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http://ppt.cc/EPdn Potential Trade Scenarios and Packages for Derrick Williams Brace Hemmelgarn-USA TODAY Sports Derrick Williams certainly hasn't lived up to the expectations he generated before being selected by the Minnesota Timberwolves at No. 2 in the 2011 NBA draft, and now his team is attempting to unload him for an opportunity to move up in the 2013 version of the player-selection process. DW还没有打出当初灰狼用第二顺位选他进来的期望值,所以呢~他的球队也许会想要用他 来换取2013选秀的另一个机会。 According to the Pioneer Press' Charley Walters, the Wolves are looking to package D-Will and the No. 9 pick in the 2013 NBA draft for a chance to move up: 根据Pioneer Press的Charley Walters所说,灰狼想要打包九号签和DW来换取签位的升级 。 Looks like TWolves will try to deal Derrick Williams and No. 9 pick to move up in NBA draft. — Charley Walters (@Charley_Walters) June 3, 2013 Based on team needs, Minnesota is doing this for a better shot at landing a standout wing player in a notoriously weak draft. In another Walters report, head coach Flip Saunders confirmed the prevailing assumption that he is looking for height at the 2: 以球队的需求来看,灰狼这操作的目的在於取得一个拥有更好投射能力的侧翼球员。在 Walters 的另一篇报导里,总教练老桑(这应该是搞错了,老桑现在是总裁才对)承认了 他的确想在SG这位置补强些身材。 Because we're so small there...Outside of (6-6 Alexey) Shved, who can play the '2', our other guys who play '2' a lot, (J.J.) Barea and Luke (Ridnour), are 6-foot players and having to guard guys like (6-6) Kobe Bryant and those guys. 这位置我们简直弱到爆,除了勉强能顶上2号的六尺六Shved外,就剩六尺的JJB和Ridnour 而已了,而他们却得去防守六尺六的Kobe等等的大只後卫。 What you want is a '2' guard that has size and can shoot the ball. 所以灰狼的目标就很明确了:有身材、能投射的正常SG。 Based on those quotes, it's a safe bet that Minnesota is working toward drafting either Victor Oladipo, Ben McLemore or Shabazz Muhammad. That's the assumption we'll be working with when analyzing these potential trades. 从这几点来看,灰狼较安全的赌注应该是想办法选到Victor Oladipo、Ben McLemore或是 Shabazz Muhammad。下面的各种假设操作都是为了升级签位,想办法选到上面三个人。 As you read on, please note that the following trades are speculation. They have not been confirmed by any legitimate sources and, as such, have not officially entered into the rumor mill. 你下面读到的交易提案都是讲爽的。这些提案都没有被任何消息来源确认,连乳摸的乳都 还没挤出来。 Orlando Magic 奥兰多魔术队。 The Minnesota Timberwolves would be getting a high enough draft pick here that there’s no need to include a player in return. By giving them the second selection in the draft, the Orlando Magic essentially would be assuring that the Wolves will be able to land the player they most covet. 目标签位够高,所以灰狼应该没办法顺便捞个球员回来。如果拿到魔术的二号签,灰狼应 该可以选到遢他们最想要得人。 I believe Minnesota's main motivation in moving up is twofold: It wants to unload Williams while his value is still relatively high, and it wants to land either Victor Oladipo, Shabazz Muhammad or Ben McLemore, as discussed on the first slide. 我想灰狼的主要目标有两个:趁DW还相对有价值时快交易他,同时也能拿到那三人之一。 Seeing as the Cleveland Cavaliers are likely to either draft Nerlens Noel, select Otto Porter in a draft-day twist or trade away the pick, Minnnesota would have the pick of the litter in this scenario. 看起来骑士应该还是会选Nerlens Noel,或是在选秀日换签选Otto Porter。总之根据灰狼 的剧本,这操作应该管用。 But, would the Magic do it? 不过呢,魔术会餐一脚吗? They might be hesitant, but the ultimate summer goal for Orlando general manage Rob Hennigan should be to stockpile as much talent as possible. If that means adding one non-rookie and moving down a few spots, it would make sense because he's doubling the number of high-potential players that he brings on to the roster. 他们也许会犹豫,但魔术GM Rob Hennigan的目标应该是累积天份。如果一只签换成一个 较低顺位的签并且还多了一个非新秀的潜力球员,双倍天份双倍美味,也许他会有兴趣。 Parting with the No. 2 selection would be painful, but it would ultimately maximize the Magic's chances of landing a special player. Remember, Williams could still develop into one. 弄掉二号签会有点痛苦,但是这操作应该符合魔术的方针。要记得,DW还有很多潜力。 Washington Wizards Let's play the same game we're playing with every other potential trade in this article: Does this trade allow the Timberwolves to get what they need? And would the other team do it? 接下来都会依照这思路重复。这交易能不能让灰狼拿到想要的?交易对象他们呢? The answer to the first question is still a resounding yes. With three primary targets and only two teams selecting ahead of them in this situation, there's a 100 percent chance that either Ben McLemore, Shabazz Muhammad or Victor Oladipo would still be on the board. 前面的部份是『Yes』。有三个主要对象、手拿三号签,灰狼怎样都能选只SG回来。 In fact, it's likely that two of them will be, because Nerlens Noel won't be slipping down to No. 3. 事实上应该有两只可选,因为Nerlens Noel绝不会留到三号签。 We're all clear on that front. 话先说清楚。 The problem here is that there's no reason for the Washington Wizards to make this deal with Minnesota. They're an up-and-coming team with sights set on a playoff spot at the conclusion of the 2013-14 season, putting them in a drastically different situation than Rob Hennigan and the Orlando Magic. 巫师队没理由找我们交易。他们是向上中的球队,和魔术不一样。 Washington no longer needs to be randomly adding talent and hoping it works out because the pieces are already in place. Now the Wizards can target more specialized players and really start thinking about how everything fits together into one complete playoff puzzle. 巫师不太需要再累积天份了。现在巫师是得找出队中的核心球员,然後让每个人拼起来。 That's why they have a target firmly etched onto Otto Porter's back. Derrick Williams wouldn't fit with this team because the Wizards are looking for a small forward, and the former No. 2 pick is markedly worse at the 3 than the 4. According to 82games.com, Williams played better defense against opposing small forwards, but it wasn't enough to make up for his lack of offensive production. DW不合巫师需求,他们要得是SF。而DW在SF这位置并不出色,打得比PF糟多了。从82games 的资料来看,DW防守对方的SF是不错,但是进攻方面不行。 He posted a PER of 9.3 at small forward and 14.5 at power forward. Both are below the league average, but he was well below at the 3. DW在SF的PER值才9.3,而他在PF有14.5。虽然都比平均还低,但是SF的数据差多了。 Williams isn't the piece Washington is looking for. DW不是巫师想要的人。 Charlotte Bobcats 山猫队 Potential Trade: Derrick Williams and the No. 9 Pick for the No. 4 Pick Unlike the Washington Wizards, the Charlotte Bobcats find themselves in a situation similar to the one faced by the Orlando Magic. They just want to acquire talent. 和巫师队不一样,山猫目前的状况和魔术差不多、差不多烂。他们得累积天份。 Barring a ridiculous rash of injuries to all other Eastern Conference teams (yet somehow bypasses the Bobcats), Michael Jordan's organization isn't going to be competing for a playoff spot anytime soon. The team has a few intriguing pieces, but it's still squarely in the talent-collection portion of the rebuilding process. 就算东区很多球队遭受了伤病的打击,不过红衣光头23号的山猫队距离季後赛大概有三十 万光年这麽远。队里头没几个管用的球员,所以他们的重建得从累积天份开始。 Although the combined jump-shooting inconsistency of Byron Mullens and Derrick Williams would be infuriating—especially when coupled with Bismack Biyombo's glaring obliviousness on the offensive end—the acquisition of a former lottery pick who hasn't yet been given a true chance to shine would actually be a savvy move. 由於Byron Mullens和DW两人的跳投都不太稳定,搭在一起可能会是一场灾难—中锋还是 Biyombo,一个在进攻端跟隐形人差不多的家伙。这几年的乐透签根本没让他们有机会发 光发亮,基本上只是在玩省钱大作战而已。 Especially because this is a weak draft, moving down five spots wouldn't hurt the Bobcats all that much. 反正山猫的选秀已经烂到有剩,所以降低几个顺位也不痛不痒啦。 However, the concurrent jump up in the order would do wonders for the Minnesota Timberwolves, because it would give them the ability to draft one of their targets. 不过呢,这样的操作够让灰狼选到他们想选的球员。 The expected order of the first three picks is Nerlens Noel, Ben McLemore and Otto Porter—meaning that both Victor Oladipo and Shabazz Muhammad would be left on the board. 前三名的新秀大概是Nerlens Noel、Ben McLemore和Otto Porter,所以灰狼应该可以选 Victor Oladipo和Shabazz Muhammad。 Seeing as that's their motivation for this trade, it's hard to see why the Wolves would hesitate to pull the trigger. 看看交易换来的成果,灰狼的确找不到啥理由不扣下扳机。 Phoenix Suns 凤凰城太阳队 Potential Trade: Derrick Williams and the No. 9 Pick for the No. 5 Pick Once we get down to No. 5 overall, we're starting to push it on whether Ben McLemore, Victor Oladipo and Shabazz Muhammad would still be on the board. The UCLA product would be available, but the other two are more iffy. 如果拿到五号签,那就是从三个待选SG里挑还剩下来的。来自UCLA的新秀应该还会留下来 ,但是另外两个难说。 Quite frankly, Muhammad should be available at No. 9, where the Minnesota Timberwolves are originally picking, which leads me to believe that the other two wings would be the primary targets in these potential trades. 其实如果运气好的话,灰狼手上的九号签室友可能捡到Muhammad。所以我相信灰狼真正的 目标是其他两人。 McLemore—barring an unforeseen draft-day plummet—would be long gone by the time David Stern is strolling to the podium for the fifth time, but No. 5 is right where I expect Oladipo to go. The Charlotte Bobcats don't have a need for his skill set, so expect them to take either, Alex Len, C.J. McCollum, Anthony Bennett or Trey Burke and, if somehow available, Nerlens Noel, McLemore and Otto Porter before Oladipo. McLemore应该早早会被挑走,但是我预测Oladipo大概就是会落在五号签这位置。山猫不想 要他,应该会挑其他人。大概是 Alex Len、C.J. McCollum、Anthony Bennett、 Trey Burke。而如果Nerlens Noel、McLemore、Otto Porter还在,何乐而不捡呢? Minnesota should be able to draft Indiana's defensive ace if a move to No. 5 is in the cards, but the Wolves can't fall in any lower than that. 五号签可以让灰狼挑到Oladipo,但是别想他会跌下来给我们捡走。 While this looks good for Flip Saunders and the Minnesota brass, I don't think the Phoenix Suns will make a move. What would be their motivation to do so? 看看老桑手上的牌,我想太阳队可能不太会感兴趣。 The Suns could use Oladipo's athleticism and three-point stroke at the 2, and there's a drop-off among the prospects expected to go after the fifth pick— at least at the positions they're interested in. 太阳自己选了Oladipo的话也可以填上SG这位置,这麽刚好干麽再自找麻烦。 Derrick Williams also doesn't fit in too well with the Suns, as they already have the Morris twins, players who are naturals at the 4 and can slide over to small forward when necessary. Plus, they both have jumpers capable of spreading out a defense, and that's one of D-Will's primary assets. DW在太阳的阵容里也没啥吸引力,他们已经有Morris兄弟了,这两个人基本上也是不三不 四。他们也有三分能力拉开防守,这点也是DW的卖点。 Minnesota would need to sweeten this deal in order to make it happen, but it's not worth them including anything else since Shabazz should still be available at No. 9. 这样的话灰狼可能就得配上一些小菜让太阳舒服一点,不过这样的话就有点划不来了。反 正Shabazz用九号签是有可能捡到的。 Other Options 其他的操作 While the Minnesota Timberwolves technically have more than the four options presented in the previous slides, those four make far more sense than any others. 从前面的内容来看,灰狼大概有四个可能交易对象。 Sure, the Wolves could target the No. 1 overall pick and attempt to pry it away from the Cleveland Cavaliers. But why exactly would Cleveland want that? 当然灰狼也可以找骑士换状元签。不过期是干麽这样搞? Remember, the Cavs could trade that selection for Kevin Love, but Joe Kotoch of SheridanHoops.com believes that still wouldn't be enough. According to his speculation, Minnesota would also have to include picks No. 9 and No. 26, as well as a 2014 first-rounder, in order to make it work. 乳摸说骑士想要Love,但是SheridanHoops.com的Joe Kotoch也有表示,这灰狼出的绝对不 够。从他的消息来说,灰狼得打包九号签、二十六号签,和2014的一轮签。(屁拉!) The drop-off from that package to Derrick Williams and the No. 9 pick is rather significant. Significant enough to prevent anything from happening, in fact. 所以呢,DW加九号签这包裹应该很清楚了。很清楚地,绝对不到骑士队的标准。 If you move in the opposite direction and start analyzing the sixth, seventh and eighth overall picks, there isn't enough motivation for the Timberwolves to make a deal. 不过如果要去换六到八号签,其实这几只签选不到灰狼真正想要的球员。 Why would they give up Williams just to shift up a few spots in the draft and grab a player they could likely have at No. 9? 这样的话干麽丢掉DW去换一个签位的升级,结果却签下一个和九号签差不多的新秀呢? That just doesn't make much sense. 这绝对很奇怪呀。 Unfortunately for Minnesota, the options are rather limited. Based on this overview, the Wolves are going to stay put, improve the package or make a trade with either the Charlotte Bobcats or Orlando Magic. 灰狼队的选项不多。所以灰狼可能得再摆一些东西上桌,才能要山猫或魔术点头。 Smart money is on the first option. 当然啦,省吃俭用精打细算绝对是灰狼的第一选项。 -- 青梅竹马(Mysterious stranger) 当你获得这个技能时,你将会得到青梅竹马更多的关注。青梅竹马会在冒险中随时出现 助你一臂之力,业务范围包括:叫床、做便当、扑杀魔王。不过他们不会代替你的炮友 。 摘录自「异尘余生2 Restoration Project XP」 出包王者特别版 特徵 (Traits)一节 --



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1F:推 force2:一直有种DW去其他队会被成功养起来的预感 06/05 09:27
※ 编辑: kawo 来自: 220.137.9.158 (06/05 14:22)
2F:推 innominate:DW潜力绝对没问题,再给他一点时间吧 06/05 15:36
3F:→ innominate:我认为他这季的进步是有目共睹的,没耐心的话之後会很呕 06/05 15:36
4F:推 yyjack:进步了~但你觉得他是3号吗? 我是不这样认为 06/08 00:38
5F:→ kawo:有人看好有人不看好罗 像WES离开灰狼也很不错呀 这我们这里 06/08 00:47
6F:→ kawo:完全无能 到了太阳倒是有些长起来了 球员得到发展空间 不过 06/08 00:48
7F:→ kawo:母队没赚到啥就是XD 看来至少DW要被交易也能给我们一些赚头 06/08 00:49
8F:→ kawo:赢球可以解决很多问题 输球时每个球员都可以被挑毛病 06/08 00:53
9F:→ yyjack:Wes并没有太大的改变 也许你该去看看他的进阶数据 06/08 02:05
10F:→ yyjack:还是命中路偏低的跳投机器 其他啥都不能做 06/08 02:05
11F:→ yyjack:BTW DW的问题跟输球一点关系都无 至少你自己的文章说出 06/08 02:08
12F:→ yyjack:他的表现就是在联盟平均值以下 关於他的讨论我後来都懒得多 06/08 02:09
13F:→ yyjack:说了 这两年总觉得跟部分人是在平行时空看他打球一样 06/08 02:10
14F:→ kawo:有时候我也常常觉得我看到的Love和其他人眼中的Love根本是 06/08 04:06
15F:→ kawo:平行时空的两个Love呀 这点其实真的不用太在意XD 06/08 04:07
16F:→ kawo:WES就我的感觉 已经比在我们这的最後一年有进步一些了 06/08 04:08
17F:→ kawo:DW整季是在联盟平均之下 但是2.3月的他我想是能给人点希望的 06/08 04:09
18F:→ tiberian:DW本来就是会有表现的即战力 但是LOVE没受伤的状况下... 06/08 15:39
19F:→ tiberian:他要有表现很困难啊= = 06/08 15:40
20F:→ tiberian:他打PF的活动力配合Rubio档拆是有一定潜力的 打SF缺乏 06/08 15:44
21F:推 tiberian:外围突破能力 他的Finish不错但要他自己带球进去创造这 06/08 15:47
22F:→ tiberian:样的机会有点困难 只有快攻和接应传球後稳定些但他仍然 06/08 15:49
23F:→ tiberian:十分依赖身体素质 这也让人质疑他的招式可能会不太够用 06/08 15:50
24F:→ tiberian:现况就是他需要做为禁区球员来加速成长 06/08 15:54
25F:→ tiberian:灰狼这方面LOVE卡位卡的太厉害 他得有像当初Gomes在C's的 06/08 15:58
26F:→ tiberian:那种机会 我们能给他的磨练其实不多 06/08 16:00
27F:→ tiberian:Jeff Green也是这样慢慢成长上来 06/08 16:02
28F:→ tiberian:另一种可能性是他的外线有突破性的成长 06/08 16:07
29F:→ tiberian:这样才有可能转往三号发展 06/08 16:13
30F:推 jinshenn:DW真的很依赖Rubio 关键还是他能否转三号 球季後段有进步 06/10 01:01
31F:→ jinshenn:应该是信心上的提升 打三号的技巧还有很长的路要走 06/10 01:03
32F:→ jinshenn:老实说 下一季如果Love保持健康 DW势必要被埋在板凳上 06/10 01:07
33F:→ jinshenn:少少的上场时间 对他的养成和球队两方 都不是件好事 06/10 01:09
34F:→ yyjack:跟第一年比 3号技巧是有进步了 但同楼上~还有一大段路要走 06/10 04:08
35F:→ sato111:要走快点,快要换约了呀XD 06/10 20:21
36F:→ kawo:不给那位置的时间又要人家走快点 我看快点走比较实在XD 06/10 20:30
37F:推 duke7814:等cost down换新约後再走快一点也不迟 齁齁 06/10 23:01







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