, June feels is astonished.
This section of plays have proven the Tong’s weakness, also to make the
impression that “Tong has become a mature man” after Tong saying “It is
OK, I‘ll go home by myself".
相较於奥与谬的初次见面,奥用「指导」的方式展现谬的内心,莙则是毫无破坏性的
对应着栋,譬如栋要装大人学抽菸,莙就顺手揭过这个要求;却又对栋都高中了还要母亲
接送感到讶异,这边也呈现了栋的不成熟,也藉机为後续「今天不用,我会自己回家」的
对白留下了「原来栋长大了」的印象。
In the end, June made Tong’s family realize the value of the affections
between them by the game, and it was also decorated by Tong, and Tong became
more matured that time.
而最终莙再藉由「寻宝游戏」让栋一家明白亲情为何,这时也是藉由栋着手布置,而
此时的栋已经自我成长了。
We can see that the influences of Aow to Mew or June to Tong are all
revealed after the beginning, In the mean time, then, Tong and Mew interact
with each other or with other persons, finally they develops the most
complete disposition. Aow and June plays a outsider during the movie, when
Tong grew up by himself from the hesitation, Aow and June showed up in the
movie again, for Aow was arranging the performance in the backstage, and June
handed the letter to Tong in the beverage shop. Afterward, they just let it
go and stopped since then
其实「奥-->谬」以及「莙-->栋」的影响,都是起头之後, m中间变全部是栋谬二人
自己或和其他人的交互作用,性格才进一步的发展完全, 此间奥和莙都坐壁上而观之,
而当没有爱谬的出现爱情并伴随着後续的失落、当旁徨的栋自我成长之後,奥和莙再次出
现,奥最末在後台安排谬的演唱,莙在饮料店 把信封给栋,然後两人从此就此放手对栋
谬的影响。
Finally, Aow finished the story and left, mand June also finished her
story to Tong and left for her own story.
最终,奥的故事说完,自己离场;莙对栋的故事说完,也离场继续发展自己的性格。
Then, those left behind is some more complex story and emotions for the
audience with tears.
留下更加错综的剧情和情感给观众大哭。
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1F:推 madonhwa:大推正妹佳颖!!又正、英文又好(又年轻>///<) 02/26 15:10
2F:推 madonhwa:这世界真是太不公平了...... 02/26 15:10
3F:→ atonLS:ma大推得第一句推文让我都不知道该如何安慰 02/26 15:11
4F:→ atonLS:不会阿,ma大也是....... (词穷 <--被殴 02/26 15:12
5F:推 madonhwa:然後这篇胖导看了一定会大感动!at从故事中的旁观视角 02/26 15:12
6F:推 madonhwa:来镜照主角的情感发展,是较为特殊的评论, 02/26 15:15
7F:推 madonhwa:只能说at果然是边缘人的发声者啊!(这是褒 02/26 15:15
8F:推 madonhwa:我认真留言,结果被作者插,还词穷,哭哭 02/26 15:18
9F:推 geng1113:这是边缘人在吵架吗 我无法参与 02/26 15:22
10F:→ atonLS:好啦你是红牌啦 耿耿迷兜盟快来晕眩一下 02/26 15:29
11F:推 astaroth710:推推 真的是人正 英文又好 02/26 15:53
12F:推 madonhwa:谢谢 02/26 16:00
13F:推 forlornevan:耿耿推文了!!!! (晕眩 是这样嘛 02/26 16:02
14F:推 AaliyahTsai:我要代替胖导哭哭了 02/26 16:31
15F:→ AaliyahTsai:佳颖妹妹跟胖导一样年轻又有才华 而且外貌大胜 5555 02/26 16:32
16F:→ bobozhung:at我也要贴佳颖帮忙翻译的了~话说我还很龟毛又改了些 02/26 17:41
17F:→ bobozhung:我觉得佳颖大概青筋都要浮出来了 哈哈 02/26 17:42
18F:→ atonLS:佳颖也有翻你的一篇啊??哪篇哪篇??快贴快贴 02/26 18:12
19F:推 liying46:大推正妹佳颖~~~at这篇也真的写的很好 02/26 18:42
20F:推 bobozhung:我始终也只有一篇啊 哈哈哈 02/26 18:43
21F:推 ccyin:哎呀.....///////////// 02/26 22:19
22F:→ bobozhung:佳颖女神出现了!!! 02/26 22:20
23F:→ shironokaze:正妹佳颖好厉害~ 02/26 22:23
24F:→ shironokaze:at写的很好耶 观察真入微 02/26 22:26
25F:→ atonLS:我是正常人阿 (我讲不出我内心小羊之类恶烂的话(没有针对bo 02/26 23:35
26F:→ shironokaze:at越描越黑的感觉 02/26 23:38
27F:推 wapnill: 或是内心是草泥马之类的话(谁啊 02/26 23:39
28F:→ atonLS:我一向都走知性的惨绿少年路线好吗 (然後滑到 02/26 23:39
29F:推 bobozhung:好啦我现在内心是草泥马(也太配合了吧= = 02/26 23:40
30F:推 wapnill:bobo好乖(摸头)(结果只摸得到眉毛?) 02/26 23:44
31F:推 bobozhung:其实我是想说这样被招唤出来的时候可以不要叫波波 02/26 23:46
32F:→ wapnill:可以直接骂脏话? 02/26 23:47
33F:推 domogucci:耿耿讲话好酷喔(晕眩~~~~~<--有没有很配合 02/27 00:52
34F:推 bobozhung:无聊(冷淡 02/27 00:59
35F:推 domogucci:BB君 耿耿不会打冷淡了啦(拍拍 02/27 01:09