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Philadelphia 76ers: 2012-13 roster 2012-13霍家拳门阵容分析与预测:费城七六人队 By John Hollinger | ESPN.com Originally Published: September 20, 2012 http://tinyurl.com/9t6mjnp ★ RESERVES / 替补轮换球员  ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ THADDEUS YOUNG, F Scouting report + Left-handed layup machine with speed in transition and nose for rim. 左手无耻上篮狂人,且在快攻中拥有风一般的速度,另外他跳起来的时 候鼻子跟篮框一样高。 + Left dominant but improved right hand. Likes to attack bigs on drives from wing. 虽然是个左手球员,但是他的右手有长足的进步。习惯在两翼面框对抗 禁区球员。 + Very undersized for 4. Great pick-and-roll defender but doesn't rebound. 无论如何,以四号来说他有绝对的身高劣势。他有非常出色的档拆防守 能力,但是篮板差强人意。 Analysis Young continues to be extremely effective within his peculiar role, and with the league trending toward smaller lineups he's only becoming more useful. While it still may be a stretch to start him full-time at the 4, at 6-8, 220, he's been such an effective two-way player that they may need to consider it. Thad持续在七六人赋予他的特殊任务中展现他的超高绩效,尤其当现在 的联盟吹起一股小阵容风的时候,他的风格就变得更加实用。虽然他拥 有能够站先发大前锋的能力与表现,但是就使用上,作为一个三四兼修 的球员对他来说还是比较顺手的。 Young is a great pick-and-roll defender with good hands and takes lots of charges, which offsets his lack of size and physicality against bigger 4s. His bigger shortcoming, actually, is that he doesn't rebound, ranking just 65th out of 70 power forwards and 69th on the defensive glass. Thad对抗档拆时,绩效十分可怕:他能够在Show Hard的时候用他的大 手对抗外围的後卫,也能够在内缩的时候制造对手的进攻犯规或抄截, 这都让他在对抗比他还要硕大的四号球员时拥有特殊的优势。他作为PF 唯一的缺点是他的篮板绩效不佳,在所有的69个大前锋当中,他的防守 篮板率是倒数第五名。 However, offensively he's a huge boost because he gets layups without turnovers. Young shot 68.7 percent at the rim and got four such attempts per game; overall he shot 50.7 percent and had the fourth-lowest turnover ratio at his position. He draws disappointingly few fouls (54th at his position in free throw rate) and never makes 3s, but overall was a major catalyst. The jumper, however, is still a work in progress; Young hit 36.6 percent from beyond ten feet and made one 3-pointer all season. 但是无论如何,他在进攻端对七六人有着绝佳的加成效果,能够切进去 上篮且避免失误。他在篮框周遭有着68.7%的惊人命中率,而且一场比 赛当中他平均能够杀到那个范围四次,这只比Drew少一次。另外他整体 命中率高达50.7%,另外在大前锋的位置上,他的失误率(To%)是第四低。 不过他制造的犯规不够多,在所有大前锋当中他的罚球率(FTA/FGA)排 第54,另外还缺乏三分的射程与准星,但总而言之放他上场总是令对手 头大而非让自己人头大。他的中距离投篮到目前为止仍在加强中,他在 10尺之外的命中率是36.6%,另外整季他只丢进一个三分球。  ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ LAVOY ALLEN, PF Scouting report + Long, wiry-strong big man with good mid-range jumper. Good post defender. 具有高度,且相钢板一样强悍的长人;但是跟楼上不一样的是他拥有不 可思议的中距离手感。另外还具备低位防守能力。 + Decent mobility on defense. Not a great rebounder or shot blocker. 他在防守上的机动性令人惊艳,但在篮板保护或弱边补防上无法称得上 顶尖二字。 +Good passer but not a creator. Never draws fouls. Can finish at rim. 他有良好的传球意识,但不负责帮队友创造机会。他也很少上罚球线, 但在蓝底下有非常不错的得分技巧。 Analysis The second-to-last pick in the 2011 draft proved a great value for the Sixers, becoming a rotation player and their most effective big man in the conference semis against Boston. Defense will be his calling card -- he has the strength to push opponents out on the post and the length to challenge shots. 这个在二轮尾巴的选秀在去年选秀当中带给七六人超乎想像的价值,他 成为了一个固定的轮替球员,且是七六人阵中(尤其在ECSF对抗绿军时) 效率较为出色的长人。「防守」是他名片上神圣而不可或缺的自我介绍, 他在把人推出禁区这个领域非常出色,另外他的身高还能支撑他挑战对 手每一次的投篮。 Allen's motor also ran hotter than many suspected out of college, as he had a solid rebound rate and competed, albeit with a high foul rate. For the season the Sixers gave up 6.6 points per 100 possessions less with him on the court, although his other data wasn't as strong. 天普王的实力与潜力也超出当初大学时期球探们对他的想像,他有着很 不错的篮板率与对抗能力,即便他仍需节制自己的犯规,但仍然有非常 出色的表现。即便数据上看不出他的出色,但是当他在场上时,七六人 每一百波进攻可以省下6.6分的失分。 Offensively Allen just shoots midrange jumpers. He took three-quarters of his shots away from the rim and earned a laughable 14 free throw attempts the entire season, but he shot well from everywhere -- 63.8 percent inside ten feet, 40.9 percent from outside. The problem, obviously, is the proportion of each, which led to one of the lower true shooting percentages at his position. But Allen is a good high-post passer and a passable offensive player overall; combined with his defense, that makes him a viable rotation player at either frontcourt slot. 至於进攻端,天普王比较可靠的工具大概就只有中距离跳投了。他有四 分之三的出手都在禁区外,且因为他整季只要到了14个罚球而常被拿来 取笑;但是他球场的所有地方都能出手,在十尺内的命中率高达63.8%, 在十尺之外则是40.9%。不过问题在於天普王的进攻模式让他在真实命 中率(TS%)在大前锋位置上敬陪末座。但是Allen在高位也是非常不错的 传球者,质与量上都可称优秀。他可被接受的进攻绩效配上他惊人的防 守能力,让他成为在前场两个位置上都能成为一个可靠的轮换球员。  ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ DORELL WRIGHT, SF Scouting report + Long forward who can catch-and-shoot jump shots. Excellent elevation on J. 在小前锋位置上一柱擎天,更夸张的是他能够catch 'n shoot。他的跳 投出手点够高,能够为他避免受到封阻或干扰。 + Very poor ball handler. Can't get to rim on his own. Runs floor well. 相较於未持球的进攻绩效,他的持球进攻能力有等於没有。无法替自己 创造进攻机会甚至杀入篮下,但是他无球跑动非常的积极。 + Length an asset on defense but effort inconsistent. Good rebounder. 他的身高带给他防守上的优势,但是绩效不太稳定。另外在篮板的判断 与保护上相当出色。 Analysis For a guy who was summarily dismissed from the Warriors' plans and given away over the summer, Wright has put together some awfully solid numbers. Last season he had a player efficiency rating of exactly 15.07 for a second straight season, shooting 36.0 percent on 3s and a stellar 68.4 percent at the rim. He missed nearly everything in between (31.6 percent between rim and 3-point line) and rarely draws fouls, but since more than half his shots were 3s he finished eighth at his position in secondary percentage. 即便Wright缴出不显眼但是仍称稳定的绩效,但是他仍然被勇士制服组 排除在未来计画中。去年他的PER是15.07,不过他已经是连续两季恰好 压在联盟PER的平均值上;另外他在三分线外有着36.0%的命中率,在蓝 底有着68.4%,但是在这两个区域中间的,他的火力基本上就隐形了, 外加他基本上赚不了犯规;但是虽然他有一半以上的出手都在三分线外, 但是他的命中率在小前锋当中有着排名第八的二次进攻命中率。 Wright is a lousy ballhandler with a high, erratic dribble, but he knows it and rarely bounces it in traffic -- he had the fifth-lowest turnover ratio at his position as a result. He also ranked in the top third of small forwards in rebound rate. 他糟糕的运球姿势跟过高的重心让他成为一个糟糕的持球者,但是他深 刻了解他的缺陷且从来不尝试自己作不到的事情,这从他在同位置中第 五低的失误率(To%)可以看出。另外在篮板的保护上也非常惊人,在所 有小前锋当中他的篮板率是第三高。 Wright was miscast as the Warriors' perimeter stopper -- it sure as heck wasn't gonna be Monta Ellis -- and as a result took some lumps at the defensive end. Opposing small forwards had a 17.9 PER against him, according to 82games.com, and Golden State gave up 3.6 points per 100 possessions with him on the court. Subjectively, I don't think he's bad, but there's no question Golden State's defense improved with Brandon Rush or Richard Jefferson on the court in his place. Wright没有像勇士预期中成为一个外围防守的锁钥,而他又不像Monta 这麽会进攻,因此他犯错总是会被夸大,最终成为交易的筹码。他的 对手有着17.9的PER,而他在场时勇士一百波进攻会多丢3.6分。但是 我不认为他有这麽差,但是我想在他离开後Brandon Rush跟Richard Jefferson将会对他们的防守有所帮助。  ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ NICK YOUNG, SG Scouting report + Scoring guard who excels in catch-and-shoot. Can get jumper off over anyone. Catch and shoot的专家,在场上所有地方都能拿了就射。 + Tall for a 2 and decent athlete, but an underachieving defender. Bad rebounder. 他在二号位也拥有绝对的高度优势,但是在防守上完全浪费了他在此方 面的先天优秀条件,甚至还不会抓篮板。 + Has weak handle and rarely takes more than one dribble. Passes even less often. 他持球进攻不太行,下球基本不超过一下就收,彷佛地板很烫。另外还 不太传球。 Analysis You can't score an emptier 20 than this guy. A neat summary of the Nick Young Experience is that he averaged better than a point every two minutes and still finished with a player efficiency rating well below the league average. Let's just say the non-scoring categories are a bit wanting. Out of 67 small forwards, Young was 66th in assist ratio, 66th in rebound rate, and 61st in pure point rating. Young's assist ratio was the worst of any player with a usage rate over 15. 一样是得二十分,你没办法找到比他更没有贡献的球员了。对於他的评 价总是整齐划一:他两分钟就能得到一分,但是他的PER却低於联盟平 均。打开天窗说亮话,除了得分他样样不能。在全数共67位小前锋当中, 他的助攻率是第66位、篮板率是第66位、PPR是第61位。更糟糕的是, 在进攻依赖指数(Usage%)超过15的所有球员当中,他绝对是最吝於传球 的那一个。 Young doesn't get to the basket much, but he definitely can stroke it. He made 36.5 percent of his 3s and 44.6 percent of his 2s beyond 16 feet. However, he has a poor short-to-midrange game (26.3%) and averaged less than a field goal per game at the rim. As a result, his true shooting percentage was ordinary. 他没有办法切到篮下,但是他光射就能射进去。他有36.5%的三分命中率, 而在16尺外他的命中率是惊人的44.6%。但是他接近篮框的命中率是悲惨 的26.3%,另外每场在蓝底命中的次数不到一次。所以计算真实命中率(TS%) 对这家伙来说没有什麽意义,因为就跟他原本的命中率差不多。 Defensively, Young has some ability, but his focus comes and goes and some of the bigger 3s can overpower him. He wasn't particularly bad, but his metrics were slightly negative across the board. Additionally, his inability to rebound remains baffling considering his leaping ability. Young had a worse rebound rate than Luke Ridnour, Derek Fisher, Chris Duhon and Nate Robinson, among others, which is just embarrassing. 他有一些防守的技巧,但是他在防守端完全不具任何注意力,只要比他 高能射三分就能吃掉他。他当然没有这麽差,但是你在数据表上很难找 着能够帮他护航的数字;另外他在抓篮板上的无能完全愧对了他的身高 与优秀的弹跳能力,他的篮板率甚至比Ridnour/Fisher/Duhon/Nate 来得还差,除了丢脸我真的不知道该说什麽。  ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ KWAME BROWN, C Scouting report + Injury-prone big man with terrible hands and poor instincts at both ends. 一个手部动作不灵活且在攻守两端都不杰出的中锋,外加红十字属性。 + Good pick-and-roll defender but subpar shot-blocker. Good rebounder. 他对档拆的防守非常出色,但是补防的能力却比平均还差;不过他至少 很会抓篮板。 + Can make short turnarounds in post. Awful foul shooter. Poor ballhandler. 他可以在篮框附近做出很不错的转身,但是前提要能抓稳球。另外他罚 球真的很差。 Analysis Brown outdid even his own recent standards of injury-proneness by exiting after just nine games last season. In the past six seasons the most he's played in a season is 66 games, and he's averaged just 43. This adds another baffling layer to Philly's zest for acquiring him: Even if you think he's good, he's not going to be available for long. 即便他原本就很会受伤,但是Kwame超越Kwame,去年他因为胸肌撕裂伤, 九场比赛他就挂免战牌了。过去六个球季他平均出勤场次是43场,最多 不过66场。这对於七六人而言是另外一层风险,也更让我们疑惑为什麽 七六人对他这麽友爱,就算你认为他绩效不差,那他也没有办法持续性 的贡献他的能耐。 But he's not good, either. At best he's a solid backup who is neutral defensively and a major drag offensively, and that's looking through rose-colored glasses. His best metric is his solid rebound rate, and his pick-and-roll defense is helpful. But he's a bad weakside defender and doesn't block shots, offsetting those plusses. 更糟糕的是他并没有这麽好。当然他的优点很明确,用紫罗兰色的眼镜 来看:他是个很不错的防守型型替补,但是总是被他的进攻拖累。他在 数据上唯一正面的功能是他的篮板率相当出色,而且他面对档拆的时候 毫不含糊。但是他的弱边补防与敲火锅的能力非常差,这就完全抵销他 绩效上美好的那个部份了。 Offensively, he's a bad foul shooter, bad outside shooter, and struggles to score in the post or catch in the paint. He draws a lot of fouls and gets second shots, but otherwise he mostly takes shots that opponents happily conceded and clogs up the paint, and he doesn't always play hard. 进攻端故事很简单,他不会罚球、不会外射、不会在低位得分、没办法 妥当的在深位接到球。虽然他还是要到很多犯规,或者拿到很多进攻篮 板,但是他常常在他不擅长的地方进行进攻,或者塞满禁区里面的空间, 迫害己方的进攻端,使对手开开心心扬长而去。另外他还有驱动力量的 问题,没有办法持续性的努力坚持到底,满满都是问题。  ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ARNETT MOULTRIE, PF Scouting report + Long, quick big man who can jump. Slender build. Can hit mid-range jumper. 他很高。但是以他的高度,他超快,又能投篮。身形修长但对抗稍弱, 能够在中长距离出手。 + Must improve defense and focus. Poor ballhandler. Very good rebounder. 改善防守端的能力以及专注力是他的首要课题。持球进攻不佳,但是篮 板抓得不错。 Analysis Moultrie is a good athlete who can shoot, and those skills could make him a productive role player in the pros. He's a bit of a tweener between 4 and 5, with a limited handle but lacking great strength, but if he can knock down midrange jumps shots he may be able to play fairly regularly at the 4. 阿尼有着很不错得运动能力,而且他还能远射;这些能力让他有成为高 绩效角色球员的可能性。他是个四五兼修的摇摆人,身体控制不差,唯 独碰撞能力缺乏;但是只要他能在中长距离投进小皮球,把人拉出禁区 那问题就不大。未来他主要的位置应该是个四号。 My Draft Rater wasn't crazy about him because he had a very low rate of blocks for a big man, because his ballhandling numbers were pretty bad, and because Mississippi State played an unusually weak schedule for a major conference school. But he's clearly an NBA athlete, and if he keeps his sometimes-idling motor engaged as a pro, he should prove useful in much the way Lavoy Allen was a year ago. 我在评价选秀球员的时候并没有对他有过多的期待,因为他的阻攻率 (Blk%)非常悲惨;而且说难听点,密西西比州大虽然在一个强悍的分区, 但是他们排赛程的时候很明显有挑软柿子吃的嫌疑。但是有NBA等级的 体能条件,只要七六人能改变他的心态问题,要让他复制出天普王的成 功当然也是不无可能的。  ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ROYAL IVEY, PG Scouting report + Defensive-minded combo guard with good lateral movement and intensity. 防守为取向的康宝後卫,能守两个位置,横向移动优秀,对抗性佳。 + Decent midrange shooter but struggles from distance. 有着可被接受的中距离,但是距离一长就会出问题。 + Below-average ball handler and decision-maker. A stopgap-only point guard. 以一个控球後未来说,他的持球能力与决断能力在平均线以下。很显然 只是个一号位置暂时性解决方案。 Analysis Ivey played more than expected, getting into 34 games as the Thunder struggled to find a backup point guard solution, but gave a pretty miserable performance that ultimately relegated him back to bench duty. Partly this was because he was trying to be a 3-point specialist, taking 53 of his 73 shots from downtown, but he's not cut out for that -- only 18 of them went in. 去年因为Maynor受伤,他超出预期为雷霆打了34场球,但是他的绩效则 仍然一如预期的悲剧,最终让他失去了替补出场的时间。当然一部分原 因也是因为他脑充血,妄想作为一个射手,在他总共73次的出手中,其 中53次他选择了在三分线外出手;但很不幸的,这53次的尝试当中,他 只有18次破网。 (按: Hollinger你是多严苛阿,18/53好歹也有.340....) Alas, his other numbers were nothing to write home about either. He also appears to have lost some athleticism -- in 354 minutes he had one offensive rebound and zero blocked shots -- and his overall statistical production was heinously bad, yielding just a 4.52 PER. 更令人为他难过的是,他其他的数字看起来也没有贴出来的必要。他似 乎还失去了他部份的运动能力,在354分钟的亮相当中,他只收获了一 个进攻篮板,另外还有一个甜甜圈口味的火锅(0个);另外他的整体绩 效也痛样令人悲伤:PER 4.52Somehow, this performance lured Philadelphia into offering him a contract. While Ivey is a solid defender and a locker-room plus, he'll need to produce much better results to keep his foothold on a roster spot for long. 但是不知道为什麽,这样的表现还能让他赢得一张费城来的合约,可能 是暑假的十大不可思议之一。不过如果他希望能回归之前的防守强度, 且能够帮助教练掌控休息室的气氛,那他必需要下定决心让自己变得更 出色,不然很快你可能就会看到他消失在球员名单上了。  ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄ 我觉得Hollinger的问题还是在於对角色球员或年轻球员过度严苛, 过份追求Dynamic的结果就是翻完感觉这阵容毫无生气lol 总之当作参考,内容蛮有价值的,不过要切记看球员不是只有一个角度。 -- Definitely one of the all-time under-rated sixers. Glad to see him finally getting some league wide recognition the last few years (All-star, All-NBA defense, Team USA). As much as he's been bashed on these boards over the years I'm sure he'll be missed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV0ubjT6eDk
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1F:推 kira925:not a creator应该是没有创意 09/21 22:10
2F:→ kira925:.....再看又好像你是对的 09/21 22:10
3F:→ willyt:应该说创造力,但是用创造力三个字感觉又会跟创意混淆 09/21 22:22
4F:→ willyt:所以我琢磨很久才翻成"不负责帮队友创造机会"XD 09/21 22:23
5F:推 hanway:nick young rarely takes more than one dribble 是通常不 09/22 01:21
6F:→ hanway:会运超过一下。这篇蛮不错的! 09/22 01:22
7F:→ hanway:然後good elevation on J是说跳投出手点很高 09/22 01:22
fixed. ※ 编辑: willyt 来自: 111.243.224.108 (09/22 01:26)
8F:推 hanway:看完这篇,同学们应该对制造犯规的英文用法非常熟悉了! 09/22 01:28
9F:→ hanway:................doesn't draw fouls. 09/22 01:28
10F:→ willyt:很多人都不会制造犯规,Bynum除外XDDD 09/22 01:29
11F:→ hanway:(而且我还写错,是「不会」制造犯规)y 09/22 01:30







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