作者hvariables (雷奥纳多)
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标题Re: [问题] 问个翻译的问题
时间Thu Sep 1 03:14:55 2005
※ 引述《nightshift ()》之铭言:
: ※ 引述《hvariables (雷奥纳多)》之铭言:
: : 标题: [问题] 问个翻译的问题
: : 时间: Tue Aug 30 10:28:03 2005
: : He is cerebral, holding experience at arm's length.
: Could you offer more context?
: : 他很理智 用手臂的长度来拥抱经验
: : 请问一下 这样翻有没有问题呢?
: 我跑去问人,可是没有上下文,很难判断.
: 目前为止没有确切答案.
: 可是,egghead与yongchou还有您的看法(指下面的推文)似乎很接近答案.
: : 推 egghead:and keeping whathe can on his own from others
: 对了,这句是不是有typos?
: : 推 hvariables:thanks!!那翻成用和别人保持距离的方法来吸收 61.229.29.248 08/30
: : → hvariables:经验 应该可以吧? 61.229.29.248 08/30
: : 推 yongchou:跟EQ比较有关,不像是吸收经验(拒人千里之外) 218.165.140.227 08/30
: : → yongchou:东西方的度量衡还差真多 218.165.140.227 08/30
: : 推 yongchou:好像弄错,"经验"换成"某人"才是我说的 218.165.129.252 08/30
: : 推 yongchou:摸蛤但不洗裤, 218.165.129.252 08/30
: 可是这句我看不懂.
: : 推 solarjeff:敝帚自珍
: 似乎应该不是敝帚自珍....:)
: : 推 nightshift:solarjeff,你是说holding experience at 220.141.236.35 08/30
: : → nightshift:arm's length是敝帚自珍吗? 220.141.236.35 08/30
: : 推 solarjeff:嗯嗯,我认为可以这样解读:D , 不好意思献丑了 210.202.56.116 08/30
The Five with a Four-wing:"The Iconoclast"
The traits of the Five and those of the Four reinforce each other in many
ways, Both Five and Four are withdrawn types: they turn to the inner world
of their imagination to defend their egos and to reinforce their sense of
self. They both feel that something essential in themselves must be found
before they can live their lives completely. Fives lack the confidence to
act, and Fours lack a strong, stable sense of identity. Thus, Fives with a
Four-wing have difficulty connecting with others and staying grounded. People
of this subtype are more emotional and introverted than Fives with a Six-wing,
although paradoxically, they tend to be more sociable than the other subtype.
As a result to their Four component, they are also more interested in the
personal and intrapsychic. The two types also have some significant
differences in their approach. Fives are cerebral, holding experience at arm's
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length, while Fours internalize everything to intensify their feelings.
^^^^^^
Despite these difference--or because of them-- these two personality types
make one of the richest subtypes, combining possibilities for outstanding
artistic as well as intellectual achievement. Noteworthy examples of this
subtype include Albert Einstein, Werner Heisenberg, Friedrich Nietzsche,
Georgia O’Keefe, John Cage, John Lennon, K. D. Lang, Laurie Anderson,
James Joyce, Emily Dickinson, Stanley Kubrick, David Lynch, Buster Keaton,
Gary Larson, Stephen King, Tim Burton, Clive Barker, Franz Kafka, Umberto Eco,
Jean-Paul Sartre, Oriana Fallaci, Glenn Gould, Peter Serkin, Hannah Arendt,
Kurt Cobain, Vincent van Gogh.
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不好意思 因为这本书的理论蛮复杂的 所以当初我没把全文打出来
简单的说 这本书是关於Enneagram的理论 主张人的性格可分成9大类型
其中第5型的性格是 理智 喜爱分析 追根究柢的人
第4型的性格则是 情绪化 自我放纵 唯美的个人主义者
第5型为主第4型为辅结合成的类型 叫做 Five with a Four-wing
因此我觉得 holding experience at arm's length的意思
应该是用和人保持距离 第三者的角度来吸收经验
多谢大家给我的宝贵意见啦!!
如果你们想进一步了解Enneagram的理论
可以参考下列网站
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/
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2F:→ Adonais:应该是指广泛的经验,与人的关系仅是其中之一 61.229.123.133 09/01
3F:→ Adonais:再讲下去就是和自己保持距离→抽离...:p 61.229.123.133 09/01
4F:推 Adonais:且不建议用第三者来解释 61.229.123.133 09/01
5F:推 hvariables:和经验保持距离 听起来似乎觉得怪怪的 @@ 61.229.33.146 09/01
6F:推 nightshift:这个context如果早点拿出来就好了...:) 220.141.227.44 09/01
7F:推 hvariables:拍谢..因为这个理论解释起来很麻烦 所以一开 61.229.31.75 09/01
8F:→ hvariables:始没有打出全文 61.229.31.75 09/01
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